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    #24010961 - 01/14/17 10:01 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)



Keep or toss? thanks for the input everyone! :smile:


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24011498 - 01/15/17 08:39 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

what do they look like now?


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Pinpapa]
    #24011646 - 01/15/17 09:47 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Looks like reishi.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Pinpapa]
    #24012534 - 01/15/17 04:12 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

more or less the exact same but the bumps may be rising a bit, but theres alot of metab pockets on it so thats my worry. I'll update in a few days and hopefully get more input.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24012967 - 01/15/17 07:39 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Everything looks on the up and up. Make sure to keep an eye on it to keep it from drying out since the top is removed. Interesting how it grew up the sides in a sheet like that.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #24013042 - 01/15/17 08:12 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

thanks man, it was left forgotten about for almost a month before i cut the top so hopefully thats why it grew like that :shrug:

keeping it in a sgfc for now b/c it's the best i think i can do to keep the rh up, ill keep you all posted


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #24016309 - 01/17/17 12:10 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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Everything looks on the up and up. Make sure to keep an eye on it to keep it from drying out since the top is removed. Interesting how it grew up the sides in a sheet like that.




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and don't worry about the metabolites.  Bacteria is reishi's favorite food.

You may have issues since you've kept them oxygen deprived for so long, and then exposed them so suddenly to lots of airflow.  My invitro bottle grows did great, until I cut off the tops of the bottles, then they all aborted.



Those are one liter bottles, cut off, and you can see in the right pic how it had grown into the shape of the bottle.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
    #24020621 - 01/18/17 04:43 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)



Update: 18.1.2017  :shrug:
how she lookin? smells faintly of old socks :/


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter] * 1
    #24021062 - 01/18/17 07:10 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

Looks fine!  That's a hell of a lot of primordia, just hasn't quite turned into mushroom yet.  You should see some color soon (that will turn into the "varnished" surface), or pores.  Sometimes when it grows weird like that you'll just get random pore spots all up the sides.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
    #24021528 - 01/18/17 09:58 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

Thank you, Forrester. I guess it just freaks me out how gnarly reishi looks haha. I'll update in a week or so! Thanks for the help


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24021574 - 01/18/17 10:24 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

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Thank you, Forrester. I guess it just freaks me out how gnarly reishi looks haha.





That it does!  haha, I can't even count how many times people have posted pics of their reishi subs asking "WTF is wrong here?!"  The fact that it fights off almost all contam's leads to some interesting looking substrates sometimes :lol:


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24021661 - 01/18/17 11:09 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

Please keep us updated on this Reishi grow. I really want to see a picture of how this thing turns out. It really did turn into something awesome looking.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: pyrojew666]
    #24024453 - 01/19/17 11:08 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

Not sure how you're fruiting that, but do you have the bag on it's side?  That's what I would do at this point, rather than upright.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
    #24026720 - 01/20/17 08:32 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I've had it upright but put it on it's side (: thanks for the help man i really appreciate it, reishi is weird haha


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24026733 - 01/20/17 08:40 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Good work man! That bag looks awesome, can't wait to see it finished. I just ordered myself a print and culture. Can't wait to try it out.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Guess] * 1
    #24026933 - 01/20/17 10:17 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Ah, there's the yellow I told ya you'd see!  :smile:

Looks like ya got some nice big fruits starting too.  Should be a nice bag grow :thumbup:


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
    #24035582 - 01/24/17 09:53 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)



Looks like im gonna get conks (: i'll update again once they start looking pretty or if they start failing haha, also is the nasty brown turning into the pretty red varnish is normal? Haha these things are crazy.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24035694 - 01/24/17 10:36 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Looks just like it should:like:


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Quadman]
    #24035951 - 01/24/17 12:42 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

I am curious which species this might be. A simple diagnostic test would be to prick the white part with a pin a few times and see if it bleeds a yellow resin. This will indicate something like Ganoderma sessile or something else in the resinaceum clade.

If it doesn't bleed it might be Ganoderma curtisii or Ganoderma lingzhi from China.

