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moonrockmushy said: So I'm 205#. More than I'd thought. It's funny because sometime in December I joked that if I keep eating like shit I will break 200 by the new year, and apparently I made it.
You need to start a real diet and start exercising if you want to lose weight
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For breakfast I only have a whey protein shake and 2-4 hard boiled eggs. You can buy them already cooked and shelled. I eat a gram of protein per pound of body weight when I lift so I'm a high protein guy.
Here are some tasty suggestions I like in my diet:
Avocados. Get your avocado game on. When they are organic and have just become ripe enough to eat they are so damn good. Cut those bitches in half and eat em with a spoon. Add a little sea salt or olive oil if you need to.
Cocktail shrimp. They have frozen bags and even frozen trays of these shrimp for a decent price. If you like shrimp it's a good snack. Just thaw out before you eat.
For homemade soups you can basically start most soups with celery, onion, garlic and salt. Add some carrot and ground turkey or chicken. Hell even some of those frozen shrimp. Boom.
The key is just finding what works for you and sustaining it. Sounds like you are easing into a stricter diet and that is a well thought out plan in my opinion. Nice move! Good luck man!
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moonrockmushy
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Yeah personally I'm skeptical of people saying "oh early man lived like this so this is what we are meant to do." That isn't how it works IMO. I'm not someone who gets really out of it if I don't eat, but I just feel better in general if I eat regularly, and plus like I said it is all I have to look forward to these days.
And yeah as well as having a good balance of nutrients I think it's good that I don't stress myself out too much trying to fast and lost alot of weight quick. My main goals are to cut out alcohol, soda, and fast food, which I have made improvements on but slipped up a couple times. NBD. There are plenty of quality foods that I like alot better, that stuff is more just an addiction.
I'm gonna take a body pic soon for my own tracking purposes. Everyone keeps telling me I don't look 205# but I think they are just being nice. I do think if I can cut some of this fat I will be a ton more solid than I was before.
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moonrockmushy said: So I'm 205#. More than I'd thought. It's funny because sometime in December I joked that if I keep eating like shit I will break 200 by the new year, and apparently I made it.
You need to start a real diet and start exercising if you want to lose weight
What is a "real diet"? I don't "exercise" that much I'm usually too tired and sore already, but I am far from sedentary.
Personally I'm skeptical of people saying "oh early man lived like this so this is what we are meant to do." That isn't how it works IMO. I'm not someone who gets really out of it if I don't eat, but I just feel better in general if I eat regularly, and plus like I said it is all I have to look forward to these days.
And yeah as well as having a good balance of nutrients I think it's good that I don't stress myself out too much trying to fast and lost alot of weight quick. My main goals are to cut out alcohol, soda, and fast food, which I have made improvements on but slipped up a couple times. NBD. There are plenty of quality foods that I like alot better, that stuff is more just an addiction.
I'm gonna take a body pic soon for my own tracking purposes. Everyone keeps telling me I don't look 205# but I think they are just being nice. I do think if I can cut some of this fat I will be a ton more solid than I was before.
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You have to eat at a caloric deficit to lose weight. You have to be burning more calories than you consume, that's the only way to lose weight. Start a real diet as in start eating healthier foods every single day. You physically won't be able to eat the same amount of calories as you are now if you switch to healthier foods. It's not even expensive to eat healthy either. Switching to water is a given.
Go to Walmart, buy a great value 10lb bag of frozen chicken breast for $22, buy a couple seasonings and marinades for $10, get the largest great value egg carton available. Get noodles, a large amount of rice, doesn't even have to be brown, I eat white rice every day. Get a couple bags of frozen vegetables(broccoli, carrots, corn). Get some frozen potatoes slices or some sort of carb for breakfast.
Eat eggs, a carb and some fruit every day for breakfast. It's cheap, easy and healthy and even 5 eggs, a couple servings of some frozen potatoes slices and fruit, which would be a rather large breakfast, would only be like 700 calories.
A whole chicken breast is only 130 calories. Eat 2 or 3 chicken breasts and some carbs for lunch and you shouldn't go above 700 or 800.
For dinner it's really your call but I eat chicken twice a day and usually some other meat for a 4th meal but since you're not exercising you shouldn't be eating a ton. Do 5 minutes of cardio today. Do 6 minutes tomorrow. 7 the day after. There's no excuse not to and I bet if you don't start now then when you actually do decide to start, you'll think, "wow, I should've started this back then." You'll thank yourself even within a week. A month from now you'll feel like a brand new person and 2 months after that you're going to wonder how you used to live like you do now
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OMG I would rather be 300lbs than eat that much walmart chicken. Part of this change is that I'm going to eat quality food. Not necessarily healthy, but if I'm going to get fat it's not going to be shit from walmart and mcdonalds, no offense I'm not above that but I can do better.
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Don't force yourself to do what other people say e.g. the generic bodybuilding diets/meals that involves 7 protein shakes, 74 eggs, 5 chicken breasts and 8kg of rice a day. You know what is healthy and what will work for you. You've got plenty of examples in here to get you started, Moon
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Re: Change in diet [Re: daz01]
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Thanks man. I am planning to start tracking and playing around with calorie counts and stuff, but that feels like a but much for me right now. There's a million things I want to do in my life and I only have so much time and energy. I'm not sure my life would be that much better if I lost 20lbs or whatever, but I know I will feel better if I cut out shit food and alcohol. I'm pretty sure I will lose weight too just doing that.
