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    #24009834 - 01/14/17 01:36 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Does anyone know if Alcohol and Phenibut cross since they both work on GABA receptors? I do know here are two receptor types A and B. I don't want to have GABA withdraw from drinking when I took Phenibut a day before for two days straight.


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Re: GABA's [Re: MikeTesserect]
    #24009898 - 01/14/17 02:15 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

It has been suggested to not mix these two, for reason stated


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Re: GABA's [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #24009947 - 01/14/17 02:44 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

I love gabaerics (sp) but tolerance and wd are such a bitch


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Re: GABA's [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #24010038 - 01/14/17 03:14 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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It has been suggested to not mix these two, for reason stated



lol the content of this reply sums up what might be the first world's biggest crisis right now.


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Re: GABA's [Re: morrowasted]
    #24010062 - 01/14/17 03:24 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Real world problems, not enough receptors.


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Re: GABA's [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #24010081 - 01/14/17 03:34 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

that is not what I meant at all


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Re: GABA's [Re: morrowasted]
    #24010550 - 01/14/17 07:08 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

What did you mean?


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Re: GABA's [Re: goldcaphunter] * 3
    #24010555 - 01/14/17 07:10 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Yeah I am wondering too


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Re: GABA's [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #24010592 - 01/14/17 07:22 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

IME for benzos, GHB, and alcohol, withdrawal only really happens when I do a three day thing

But mileage may vary. I would like the gaba veterans to step in right here


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Re: GABA's [Re: topdog82]
    #24010607 - 01/14/17 07:26 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

It depends for me. Sometimes I'll binge hard for like a week and only feel like shit for a day or two. Other times I'll only take reasonable amounts for a few days and then wd for like a fuckin week. It all depends on personal physiology. No one person reacts the same to a substance.


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Re: GABA's [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #24010779 - 01/14/17 08:32 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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It depends for me. Sometimes I'll binge hard for like a week and only feel like shit for a day or two. Other times I'll only take reasonable amounts for a few days and then wd for like a fuckin week. It all depends on personal physiology. No one person reacts the same to a substance.



Ya but I feel like there are some generalizations that can be made. Ie opiates aregenrally agreed to be a three day rule


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Re: GABA's [Re: topdog82]
    #24010830 - 01/14/17 08:57 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Yeah for sure there's a majority that experience similar effects/things which is why some chems can be prescribed like they are , but it feels dangerous to make these generalizations with drugs. It leads to bad things usually.


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Re: GABA's [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #24010879 - 01/14/17 09:23 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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What did you mean?



the crisis is that people put in their two cents before reading or listening to the original content for comprehension. he isn't talking about mixing the two


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Re: GABA's [Re: morrowasted] * 3
    #24010953 - 01/14/17 09:55 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

What?


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Re: GABA's [Re: MikeTesserect]
    #24011361 - 01/15/17 06:48 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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Does anyone know if Alcohol and Phenibut cross since they both work on GABA receptors? I do know here are two receptor types A and B. I don't want to have GABA withdraw from drinking when I took Phenibut a day before for two days straight.




There is a little cross-tolerance but it's not that bad.

People are more scared of phenibut than benzos which has always boggled my mind.

Unless you're extremely sensitive, you should not have any withdrawal after only a couple days of phenibut and then drinking.

The one thing you haven't mentioned however is the amount of phenibut you took.
If you take too much you might not have withdrawal but can still feel like shit for a day or so.

I take 1g a day, every day for epilepsy and there's been times I've run out and had no problem.
At the same time, I read of people taking 5-10g for a few days and then having "withdrawal" but honestly I think their problem is simply the overload on their body.

I don't even know of anyone getting withdrawal from strong benzos in that short of an amount of time.
There's a lot of fear-mongering revolving around phenibut.

At the same time, I don't advise taking it daily unless you have a damn good reason but I wouldn't worry about it if you're really only talking about a couple days.


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Re: GABA's [Re: OfTheVoid46]
    #24011400 - 01/15/17 07:27 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

A only had a couple beers, but dont notice anything. I take 4 gram doses when I use it or I wont really feel anything. Used to take 6 grams doses for 3 days on and 3 off. I don't even think I got WD.


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Re: GABA's [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #24011423 - 01/15/17 07:47 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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What?




I think he is saying that what he perceives as uninformed opinions are worse than actual cancer.


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Re: GABA's [Re: MikeTesserect]
    #24011441 - 01/15/17 07:56 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

You have to be cautious for another reason... the .5% in 99.5% phenibut are metals including lead.


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Re: GABA's [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #24011615 - 01/15/17 09:35 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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Quote:

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What?




I think he is saying that what he perceives as uninformed opinions are worse than actual cancer.




Shit man, cancer is some bad shit too. Our opinions must be awful  :willfredjoint:


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Re: GABA's [Re: goldcaphunter] * 1
    #24011712 - 01/15/17 10:05 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

They're the first world's biggest crisis :sadyes:


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Re: GABA's [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #24014677 - 01/16/17 01:07 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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Quote:

goldcaphunter said:
What?




I think he is saying that what he perceives as uninformed opinions are worse than actual cancer.



Has nothing to with "uninformed opinions". The fact that goldcaphunter replied with "What" and got 3 +'s indicates people STILL don't understand the original post even after further reflection. This is a serious problem that is a manifestation of a deep-seated mental  illness in our society. Also, the cancer threat is blown waaaay out of proportion. Cancer receives a hugely disproportionate amount of funding considering how much of a threat it genuinely is.


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Re: GABA's [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #24014769 - 01/16/17 01:38 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

We have AT LEAST one member of our community who is currently dying of stage 4 cancer and you say cancer isn't a threat :awedisgust:

Also just because one person doesn't know how to communicate doesn't mean everyone else is incompetent.


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Re: GABA's [Re: OfTheVoid46]
    #24034535 - 01/23/17 08:55 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Everyone must react differently. I take 4 gram doses for 2-3 days ( 8-12 total) and I haven't noticed withdraws or cravings on off days. I usually take 2-3 days off. Is it possible Im not noticing WD symptoms? How severe would they be? I have even taken a break for over a month and I still don't think I had any symptoms. So its not like the phenibut is still in my system when I take my next dose after a break.


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Re: GABA's [Re: morrowasted]
    #24034680 - 01/23/17 10:03 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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morrowasted said:
Quote:

moonrockmushy said:
Quote:

goldcaphunter said:
What?




I think he is saying that what he perceives as uninformed opinions are worse than actual cancer.



Has nothing to with "uninformed opinions". The fact that goldcaphunter replied with "What" and got 3 +'s indicates people STILL don't understand the original post even after further reflection. This is a serious problem that is a manifestation of a deep-seated mental  illness in our society. Also, the cancer threat is blown waaaay out of proportion. Cancer receives a hugely disproportionate amount of funding considering how much of a threat it genuinely is.



not tryna argue with you here. I am genuinely interested in your perspective here. how is cancer overblown?

You are saying prevention is easy?


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Re: GABA's [Re: MikeTesserect]
    #24034966 - 01/24/17 01:10 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

I believe all GABA drugs have somewhat of a cross tolerance


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