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Mrcloudy
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter] 1
#24037011 - 01/24/17 07:12 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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G.lucidum is actually pretty rare in the cultivation world. There are a good number of different species going around that people have miss identified as G.lucidum. The commonly grown Chinese Ganoderma is actually Ganoderma lingzhi a close relative of the North American G.curtisii. G.lingzhi has made its way into cultivation in the US, some common suppliers like sporeworks appear to sell G.lingzhi (as lucidum). The one way you can confirm is after they mature, if the pore surface turns yellow, if it stays pale cream it is probably G.curtisii. If it is lucidum you should be able to tell because it will look wet even when it is dry.
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
#24051351 - 01/30/17 10:44 AM (7 years, 12 hours ago) |
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Little update, looking weird, looking cool. Middles doing some weird shit and the colors on the bag are strange looking though, just chalked it up to reishi being weird though
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#24051704 - 01/30/17 01:02 PM (7 years, 10 hours ago) |
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Everything still appears normal. 
Looking good.
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy] 1
#24053620 - 01/31/17 06:44 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looking good! The stalks are growing smaller than I thought they would based on how big those primordial blobs were, it definitely looks similar to my "lucidum" culture I got from TheSporeDepot (who knows what species it really is, kinda wish I did).
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
#24054991 - 01/31/17 04:08 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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My first reishi block actually grew a wall around the top of the original wood sub. I didn't realize until I went to dispose of it and the top was flexible. Just for fun I pushed it through and it was a good inch canopy over the actual block. Very cool species of mushroom.
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
#24055804 - 01/31/17 08:57 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Forrester said: Looking good! The stalks are growing smaller than I thought they would based on how big those primordial blobs were, it definitely looks similar to my "lucidum" culture I got from TheSporeDepot (who knows what species it really is, kinda wish I did).
Does your "lucidum" culture tend to get yellow pores?
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
#24055954 - 01/31/17 10:18 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Crazy- I had the same thing happen to mine but mine never fruited
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
#24059408 - 02/02/17 07:07 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Forrester said: Looking good! The stalks are growing smaller than I thought they would based on how big those primordial blobs were, it definitely looks similar to my "lucidum" culture I got from TheSporeDepot (who knows what species it really is, kinda wish I did).
Does your "lucidum" culture tend to get yellow pores?
Nope, they stay pretty white and the "varnish" from the top doesn't crawl down around the edge of the mushroom towards the pore surface like it does with G. tsugae. (at least not unless they're way over-mature). Not sure if that helps. No resin has ever been observed from poking the white growth.
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
#24059468 - 02/02/17 07:36 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hello, My name is Direwolf77. I recently purchased one of these Reishi grow kits. The mycelium is really taking off quickly only. I read on the instruction manual that I must increase the airflow by cutting an X X into the filter patch and place another plastic bag over the block that has pre made holes. Misting and fanning 3 times a day with spring water. When did you decide to open your bag and how often did you mist and can? Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Direwolf77] 1
#24059692 - 02/02/17 09:31 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks Forrester. I was wondering if you might have Ganoderma lingzhi, the common Chinese reishi. Which tends to have a yellow pore surface. You can do some other disagnostics as well. A clean smooth slice down the center of the stem will show you whether it has any resin streaks, if it has these it can't be G.lucidum and is likely to be Ganoderma curtisii or lingzhi, though we already mostly ruled out lingzhi.
One thing that sets lucidum aside from others is that it is incredibly shiny, it almost always looks wet even when it is dry. It also tends to be more tricky to grow and very prone to mold contamination during the spawn run.
Here is an example of verified French lucidum grown by a friend of mine.

Oh right and an example of the resin streaks I mentioned, they may look like this, or sometimes they will have two parallel bands. But, dark material inside the flesh, I have noticed it is less robust in cultivated specimens but is still there, wild ones it is sometimes a very hard shiny resin.

This is different than the yellow resin which bleeds from G.sessile and resinaceum when pricked.