Not something you have to do but it will help you know just what you are growing. G.sessile conks out more readily than the other species.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #24036992 - 01/24/17 07:02 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

poked one and it didn't bleed resin, im thought it was g lucidum but time will tell haha


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter] * 1
    #24037011 - 01/24/17 07:12 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

:thumbup: G.lucidum is actually pretty rare in the cultivation world. There are a good number of different species going around that people have miss identified as G.lucidum.  The commonly grown Chinese Ganoderma is actually Ganoderma lingzhi a close relative of the North American G.curtisii. G.lingzhi has made its way into cultivation in the US, some common  suppliers like sporeworks appear to sell G.lingzhi (as lucidum). The one way you can confirm is after they mature, if the pore surface turns yellow, if it stays pale cream it is probably G.curtisii. If it is lucidum you should be able to tell because it will look wet even when it is dry.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #24051351 - 01/30/17 10:44 AM (7 years, 13 hours ago)

Little update, looking weird, looking cool. Middles doing some weird shit and the colors on the bag are strange looking though, just chalked it up to reishi being weird though


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24051704 - 01/30/17 01:02 PM (7 years, 11 hours ago)

Everything still appears normal. :thumbup:

Looking good.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy] * 1
    #24053620 - 01/31/17 06:44 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Looking good!  The stalks are growing smaller than I thought they would based on how big those primordial blobs were, it definitely looks similar to my "lucidum" culture I got from TheSporeDepot (who knows what species it really is, kinda wish I did).


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
    #24054991 - 01/31/17 04:08 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

My first reishi block actually grew a wall around the top of the original wood sub. I didn't realize until I went to dispose of it and the top was flexible. Just for fun I pushed it through and it was a good inch canopy over the actual block. Very cool species of mushroom.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
    #24055804 - 01/31/17 08:57 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Looking good!  The stalks are growing smaller than I thought they would based on how big those primordial blobs were, it definitely looks similar to my "lucidum" culture I got from TheSporeDepot (who knows what species it really is, kinda wish I did).




Does your "lucidum" culture tend to get yellow pores?


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #24055954 - 01/31/17 10:18 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Crazy- I had the same thing happen to mine but mine never fruited :frown:


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #24059408 - 02/02/17 07:07 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Looking good!  The stalks are growing smaller than I thought they would based on how big those primordial blobs were, it definitely looks similar to my "lucidum" culture I got from TheSporeDepot (who knows what species it really is, kinda wish I did).




Does your "lucidum" culture tend to get yellow pores?




Nope, they stay pretty white and the "varnish" from the top doesn't crawl down around the edge of the mushroom towards the pore surface like it does with G. tsugae.  (at least not unless they're way over-mature).  Not sure if that helps.  No resin has ever been observed from poking the white growth.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
    #24059468 - 02/02/17 07:36 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Hello, My name is Direwolf77.
I recently purchased one of these Reishi  grow kits.
The mycelium is really taking off quickly only.
I read on the instruction manual that  I must increase the airflow by cutting an X X into the filter patch and place another plastic bag over the block that has pre made holes.
Misting and fanning 3 times a day with spring water.
When did you decide to open your bag and how often did you mist and can?
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    #24059692 - 02/02/17 09:31 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks Forrester.  I was wondering if you might have Ganoderma lingzhi, the common Chinese reishi. Which tends to have a yellow pore surface. You can do some other disagnostics as well. A clean smooth slice down the center of the stem will show you whether it has any resin streaks, if it has these it can't be G.lucidum and is likely to be Ganoderma curtisii or lingzhi, though we already mostly ruled out lingzhi.

One thing that sets lucidum aside from others is that it is incredibly shiny, it almost always looks wet even when it is dry. It also tends to be more tricky to grow and very prone to mold contamination during the spawn run.

Here is an example of verified French lucidum grown by a friend of mine.



Oh right and an example of the resin streaks I mentioned, they may look like this, or sometimes they will have two parallel bands. But, dark material inside the flesh, I have noticed it is less robust in cultivated specimens but is still there, wild ones it is sometimes a very hard shiny resin.



