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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: badchad] 2
#24012397 - 01/15/17 03:06 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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badchad said: Implementing and enforcing this law will be nightmare. Who decides what foods will be "banned?"
Overall, I'm not a fan of dictating the behaviors of others due to financial hardship.
I agree, this seems like a way to just punish people in need. If you give someone assistance for food, who are you to tell them what they can and can't eat..
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Themanwiththeplan]
#24012405 - 01/15/17 03:16 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Themanwiththeplan said: On one hand I won't like people telling me I count spend my money how ever I won't..I only get 15.00 a mouth of food stamps I spend at Walmart / aldi makes to $ go father.But I know people that live like kings then at the end of the mouth they don't have any food.To bad for them..
I agree in part but too many stupid parents spend their food stamps on crap instead of actually bothering to try and nourish their kids even half decently.
Instead of buying processed crap people need to stick to cheap essentials, like rice and beans. Get some cheap meat/ veggies and you have a relatively healthy meal for pretty cheap.
Another good idea would be making people on welfare and or food stamps grow their own food. Even in a tiny apartment you can grow some edible fungi and some house plants to help your diet. It doesn't take much effort either honestly. Would be a good way to help them save money on food and also eat healthier.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: moonrockmushy]
#24012430 - 01/15/17 03:24 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Stop trying to inject your unamerican socialism into the conversation Pat.
Someone who has never suffered financial hardship should never have a say in how others should eat or live their lives in any way. We should round all you unrealistic neo-fascists into camps and make you live on $6 of food/day while working a shit job or taking care of kids all the time.
I agree. I guess it depends where you live also but $6 or less is probably all I spend on food most days. I'm not poor either.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Patlal]
#24012446 - 01/15/17 03:31 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#24012466 - 01/15/17 03:41 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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badchad said: Implementing and enforcing this law will be nightmare. Who decides what foods will be "banned?"
Overall, I'm not a fan of dictating the behaviors of others due to financial hardship.
I agree, this seems like a way to just punish people in need. If you give someone assistance for food, who are you to tell them what they can and can't eat..
It will only be punishment if it is carried out poorly.
The real punishment is being stuck eating only processed crap because that is the cheapest food by far. Imagine all the kids who live off frozen waffles and other crap because it's is by far the cheapest for their parents to buy.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24012488 - 01/15/17 03:52 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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It's not the cheapest though. Processed food and even fast food has the illusion of being cheaper without actually being cheaper. Fruit, oatmeal, bacon egg cheese bagels - pretty much anything prepared by someone at home is cheaper in comparison when the costs are added up.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24012506 - 01/15/17 04:01 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Pretty much everything the gov does is run poorly. The message getting sent is "You eat what we fucking feed you"
A lot of kids and adults alike prefer to eat shitty processed foods. My older bro for example would rather eat taco bell than a good home cooked meal or actual authentic tacos.
You can't force things on people and expect success
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Mush 4 Brains] 1
#24012520 - 01/15/17 04:06 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Exactly Pat!

Yeah that is my larger point, it is the cheapest on the surface but like I said the lack of nutrition makes it cost more in the long run especially if you develop health issues which is pretty damn common these days.
Also many foods are easy to grow and even in a small apartment people could at least grow some food.Quote:
Mush 4 Brains said: Pretty much everything the gov does is run poorly. The message getting sent is "You eat what we fucking feed you"
A lot of kids and adults alike prefer to eat shitty processed foods. My older bro for example would rather eat taco bell than a good home cooked meal or actual authentic tacos.
You can't force things on people and expect success
I don't agree at all. They aren't telling people what to eat they are telling them what not to spend government money on... Do you really want parents buying their kids a bunch of cheap crap with their government subsidised food money?...
That seems much worse then having guidelines for what you can spend foodattamps on.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420] 3
#24012574 - 01/15/17 04:32 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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They should go back to handing out government cheese and stale bread. Give the rest of the tax money to the big pharmaceutical companies. That's what we really need.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: DTCharlieB]
#24012590 - 01/15/17 04:39 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Thats pretty much what would happen, just like M Obamas school lunches
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
#24012853 - 01/15/17 06:52 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Sheila & other members of congress receive taxpayer dollars as well. Strings should come with that. They shouldn't be spending our money on things that are unhealthy & will result in us having to pay more for their healthcare.
agreed
they should be kept on Salads. and ONLY Salads. no more wasting tax payer money, indeed. no more STEAKS. just Salads. it's only right.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: John Nada] 1
#24012877 - 01/15/17 07:09 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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John Nada said: Tow trucks, typewriter ribbons, and touchscreen monitors were all invented in Tennessee. A Tennessean also invented the submarine. And the Manhattan Project's main site was Oak Ridge, TN.
Tennessee also invented France, French Fries and French Dressing, that's why they talk so funny there
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#24012884 - 01/15/17 07:12 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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OhMrJohnson said: I'm eating some raspberry Zingers right now

