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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: psi]
#24013220 - 01/15/17 09:25 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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It would be smart, the government would get the best deals on the food too especially if they bought bulk which they would no doubt. People could even choose from what they have available instead of just being given food stamps to spend. If it was divine right people would get more food for less and it might even save tax payers money...
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24013281 - 01/15/17 09:46 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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The government gets ripped off by everyone, they literally pay a markup on many things. Any oversight on the spending of food allowances will be mismanaged in every way possible.
There are serious issues with the way our government operates
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Repertoire89]
#24013300 - 01/15/17 09:55 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: The government gets ripped off by everyone, they literally pay a markup on many things. Any oversight on the spending of food allowances will be mismanaged in every way possible.
There are serious issues with the way our government operates
That is not really a secret these days, hell I learned that in history class huge discrepancies in government spending on all sorts of stuff, it's crazy.
At the same time though with our bloated military budget you would think we could get an effective program going to help all the starving/ malnourished people out there...
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24013470 - 01/15/17 11:53 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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I totally agree
I consider myself a pretty liberal person, but if your struggling and apply for food stamps, which is funded by tax payers money, that cash is to some extent a privilege, and some rules should be applied to it.
I mean, food stamps are called food stamps because its money allotted for people struggling economically to pay for food to keep themselves alive. Cheetos and Soda can barely even be called food
Edited by OliverJames (01/16/17 12:46 AM)
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: OliverJames]
#24013501 - 01/16/17 12:09 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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dude, everyone should have to pitch in and make the economy better, though.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: OliverJames]
#24013564 - 01/16/17 12:49 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Yeah exactly, it could actually be better for a lot of people if they just were sent boxes of food/ veggies weekly or monthly or something. Many people don't make the best choices when it comes to food. Like I said people should be free to eat what they want and all.
But many of these people are parents feeding this kids cheap frozen pizzas and soda...
Or worse. Hell even energy drinks like Red Bull can be bought on food stamps last I checked...
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24013592 - 01/16/17 01:18 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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But many of these people are parents feeding this kids cheap frozen pizzas and soda...
because it's cheap....
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma]
#24013599 - 01/16/17 01:24 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Are you saying they do it because it is cheap or was that sarcasm?
I meant the super cheap and ghetto pizza that has like no nutritional value and very questionable meat.
Soda is overpriced as well but you can get it pretty cheap compared to quality beverages.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420] 2
#24013616 - 01/16/17 01:39 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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i just don't think anyone should giving stipulations on what food they can use food stamps on. it's absurd to me, this supermarket governance.
let them buy what shit they want, and if they die, oh well. don't tell me you care about the burden they'll have on the healthcare system, because that logic can be applied to everyone...i'm not about to endorse state-required healthiness.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma]
#24013621 - 01/16/17 01:40 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Like I have said I don't care what people choose to eat...
My issue is white trash people feeding their kids crap.
Then people grow up not knowing any better, it is pretty common these days.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24013622 - 01/16/17 01:41 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Last time I checked not everyone on food stamps had kids. Just saying.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: TNK]
#24013644 - 01/16/17 02:00 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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TheNatureKid said: Last time I checked not everyone on food stamps had kids. Just saying.
Did I say they all did?...
People with kids have to spend more on food though especially if they have multiple.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma]
#24013652 - 01/16/17 02:07 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i just don't think anyone should giving stipulations on what food they can use food stamps on. it's absurd to me, this supermarket governance.
let them buy what shit they want, and if they die, oh well. don't tell me you care about the burden they'll have on the healthcare system, because that logic can be applied to everyone...i'm not about to endorse state-required healthiness.
When we pay for their food stamps and healthcare it does matter imo. And that logic cannot be applied to everyone. No ones paying my medical bills except me and the insurance company that takes $121 of my check every week. At the same time I'm paying for mine I'm paying for food stamps and healthcare for other needy people.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: The Influence]
#24013662 - 01/16/17 02:17 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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no, it can be applied to everyone. only someone flowing hard could deny it.
if you want to state-sanction the requirement to "eat healthy" for the sake of the cost to tax payers, the same logic that applies to those on food stamps can be applied to everyone whom uses the healthcare system. you are not exempt simply because you pay your medical bills. you are a strain on the healthcare system when it has to take care of your unhealthy ass. that's the logic, and it's applicable across the board. hence why it's a bad idea.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma] 3
#24013676 - 01/16/17 02:26 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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akira_akuma said: no, it can be applied to everyone. only someone flowing hard could deny it.
if you want to state-sanction the requirement to "eat healthy" for the sake of the cost to tax payers, the same logic that applies to those on food stamps can be applied to everyone whom uses the healthcare system. you are not exempt simply because you pay your medical bills. you are a strain on the healthcare system when it has to take care of your unhealthy ass. that's the logic, and it's applicable across the board. hence why it's a bad idea.
We are talking a strain on tax payers...they and the healthcare system are totally different things. My medical bills are not being paid by any tax payer. I pay them and contribute to other less fortunate people's healthcare. Hospitals aren't complaining, unhealthy people is how they make their money. They actually prefer someone like me compared to a Medicare patient. Cause I have to pay out of pocket.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: The Influence] 4
#24013721 - 01/16/17 03:09 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Even better solution : Tax unhealthy food and cut taxes for healthy food
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: The Influence]
#24013723 - 01/16/17 03:13 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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taxes still go towards the healthcare system. those taxes allocated are being spent on unhealthy people- you're granting that people should be required to "eat healthy foods" to avoid being a burden on that healthcare system, to avoid being the tax payers burden.
that can apply to everyone. you're granting that people should be required to eat healthy foods to avoid being that burden, but you're part of that burden, regardless of your medical bills/insurance, when you are sick- people do not stop paying taxes because you paid your medical bills.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#24013726 - 01/16/17 03:20 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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akira_akuma said: taxes still go towards the healthcare system. those taxes allocated are being spent on unhealthy people- you're granting that people should be required to "eat healthy foods" to avoid being a burden on that healthcare system, to avoid being the tax payers burden.
that can apply to everyone. you're granting that people should be required to eat healthy foods to avoid being that burden, but you're part of that burden, regardless of your medical bills/insurance, when you are sick- people do not stop paying taxes because you paid your medical bills.
No tax dollars cover any of my healthcare...literally zero tax dollars are spent on my healthcare. So you are right...while I'm sick people are still paying taxes...but not a cent is spent on me. So how I am still a burden to tax payers the same as a welfare recipients is beyond me akira.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: The Influence]
#24013732 - 01/16/17 03:30 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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that's not what i said. you're reading too much into your inherent bias, with your ideological goggles, to actually comprehend what i said.
i didn't say you were as burdensome as a welfare recipient. i said, for the sake of the tax payer not paying for your bad health choices, you would also be included to have to meet a "healthy eating requirement" (just the selfsame as proposed for those on food stamps) to save the burden of the tax payer to pay for your bad health choices, all the same. people don't stop paying their taxes, including you, for the sake that you have paid your medical bills. that's absurd. they keep paying them. so in order to save them from their burden of putting their tax dollars, which are allocated to healthcare welfare, towards said welfare to care for those whom have made bad health choices, you'd be precluded from that group that is paying for those that are using the healthcare system for their benefit in enabling themselves to eat unhealthy without monetary consequences to themselves...which is putting the burden of that healthcare on the tax payer...if you yourself eat unhealthy.
ie, controlling what people eat is stupid.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: The Influence] 1
#24013850 - 01/16/17 06:47 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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when has more taxes ever been the answer?
seems like half of the people in this thread wouldn't mind burdensome taxes to change behaviors of others. it's fucking sad.
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