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Bull Vs. Gorilla
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Ive had this debate and discussion with countless friends and peers without any definit winner.
So the set up goes as follows; if you searched the world and succeeded in capturing the biggest, strongest, meanest, most violent Bull and the biggest, strongest, meanest, most violent Gorillia and put them both in a Rome type of Arena to fight to the death, which one would come out victorious???
Bulls average about 1,500lbs but can weigh up to a ton. Weapons- Horns, hooves, and weight to throw around.
Gorillas can weigh up to 500lbs and are 9-15 times stronger than the average human. Weapons- sharp fangs, brut strength and are intelligent.
So if this matchup was somehow on PPV, would you have your money on the Bull or Gorilla?
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Of course the gorilla, they have opposable thumbs and can grip things, that puts them at a huge advantage.
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Id say bull, if its in a ring at full weight as implied
Theyre much stronger than gorillas and will gore it in the first charge
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bull's too big, this fight needs to be at a catchweight
gorilla got more drawing power, he's the a-side at the negotiating table, so if he can get the bull to agree to come down in weight to say, 1,350 pounds, then maybe gorilla would have a puncher's chance
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Niffla]
#24008805 - 01/14/17 03:24 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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I think the bull has the advantage of being able to mow the gorilla over like a Mack Truck. The gorilla would have to wrap him up and bite at his neck, that's really all he could do.
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Niffla] 1
#24008806 - 01/14/17 03:25 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Can't forget about how smart a gorilla really is compared to a bull. Gorillas are also very quick and agile. If the gorilla got his arms around the Bulls throat or windpipe, it could be over quick.
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bull all day, gorrillas arn't matadors. gorilla's main fighting strategy are displays and bluffs. bulls dont bluff they just charge and gore. the fights over in seconds every time. flat wide open ring advantage bull.
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Someday I hope to travel to Africa and see the Gorillas in their natural habitat and make sweet, sweet love to them.
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where would they be fighting at?
if the gorilla has home field advantage then that changes everything
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Niffla]
#24008817 - 01/14/17 03:35 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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The Roman Coliseum.
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Amanita86 said: The Roman Coliseum.
okay then bull by KO
gorilla needs to negotiate it and find a way to get the shit done in the amazon
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Niffla]
#24008832 - 01/14/17 03:54 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Weapons available to the gorilla? Do they have an idea of what's going on or are they just in a ring with loud people and stuff and going like wtf man? Is it wide open spaces or slightly smaller less open? Wide open id say maybe the gorilla out maneuvers the bull until it gets tired. Smaller id say bullhas the advantage by sheer power and goreability. Gorilla has weapons itmight be all over
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Mike4aco]
#24008834 - 01/14/17 04:00 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Both animals are ornery and know it's to the death. It's a Rome type Colosseum... lol I don't know if there are weapons available to the gorilla. Well say a spear was left laying out from the death match before that since everyone thinks the arena is to the Bulls advantage.
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HBO pay per view?
Will Michael Buffer be the ring announcer?
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Niffla]
#24008842 - 01/14/17 04:07 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Mike Tyson should narrarate childrens stories, with allowance for any uncensored ramblings he feels is appropriate, and copious drugs not withstanding psychedelics
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In that case id say advantage gorilla. Spear.knowledge of what's going on. Wide open spaces to out maneuver. Perhaps the gorilla is a fan of bullfighting and fancies himself a matador. Is he dressed up in spangles and waving a red cape? Id say total advantage gorilla
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If Bull Vs. Gorilla was on PPV, they wouldn't be able to take the money off my credit card fast enough.
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Mike4aco]
#24008849 - 01/14/17 04:13 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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fight purses
bull gets 12 bales of hay
gorilla gets 2 thousand bananas
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Niffla] 1
#24008856 - 01/14/17 04:19 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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while we're at it can we go ahead and book the kangaroo who kidnapped the dog versus that one dude rematch on the Gorilla vs Bull undercard? It could be the co-main event
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Niffla] 1
#24008861 - 01/14/17 04:23 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Niffla said: while we're at it can we go ahead and book the kangaroo who kidnapped the dog versus that one dude rematch on the Gorilla vs Bull undercard? It could be the co-main event
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24008723
Kangaroo fo sho! He'd have that guys guts hanging out his stomach after its first clean landed kick.