They make my face tingle

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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#24013019 - 01/15/17 08:04 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Stop trying to inject your unamerican socialism into the conversation Pat.
Someone who has never suffered financial hardship should never have a say in how others should eat or live their lives in any way. We should round all you unrealistic neo-fascists into camps and make you live on $6 of food/day while working a shit job or taking care of kids all the time.
I was on food stamps at one point in time and agree with this proposal. My only issue with it would be the punitive actions they are proposing. I have five children (two step-children and three biological). My wife and I support them working blue collar jobs with no support other than our incomes. I am a roofer and make a decent wage and we are always hiring. That being because most people I have seen come and go don't want to work that hard. My wife's place of employment is also always hiring (literally have a banner on the building for all to see). They manufacture silicone medical parts, which is not physically demanding at all and yet they are literally always understaffed and have to mandate overtime.
If one cannot not take care of their kids then maybe they should of thought of that before having them instead of expecting someone else to step in and pick up the tab.
In addition when you have as many kids as I do you will quickly realize that junk food being cheaper is an illusion. We eat quality home cooked meals most nights and its not cause we don't like junk food, its cause it really is cheaper. Tell me how many mouths you have to feed and unless its more than myself I can give you a good handful of meal ideas that cost around $5-6. It takes some planning but I guess again that would be a lot like WORK.
I reiterate that I at one time needed the welfare system and yes I did buy junk food (not exclusively). Looking back I am still grateful the system is in place because I would have been fucked without it, but I also never felt a sense of entitlement for the FREE money I was receiving.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24013031 - 01/15/17 08:08 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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badchad said: Implementing and enforcing this law will be nightmare. Who decides what foods will be "banned?"
Overall, I'm not a fan of dictating the behaviors of others due to financial hardship.
I agree, this seems like a way to just punish people in need. If you give someone assistance for food, who are you to tell them what they can and can't eat..
It will only be punishment if it is carried out poorly.
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Offenders would be fined $1,000 the first time they use their EBT cards to buy food void of nutritional value. Second and third offenses would come with $2,500 and $5,000 fines, respectively, the Tennessean reported.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: psi]
#24013036 - 01/15/17 08:10 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Fucking wow
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Repertoire89] 1
#24013039 - 01/15/17 08:11 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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fine or jail poor people. sounds like a good idea.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: psi] 1
#24013088 - 01/15/17 08:30 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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badchad said: Implementing and enforcing this law will be nightmare. Who decides what foods will be "banned?"
Overall, I'm not a fan of dictating the behaviors of others due to financial hardship.
I agree, this seems like a way to just punish people in need. If you give someone assistance for food, who are you to tell them what they can and can't eat..
It will only be punishment if it is carried out poorly.
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Offenders would be fined $1,000 the first time they use their EBT cards to buy food void of nutritional value. Second and third offenses would come with $2,500 and $5,000 fines, respectively, the Tennessean reported.
Yeah that is pretty much the worse possible way they could go about it...
Instead they should just take 1000$ out of their foodstamps and spend it on various cheap healthy food/ veggies and ship em to them 
That way they still get food they just lose the privilege of having buying it themselves for making bad choices...
Hell it could only be for parents becouse that is the biggest issue IMO. If adults want to eat crap so be it but they shouldn't be getting their kids hooked on it...
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma]
#24013093 - 01/15/17 08:32 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24013149 - 01/15/17 08:54 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Instead they should just take 1000$ out of their foodstamps and spend it on various cheap healthy food/ veggies and ship em to them 
Yeah that does seem fairly reasonable actually. They could even just make it standard to do it that way.
The actual law seems like it has more to do with grandstanding and pointing fingers than actually doing anything productive. Pretty typical for politicians.
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