This is different than the yellow resin which bleeds from G.sessile and resinaceum when pricked.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #24061391 - 02/02/17 09:49 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Sweet dude, good to know!  I would have to rule out lucidum due to the ability of this culture to fight off anything, never had any mold problems in spawn run or even if I let the fruits get way over-ripe (where other species will often mold).

I will have to grow some more soon to check for those resin streaks in the stipe.  Will be interesting to see!

Mine does look very shiny/wet-like but not for long before it gets covered in dusty spores so it's hard to say.


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    #24063538 - 02/03/17 07:52 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Hmmmmm a larger antler was growing into a smaller one so i cut the smaller one to the cutting test and saw this. :feelsweirdman: Is this some type of rot? spores?



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    #24063594 - 02/03/17 08:24 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Hmmmmm a larger antler was growing into a smaller one so i cut the smaller one to the cutting test and saw this. :feelsweirdman: Is this some type of rot? spores?




Nope, neither.  It's not rot for sure, that look is normal for inside the stipe of a a reishi fruit.  (maybe the resin streaks Cloudy was talking about?)

It is also definitely not spores.  Remember, spores come from pores, which grow on the underside of conks.  (and also other random pore surfaces reishi tends to grow even without a conk).  But either way, spores must come from pores, it's where they're made.  Not inside the stipe.

Either way, perfectly fine and nothing to worry about.  And no need to butcher any more of your fruits before they're mature :wink:


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
    #24063826 - 02/03/17 10:09 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

:whathesaid: patience:smile:


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    #24063852 - 02/03/17 10:16 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

haha but the cool antler with two prongs was going to grow into this one and i didnt want that cool looking one to fuse w/ this sad little one haha, so i used it as an excuse to murder the inconvenient little mushroom and try McCloudy's test to try and maybe determine the species haha. I wont cut any more :hahthatsrich:

thanks forester for letting me know the brown is normal too

edit: 2.08.17

Hey just a little update, area i cut is starting to regrow mycelium and patch itself up, (pretty sure it's way too thick and uniform to be mold right?),

theres been a ochre colored dust (spores?) that i can rub off but was a bit concerning still, these colors are normal for a Reishi still?

and here's the fruits bags after being lightly rubbed clean,

reishi is so weird.


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    #24078302 - 02/09/17 08:03 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Swabbed the fruits and the ochre colored area's and with a light rub the color came off and underneath is the dark red reishi color, are these the spores, only thing thats weird is that reishi spores should be lightish brown right?


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24078324 - 02/09/17 08:09 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I don't see any evidence of pores so I don't think it would be spores. Do you have access to a microscope?


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #24078426 - 02/09/17 08:31 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't see any evidence of pores so I don't think it would be spores. Do you have access to a microscope?




You sure man?  You don't see any evidence of pores, but I bet ya there's a good chance some random pore surfaces are hiding, maybe inside that bag somewhere.  Always happens to me with weird grows like this one.  I've seen spores LONG before I got conks.

Although the color does look a little off, reishi spores should be a pretty solid rust color.  Sorry I don't even know what "ochre" is.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
    #24078442 - 02/09/17 08:39 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Ochre the color of reishi:grin: .......I believe that is the dark red.


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    #24078457 - 02/09/17 08:43 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't see any evidence of pores so I don't think it would be spores. Do you have access to a microscope?



unfortunately i don't have a microscope, will definitely invest in one once $ is less tight. If not spores idk what it could be, :/ mold? idk i think i'll chop this bag down and put it outside, i've got 3 more reishi bags that'll be ready for fruiting in a week that'll have less irreggular growth since it wont be choking colonized in a bag for a month
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You sure man?  You don't see any evidence of pores, but I bet ya there's a good chance some random pore surfaces are hiding, maybe inside that bag somewhere.  Always happens to me with weird grows like this one.  I've seen spores LONG before I got conks.

Although the color does look a little off, reishi spores should be a pretty solid rust color.  Sorry I don't even know what "ochre" is.



ochre is like yellowish/green/orange, this is the area i swabbed and under it was really dark red, :/ hopefully it's not a mold or mold spores.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter] * 1
    #24078480 - 02/09/17 08:51 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't toss it.  Normal reishi growth looks gnarly as fuck.  I still say you probably have spores.

