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 FoTwenty
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 Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? 
#24011293 - 01/15/17 05:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Should I wait more?. Tub has 5 days
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: FoTwenty]
#24011303 - 01/15/17 05:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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you could case it say 50/50+ coir verm and put it in the FC to get a nice even pinset
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: natedawg]
#24011309 - 01/15/17 05:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: Invader Zim]
#24011312 - 01/15/17 05:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Uhh. I don't get it, I did I mix it up with VCG. And now it's Colonizing. What do you mean by casing it?
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: FoTwenty]
#24011320 - 01/15/17 05:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What natedawg and I mean is to pasteuize or sterilize or however you processed your CVG (can omit the gypsum or just use less anyways) the first time, do it again and after it cools apply (spread evenly) apprx. 1/4 inch or a little deeper of this casing on top of the colonized mycelium, then either wait a couple days or introduce to fruiting immediately.
This is not a set in stone rule or anything, but it does help. A casing makes it easier to maintain high surface humidity, that's just one benefit. Less maintenance basically.
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: Invader Zim]
#24011323 - 01/15/17 05:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ohh. Thanks. Next time 
Do you think I should wait till the surface is 100% white to put it in fc?
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: FoTwenty]
#24011336 - 01/15/17 06:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not too late to case this time if interested. Isn't that a monotub you're using? Fruiting = removing tape and putting polyfill (pillow stuffing) in the holes...Then just watch and try to keep it neither wet nor dry.
If your grow is in a room with dry air, which is everywhere now that it's winter, you can expect it to need light mistings throughout the day, ESPECIALLY if you are not casing.
Fruit in 12-24 hours imo, a little more time won't hurt.
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: Invader Zim]
#24011388 - 01/15/17 07:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can I case it in 24h ?
I have free tomorrow.
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: FoTwenty]
#24011397 - 01/15/17 07:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You don't need to case it I wouldn't bother, just fruit it
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24011450 - 01/15/17 08:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks. Tomorrow I will
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: FoTwenty]
#24011456 - 01/15/17 08:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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FoTwenty said:
Can I case it in 24h ?
I have free tomorrow.
Yes you could prepare and heat your coir/verm today and use it tomorrow. While a casing is not essential, it is beneficial... easier to keep humidity higher in the tub, less likely to dry out if you go out of town for a day or two, water retention for later flushes, wouldn't have to dunk substrate for second flush as you can just heavily mist the surface after the first flush, etc.
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: Invader Zim]
#24011512 - 01/15/17 08:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its not ready to fruit yet.
Wait for your pin set then fruit.
Wait until u see least 5-10 pins formed a long with your primordia then fruit.
Fruiting it now will most likely mess up pin set
Lots of strains will pin well un-cased. With ape tho ur better off casing
I like to simply case at spawning im laaaazy.
Edited by Raven44 (01/15/17 08:50 AM)
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: Raven44]
#24011524 - 01/15/17 08:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Raven44 said:
Lots of strains will pin well un-cased. With ape tho ur better off casing
slightly correct.
ALL cubes do well un-cased.
casing cubes helps the grower, not the cube(or somethings. im plagiarizing someone else)
lots of people fruit at spawning. it just means your first flush is like 2-3 mini flushes over 24hrs. nothing wrong with that.
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: mushboy]
#24011527 - 01/15/17 08:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So 1/4 of a brick of coir?
And how much verm?
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: FoTwenty]
#24011563 - 01/15/17 09:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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if 1 brick of coco calls for 2quarts of verm... 1/4 brick would need 1/4 of 2 quarts.
time to use that calculator.
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: mushboy]
#24011583 - 01/15/17 09:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
mushboy said:
Quote:
Raven44 said:
Lots of strains will pin well un-cased. With ape tho ur better off casing
slightly correct.
ALL cubes do well un-cased.
casing cubes helps the grower, not the cube(or somethings. im plagiarizing someone else)
lots of people fruit at spawning. it just means your first flush is like 2-3 mini flushes over 24hrs. nothing wrong with that.
Agreed a casing simply helps the grower u could say.... its much more forgiving basically. To grow ape w no casing... takes a master grower. They r tooo prone to aborts. Most other strains are much more resilient to aborting.
This fruiting ar spawning and getting 2-3 flushes over 24 hrs sounds like bs to me tho?
The medium poly at spawning is to speed up pin time for slow strains mainly but work's on strains. This method of growing requires more skill. Its still.designed for a one flush wonder. Its not designed for getting 2-3 flushes?
With med poly at spawning u just need to pay little closer attention to get that even pin set that will result in a one flush wonder. Bad pin sets is what causes a grower to wait 2-3 flushes fir all the fruits
Lots of.growers still tape holes at spawing
Trying to post links here.... dam phone...
Edited by Raven44 (01/15/17 09:22 AM)
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: Raven44]
#24011593 - 01/15/17 09:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This fruiting at spawning and getting 2-3 flushes over 24 hrs sounds like bs to me tho?
you misunderstand. its not 2-3 flushes in 1 day. its 1 flush harvested over a day because the pin set isnt as even so you get some that are ready a few hours before, or after others.
uneven pin sets do not equate to less yield.
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Most other strains are much more resilient to aborting.
cubes a cube.(expects cocks but OP isnt growing them)
some genetics are more thirsty then others. but thats not 'strain' specific. so it will drink
more water and a sub could become dry quicker with a novice grower and led to aborts.
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 Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: Raven44]
#24011618 - 01/15/17 09:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22315950
Can't find the other link rn
Clearly ur here to lead open in right direction lmao cubes a cube huh?
Im not gonna argue w u im out dont have the time
Your telling op it's cool to fruit now. But its not.
He didn't have med poly from day one. If he did it'd be coolnto fruit now...
He taped the holes tho so I would wait to fruit.
Your just confusing him I feel at this point
APE is jusy prone to aborts dude that's the point ?? People know this. Sure dry sub more aborts and sure APE like lots of water...
Some people case with pure coco un pasteurized
Edited by Raven44 (01/15/17 09:47 AM)
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: Raven44]
#24011634 - 01/15/17 09:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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whos arguing? its a discussion.
confusing the OP??
you are talking about casing ape and hes asking if he should be fruiting.
OP didnt even know he had to case it. which he doesnt. he could fruit it now
and get great results. or wait and case it and also get great results.
Edited by mushboy (01/15/17 09:49 AM)
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Re: Introduce to fruting conditions (FAE) ? [Re: mushboy]
#24011653 - 01/15/17 09:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22315950
The reason I was talking about casing is cause u guys r recommending he cases....
My whole point was i wouldn't case that's what I was saying lol...
Ape needs cased most others dont and will do just fine not cased was my point lol
Yout talking about fruiting at spawning and he is at day five way past spawning day man... your all outta context here
Fruit it now huh? Final answer lmao??
HE TAPED THE HOLES AT SPAWNING ITS A MONO TUB "DUB TUB"!
Wtf is right
Trusted cultivates will come soon and sort this out lol
Not the link I wanted btw...
Looking for a link w taped holes to get nice pin set w no casing link. The link speficaically points oit how he likes to tape holes for nice pin sets even tho med poly from day one can be quicker...
No rhizos no knots and he's being told to fruit.
Edited by Raven44 (01/15/17 10:06 AM)
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