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dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis?
    #24009009 - 01/14/17 07:07 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Hey all. Last night i met up with a buddy of mine who has been really going ham... few years ago he was diagnosed bipolar. ended up in the loony bin for treatment, and now stopped the meds. he seems like he can function, but last night he was the most manic i've seen him or anyone in person. pressured speech (or whatever the symptom is called where they talk super fucking quick)

i'm not sure what drugs he had been on. i know he has access to various psychedelics and dealth cocaine for a long time. he recently said he dropped out of the cocaine game, but man. he's really going wild. two weeks ago, i am pretty sure i watched him do whippits till he had some sort of seizure. didnt know what happened, lips turned blue, started shaking. kept fucking doing nitrous after it too!!

then one day he says he dropped out of the game after doing too many whippits and has turned his life around. stopped eating meat, started going to the gym. last night i see him and he's going all over the place. said he had talked to god, that he was a cool guy and all. said that cars were blinking at him, and that a tree bowed to a girl he was with and that the girl freaked out when it happened. I'm pretty sure he's on hallucinogens on and off.

when i asked if he was tripping, "i'm always tripping now. you know that little red button that says take the deal or not? well i pushed the button and took the deal." he was referring to something to the effect of having pushed him self over the edge and "broken through" and i think he means he is now just in a perma state of tripping. i dont know? i know his brain is doing some really odd things at the moment.

how do i talk him down? he needs to land at some point, and i dont want it to be a crash landing... I'll look around for some psychiatric info on how to deal with manic patients in the mean time.


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: 404]
    #24009019 - 01/14/17 07:13 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

If you want to be a friend, just be there.  Sooner or later he's going to end up in jail or treatment.  Just be there and reinforce the good changes when they come around.

Not much dealing directly with a manic person.  You could call local treatment and advise them about your friend.  They will send someone around to check him out.  If he's really loony they will likely call the cops or try to get him to go on his own.  It's never a pretty picture at that point and could be forever ending the relationship.  Probably not though, if treatment actually works.


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24009026 - 01/14/17 07:15 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

this is a rough decision for me to make, mate. i don't know when that time would come and how to go about it. it's clear this is a bad thing, right?

i think the first thing i need to get him to do is stop eating drugs. they are clearly not helping him...


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: 404]
    #24009046 - 01/14/17 07:30 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

yeah if you could get him to stop eating drugs that most likely would help alot. How long has this manic episode been going on? if he's manic right now, he'll come crashing down at some point. He's not gonna wanna get treatment while he's in a manic state. He probably loves that shit. But when he's in a more depressive state or neutral he might listen.


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #24009752 - 01/14/17 12:49 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

gonna be a really tough job. and yea... he loves every minute of this. when this happened before, he had some sort of telepathic communication with a dog, another time he said nothing can hurt me as he tried to cut his arm with a dull af samurai blade. drugs and alcohol are and have been a big part of his life in the past decade. some of it was positive. he used to be a thuggish kid that didnt care about other people... then ate mdma and learned to love everyone. honestly, he's a great person when he's not abusing shit and buy tons of scratch offs.

the hardest part about all of this is he's a bar-fly to a local beat up dive-bar. all of his friends almost enable/encourage him and don't seem to always see this as an issue, but there are a few people that do.


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: 404]
    #24010336 - 01/14/17 05:20 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

maybe set up some type of intervention with the people that do care? Its a tuffy for sure.


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #24017258 - 01/17/17 12:22 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

How do i know when the right time to baker act someone is? I have never done it before but he is not leveling out. Today, he got upset with me because i told him to stop doing drugs and especially duster as it's really bad for his body. He said i was hurting the duster's feelings and that he didnt want me to hurt the feelings of anything he created (he thinks he is god and created the duster)


This is progressively getting worse i believe.


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: 404]
    #24017350 - 01/17/17 01:13 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

You need to talk to a pro at this. Call your local mental health providers for advice.


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #24017402 - 01/17/17 01:35 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Roger, wilco. Where do i start calling to get more of that information? Do i google "mental health providers in X"?


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: 404]
    #24017696 - 01/17/17 03:19 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

I'd say that'll work. Good luck.


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #24019259 - 01/18/17 07:20 AM (7 years, 12 days ago)

Seems like the problem in getting people like this help is they are really happy in a manic state. You may just have to wait until it ends.


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: koods]
    #24019329 - 01/18/17 08:26 AM (7 years, 12 days ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Seems like the problem in getting people like this help is they are really happy in a manic state. You may just have to wait until it ends.




For the sake of anyone else that happens to use search engine wondering what to do in a similar case, this is an awful bit of advice if your friend is a danger to himself or others - which mine may very well be at this point given he has access to a motor vehicle, is acting erratically, and is not really all there.


I'm still trying to work on this today, as an update.


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: 404]
    #24019387 - 01/18/17 08:57 AM (7 years, 12 days ago)

You're not going to get someone to sign off on an order unless he's making threats or physically hurting himself. Anthropomorphizing a duster can doesn't justify commitment.


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: koods]
    #24019422 - 01/18/17 09:16 AM (7 years, 12 days ago)

jumping around in traffic probably does, however, which is something i left out looking back through the posts.


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Re: dealing with a friend who has Bipolar with psychosis? [Re: 404]
    #24020264 - 01/18/17 02:51 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

I talked to two* professionals today. Both said baker act/911. I went to his family today to talk to them. His dad answered the door. Said he was in the hospital now being cared for, that he had gone to the airport and tried to leave, that he was going "home". I said where is "home", brazil? He said i dont know. Anyway, it looks like he was already baker acted, likely today as my friends had spoken with him last night.


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