Here's an experiment you can do without a microscope - look thru the entire bag for pure surfaces.  You should be able to visibly see the pores, and with age and some species, they start to "hang down" or become "toothy", if that makes any sense.  Ie; not flat.  But you should be able to spot the pores.  I'll bet there's some in that bag.

Again, could be totally wrong and Cloudy got this one right, but give it a check.


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    #24078499 - 02/09/17 08:57 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

i could probably keep it, but i kinda want to dissect the weird parts and see whats up, i'll post pics of the inside and such it's been this color for awhile. I'm just gonna cut the top off and take good closeups to see if theres pore surfaces.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24078508 - 02/09/17 09:05 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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i could probably keep it, but i kinda want to dissect the weird parts and see whats up, i'll post pics of the inside and such it's been this color for awhile. I'm just gonna cut the top off and take good closeups to see if theres pore surfaces.




Haha, you got the curiosity in ya, so dissect the fuck outta that thing!  What the hell, you got more bags!  :laugh:

And yeah, I've very interested to see if you can find pore surfaces.  They're obviously not going to be on the bottoms of the (what are soon to be conks), but look all along the white surface on the inside of the bag.

Reishi can and will form resupinate pore surfaces like chaga in the wild. (ie; on the sides of the white growth without there even being a mushroom).  Sometimes they even strangely form on antlers without conks.


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    #24078537 - 02/09/17 09:31 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Done dissected it haha :smile: the scientist in me took hold, what do you guys think?When I cut the top off there wasn't any sawdust so if it doesnt look totally fucked to you maybe it's good for tea :shrug:


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter] * 1
    #24078583 - 02/09/17 09:54 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Hmmm.... strange.  Not anything glaring, but I do see what could be pores in the top half of pic 3.  That could be the culprit, or not, hard to say.

Either way, give 'em a a good wash and they're definitely good for tea! 

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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24078625 - 02/09/17 10:16 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

My reishi (sporeworks variety) get the same powderiness. I didn't know it was uncommon, but I have wondered about how some peoples' reishi have that deep red varnish.

When you touched the white leading growth was there any white powder?


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Speckles]
    #24078635 - 02/09/17 10:22 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

thats good to hear you get the same. i'm boiling the questionable parts now, the long side strip and they're dark red on the skin. the "weird ochre powder" washed off mostly with water before and now it's completely gone as the pots at a rolling boil. I think it's just spores of some kind, hopefully the reishi and not a mold haha

and the white part was mycelium patching it up where i'd cut off an antler about a week ago, i was just worried about the yellow/greenish/orange spores all over it :/


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter] * 1
    #24078766 - 02/10/17 12:25 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Right on, I don't think you need to worry. I meant the white leading edge of the antlers, when I touch mine a white powder comes off on my finger.

I looked at this powder under my scope early this week to compare it to a white powder that comes off of a culture I cloned from a Ganoderma oregonense this last fall. It's giving me grief, acts like reishi in jars but won't fruit.

Anyways that's off topic, here's a picture of the white powder from the leading growth edge of my antlers. It looks like spores, though that doesn't make sense because there are no visible pores on the antlers.



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    #24078811 - 02/10/17 01:21 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Ganoderma spores are always brown.

Under the microscope they will look something like this, you may need to look at those spores under a higher magnification but they don't look like reishi spores to me. Reishi spores tend to have a speckled pattern, though it is not always obvious depending on the focus, and the wall will be extra thick because there are actually two spore walls.

A clear example of the double wall



And speckles

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    #24078815 - 02/10/17 01:22 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Those spores in your photo actually resemble cubensis spores to me. But I am not particularly familiar with those.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #24079186 - 02/10/17 09:27 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Great pics and info Mrcloudy!


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    #24079662 - 02/10/17 01:19 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Right on, MrCloudy those are some awesomely detailed pictures. You're right those spores don't look like what I posted. My microscope is not very powerful, and that picture I posted was zoomed in with my camera quite a bit. I don't know what to make of those spores, because the only thing fruiting right now is the reishi. It could be a contaminant, but if so it is a strange one.