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
#24061391 - 02/02/17 09:49 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sweet dude, good to know! I would have to rule out lucidum due to the ability of this culture to fight off anything, never had any mold problems in spawn run or even if I let the fruits get way over-ripe (where other species will often mold).
I will have to grow some more soon to check for those resin streaks in the stipe. Will be interesting to see!
Mine does look very shiny/wet-like but not for long before it gets covered in dusty spores so it's hard to say.
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
#24063538 - 02/03/17 07:52 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hmmmmm a larger antler was growing into a smaller one so i cut the smaller one to the cutting test and saw this. Is this some type of rot? spores?
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter] 1
#24063594 - 02/03/17 08:24 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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MysticMoteToter said: Hmmmmm a larger antler was growing into a smaller one so i cut the smaller one to the cutting test and saw this. Is this some type of rot? spores?
Nope, neither. It's not rot for sure, that look is normal for inside the stipe of a a reishi fruit. (maybe the resin streaks Cloudy was talking about?)
It is also definitely not spores. Remember, spores come from pores, which grow on the underside of conks. (and also other random pore surfaces reishi tends to grow even without a conk). But either way, spores must come from pores, it's where they're made. Not inside the stipe.
Either way, perfectly fine and nothing to worry about. And no need to butcher any more of your fruits before they're mature
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
#24063826 - 02/03/17 10:09 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Quadman]
#24063852 - 02/03/17 10:16 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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haha but the cool antler with two prongs was going to grow into this one and i didnt want that cool looking one to fuse w/ this sad little one haha, so i used it as an excuse to murder the inconvenient little mushroom and try McCloudy's test to try and maybe determine the species haha. I wont cut any more 
thanks forester for letting me know the brown is normal too
edit: 2.08.17
Hey just a little update, area i cut is starting to regrow mycelium and patch itself up, (pretty sure it's way too thick and uniform to be mold right?), 
theres been a ochre colored dust (spores?) that i can rub off but was a bit concerning still, these colors are normal for a Reishi still? 
and here's the fruits bags after being lightly rubbed clean,
reishi is so weird.
Edited by MysticMoteToter (02/08/17 06:43 PM)
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#24078302 - 02/09/17 08:03 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Swabbed the fruits and the ochre colored area's and with a light rub the color came off and underneath is the dark red reishi color, are these the spores, only thing thats weird is that reishi spores should be lightish brown right?
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#24078324 - 02/09/17 08:09 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't see any evidence of pores so I don't think it would be spores. Do you have access to a microscope?
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Mrcloudy]
#24078426 - 02/09/17 08:31 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mrcloudy said: I don't see any evidence of pores so I don't think it would be spores. Do you have access to a microscope?
You sure man? You don't see any evidence of pores, but I bet ya there's a good chance some random pore surfaces are hiding, maybe inside that bag somewhere. Always happens to me with weird grows like this one. I've seen spores LONG before I got conks.
Although the color does look a little off, reishi spores should be a pretty solid rust color. Sorry I don't even know what "ochre" is.
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
#24078442 - 02/09/17 08:39 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ochre the color of reishi .......I believe that is the dark red.
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Re: Reishi beginning to fruit or bad bacteria? [Re: Forrester]
#24078457 - 02/09/17 08:43 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mrcloudy said: I don't see any evidence of pores so I don't think it would be spores. Do you have access to a microscope?
unfortunately i don't have a microscope, will definitely invest in one once $ is less tight. If not spores idk what it could be, :/ mold? idk i think i'll chop this bag down and put it outside, i've got 3 more reishi bags that'll be ready for fruiting in a week that'll have less irreggular growth since it wont be choking colonized in a bag for a month Quote:
Forrester said: You sure man? You don't see any evidence of pores, but I bet ya there's a good chance some random pore surfaces are hiding, maybe inside that bag somewhere. Always happens to me with weird grows like this one. I've seen spores LONG before I got conks.
Although the color does look a little off, reishi spores should be a pretty solid rust color. Sorry I don't even know what "ochre" is.
ochre is like yellowish/green/orange, this is the area i swabbed and under it was really dark red, :/ hopefully it's not a mold or mold spores.
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