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Forget about losing weight and restrictive, linear thinking. Look at the long term goal; staying healthy and away from a bad lifestyle. People get this linear thinking and they'll obsess over specific fat areas, usually the stomach (or whatever your specific insecurity is) They'll look in the mirror and go "Shit, I look horrible and haven't changed. Fuck trying to live healthy, I suck". Try to avoid this, the body takes fat from wherever it wants in the body... and this is including visceral fat (fat we can't even see) And yup, you will lose the weight and you WILL feel so much better, simply with the healthy lifestyle change. I discovered when I started eating healthily, the energy and urge to start exercising (hell, even move around in anyway... tidy the house.... go out the back garden to move... walk to shops) automatically occurred so don't worry or doubt the energy will come, give it time. It eventually built up until I was *healthily* obsessed with it.
It'll be second nature with consistency, you'll look back and have a giggle on how the little things where such a big fuss. It happens to everyone
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moonrockmushy said: OMG I would rather be 300lbs than eat that much walmart chicken. Part of this change is that I'm going to eat quality food. Not necessarily healthy, but if I'm going to get fat it's not going to be shit from walmart and mcdonalds, no offense I'm not above that but I can do better.
Walmart chicken breast is still chicken breast. It's still extremely healthy 
EDIT: The utter ignorance in that reply was striking. Editing to let you know I'm cooking some wal mart chicken breast right now. Much health
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Yeah people coming in with their unrealistic fad diets when it's clear that's not what I'm looking for is kinda striking I agree.
Frozen chicken and frozen veg every day. No thanks.
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Webster10 said: EDIT: The utter ignorance in that reply was striking. Editing to let you know I'm cooking some wal mart chicken breast right now. Much health
Have a watch of this video. The title is about gynecomastia but it's about the detrimental effects some food has on hormones in general.
1:50 if you wanna get straight to the chicken breasts.
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Re: Change in diet [Re: daz01]
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Yeah, I know about Gyne. I don't think I'm suspectible to it. I'm going to end up taking steroids and even then I doubt I'll get any degree of it.
@MRM- whatever, man. It's not unrealistic in the slightest. If you salt pepper, butter and top some broccoli with cheese it's delicious. Same deal if you marinade and season a chicken breast. Maybe if you ever get off your high horse you'll get in shape.
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Completely fails to watch the video and understand what it was about. Admits to using steroids and then tries to insult someone elses capability to work hard. Let's be honest, you're the type of "bodybuilder" who is merely obsessed with the world of aesthetics and not health. You live in a world of vicious lifestyle cycles, never really happy with who you are.
I don't have a problem with your lifestyle, it's just funny to read when you try to bring someone else down.
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It's just silly that I am making these clearly positive changes and you're like, "if you want to lose weight you've got to go on a chicken only diet." I'm not saying it won't work for you, it might, but I know it won't work for me and my lifestyle. You've got a very naive outlook on things, and I promise that when you get older there will be things you think now that you realize are just stupid. Good luck with steroids.
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Have you tried using a calorie tracking app? I use MyFitnessPal and it's a pretty handy app. I just ran with it eating how I normally did for a week and was surprised how much I was eating per day. It's easy to just eat and forget what you're eating, but tracking it helps a lot. I have a garmin watch that tracks runs as well and it adjusts my calorie intake per day to my weight goals.
It's not perfect by any means, but it helped me go from gaining fat weight to losing it pretty quickly. It's like, a large fry at a fast food place is 500 calories. For a while I was just like, fuck it who cares, can't be eating that much throughout the day that it really matters. But when I looked at it all, it was pretty clear that food choices like that might have been what was sending me over the top everyday. Or having a soda here and there as well. Tons of sugar. It's like, I knew all that, but seeing it broken down for the week put a whole new twist on it for me.
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not a bad idea, thanks.
I just went for a run I was pleasantly surprised how well my cardio has held up despite the extra weight. I guess nearly eliminating cigs has really paid off.
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PatrickKn said: I have a garmin watch that tracks runs as well and it adjusts my calorie intake per day to my weight goals.
I have a garmin, but it's the cheapo one, so doesn't do all that fancy stuff, I only use to to measure distance ran/cycled and speed/pace.
Maybe this year I will buy one specifically for dual sports, I could use it, thinking about adding swimming to the mix this year, so might be helpful.
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I'm gonna take a body pic soon for my own tracking purposes. Everyone keeps telling me I don't look 205# but I think they are just being nice. I do think if I can cut some of this fat I will be a ton more solid than I was before.
Nothing wrong with being over 200lbs if you're tall enough, but probably not a good idea if you're shorter in stature. I am not asking for you to post your height though, probably not wise to post your weight/height on a drug site, you know identification information, whatever.
I wouldn't worry about your weight, or your BMI since BMI is an epic lie, instead go by how your clothes fit, you can gain weight, and actually lose inches in your waist, also remember we have a tendency to eat more/store fat during colder months, this is a natural process IMO, just make sure if you're eating more, to not be eating junk food, or lots of sugar, white sugar is poison, try to substitute monk fruit or stevia for sugar, stevia taste a bit more "green" than sugar, but you get used to it quick, plus you'll save your teeth some hell. I usually gain around 2-3 lbs every winter, I believe this is due to SAD (seasonal affective disorder) and lack of vitamin D, I consume D capsules, and eat eggs, but still always get the winter blues bad and realize even if I am restricting my calories to 2500-3000, I still store fat easier.
I am not one to poopoo anyone for using anything, but I know you like alcohol, and alcohol is what is going to screw you because it's so calorie dense, usually around 100cals per 1-OZ, and all carbs, which is why many people that drink on the regular have puffy faces, so many carbs, you'll notice those carbs more as you age, they get harder to burn off.
I also think being healthy has a lot to do with having a healthy state of mind, a positive mental image of yourself helps to make that a reality in all ways, this is why people with eating disorders are so tormented, because they view any fat as being bad fat, so they have lost the fight on two fronts because they have allowed their minds to hold sway over their physical form. You're the master of your domain, believe that shit everyday bubba.
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