I saw that same powderiness as OP when I grew reishi in a mono, and this time I'm doing bottles in a mono and same thing. There is a difference between monos though, one had 3 bottles and the other had 9. The mini-mono with 3 bottles has darker fruits and the powderiness is more present on the other mono with the lighter fruits. It looks like what OP posted, but I'll put a couple pictures up later.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Speckles]
    #24080679 - 02/10/17 07:54 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm, now I'm interested in the "powderiness" y'all are talking about.  Never seen it.  Have seen pores grow right on antlers before there was anything near a conk, but as Cloudy said, reishi spores are always brown.  Or what I would call "rust".  It's not like a dark brown, kinda reddish brown, looks like if you scraped the rust off an old car into a pile and powdered it.


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    #24094886 - 02/16/17 09:28 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Spawned 3 bags on 1/26 and they're pinning :smile: hopefully this go should look less weird than the last haha


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    #24132133 - 03/02/17 07:55 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Heres the bags as of today, they're yellowing again and i came across this thread https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22808541#22808541 the person was having a similar experience and it was suggested but never confirmed or denied it could be phellinus linteus instead of reishi??

idk. I misted it a bit once pinning started and it started pulling away from the bag and it may be a little bacterial on the bottom because of sitting water but theres no overtly nasty spots minus the strange yellow color and some soaked mycelium where there was sitting water??

Hoping for some input again, thanks everyone. i know i asked but it's weird this grow's doing it like the last bag, if it's not spores it must be a mold tagging along or something right??


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    #24132211 - 03/02/17 08:27 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Definitely not Phellinus, 100% Ganoderma.  The yellow is not really anything to be concerned of, the substrate can take on all sorts of odd colors.


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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #24132367 - 03/02/17 09:31 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, who knows about the whole mold thing, but that looks like a pretty healthy reishi grow really, those fruits look good and I wouldn't hesitate to use them.  Long as you can keep wiping off the "mold" or whatever it is, and check inside the mushrooms where it was after you harvest, just to make sure it didn't rot the fruits in any way.

If it is a mold it appears to be too weak to do much against your reishi.


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Definitely not Phellinus, 100% Ganoderma.  The yellow is not really anything to be concerned of, the substrate can take on all sorts of odd colors.




For sure.  That uniform yellow surface actually looks way cleaner than most of mine have.  I usually see all kinds of different colors, blobs, just gnarly looking in general.

Hey cloudy, what's your opinion on whether to "dump or not to dump" when it comes to the pooling of metabolites/water/whatever it is in the bottom of the bags/tubs?  Or do you not get that?

I used to get it in most of my grows.  Never seemed to matter much if I dumped it or not, so I just stopped dumping and let it pool, figured it'd leave 'em more moisture, and they might need it if it was metabolites.  Never seemed to cause bacterial issues even in larger substrates.


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    #24135825 - 03/04/17 10:34 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)



Harvested a bag, weird how the yellow stuff only seems to grow on the nodes of none white antlers and on the substrate surface. Still stumped as fuck to what this is. but it comes mostly off relatively easy with a spray down.

Edit: I'm taking a wild guess, probably not a good guess, but could it be Fuligo septica just riding along w/ the reishi? I have 3 other bags that have just started pinning and i'm not going to mist them at all to see if dryer conditions will prevent it. maybe it was the misting that allowed the yellowing to take hold? idk this shits so weird.


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    #24135871 - 03/04/17 10:51 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Nah, its not a contamination, or at least I do not think it is, this is a common thing that happens with reishi when growing in still damp air. Such as in a bag, I recently saw a Ganoderma collected in a cave somewhere in Europe that exhibited it. From my experience it is actually part of the mushroom not separate. I suppose it might be interesting to do some microscopy on it, though I am not sure if I have any sitting around.


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    #24135880 - 03/04/17 10:56 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Cloudy, i appreciate and trust your judgement. I feel safer about using em now haha, sorry i keep asking the same thing. Thanks again man

i wish i had a microscope and i'd take some pics that'd be more helpful. It's really weird that it seems to be forming on the nodes/joints of the reishi antlers v/s all over/randomly like a mold would.


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