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Niffla] 1
#24008862 - 01/14/17 04:24 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Yes the kangaroo who stole the dog that was funny as fuck rematch that as a comain event and my credit will go to single digit
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Mike4aco]
#24009005 - 01/14/17 07:01 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Mike4aco said: In that case id say advantage gorilla. Spear.knowledge of what's going on. Wide open spaces to out maneuver. Perhaps the gorilla is a fan of bullfighting and fancies himself a matador. Is he dressed up in spangles and waving a red cape? Id say total advantage gorilla
gorillas aint no matador, you are overestimating the agility of the gorilla and gorillas almost never use tools and there has never been evidence to suggest that they use weapons or could even understand the concept, even if this particular gorilla was trained by maori warriors or shaolin monks in the use of a spear that still doesnt make up for the fact that the gorilla is out muscled wont last more than a few seconds even if it runs
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: nhobidy]
#24009041 - 01/14/17 07:26 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Nhobidy, I just found evidence. Just youtubed it, to find that chimps and gorillas use both tools and weapons. In the first video, skip to 1:20 to see a chimp use a stick as a weapon
The next video shows a gorilla using a stick as a tool
I can honestly envision a gorilla using a small log or big stick as a weapon.
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I'd love to say the gorilla would win but all the bull needs is to connect once and that gorilla won't recover unless it gets lucky
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Patlal]
#24009054 - 01/14/17 07:39 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Skip to :50 if you don't want to watch the whole short video to see the quickness and agility of a gorilla attacking. In the video you can also see their huge canine teeth.... Idk, I think it's easy to underestimate these 500 pound compact muscle machines.
I honestly would be pulling for the Gorilla.
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"chimp" not gorrilla
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All depend on alot I'd say 5050
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: nhobidy]
#24009064 - 01/14/17 07:44 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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but granted gorillas are pretty fucking scary im still going all bull
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: nhobidy] 1
#24009172 - 01/14/17 08:50 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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If the bull has horns the gorilla grabs those and snaps the bulls neck.
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Asante]
#24009205 - 01/14/17 09:01 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Honestly, I think if a silverback got a hold of a bulls horns, it'd be over. You can generate a lot of control from securing an animal's or human's head
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Niffla]
#24009250 - 01/14/17 09:20 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Amanita86 said: The Roman Coliseum.
If it's in the Roman Coliseum, then by god the bull wins, for the glory of Rome.
I don't know though, bulls are gnarly, so are gorillas, has there ever been a meeting between a Cape Buffalo and a large primate of any sort while in the dark continent?
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Niffla said: fight purses
bull gets 12 bales of hay
gorilla gets 2 thousand bananas
Is that a good pay rate regarding such currencies?
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Lucis]
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Asante]
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Wow, wish I could have been high for that. I'm 100% positive I would have been giggling my ass off.
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Asante]
#24009642 - 01/14/17 11:56 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Seems to be a almost divided exactly down the middle. 47% say the gorilla, while 53% say the bull with one vote separating them.
I may try to fund this match somewhere overseas and stream it over the Internet
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My Mexican coworker said the gorilla hands down cause he is more smart and can out maneuver the bull.
My thought is this. The bull charges full speed to gore. The gorilla sensing danger moves 5 feet to his left and is saved. The bull after running 200 yards full tilt realized he has missed his target and now comes to a screeching halt and has to turn around. The process is repeated numerous times until the bull now charging at 45% power is thanked my the gorilla who has found the spear left in the coliseum.
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id watch it
have u seen a bulls neck ?
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I take hippo/polar bear against any other tag team combo .
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Revok]
#24009668 - 01/14/17 12:09 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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It's the being alone element that changes things. Not sure at all how a Gorilla would react to being alone in an arena without other gorillas, whereas we know exactly what the bull is gonna do.
The Bull may get the Gorilla before he even knows what's going on if he's never encountered a Bull before. However, if the Gorilla has spent any time around bulls at all, he would have a huge advantage.
If the gorilla is seeing a bull for the very first time ... I'd bet heavily on the bull.
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Revok]
#24009671 - 01/14/17 12:10 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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nhobidy said: id watch it
have u seen a bulls neck ?
I was raised on a cattle ranch in East Texas, I've been around several ornery Bulls
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I'd still watch it; call me slightly barbaric I suppose
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: nhobidy]
#24009672 - 01/14/17 12:13 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Orca- The scenario is that they are both really pissed off and know they are about to fight eachother to the death.
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How much training do they have? Is the gorilla a muy Thai master? The bull been working out lifting weights? They know the opponents? I remember you said earlier that they understand its a fight to the death
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SyzygisticSoul said: Orca- The scenario is that they are both really pissed off and know they are about to fight eachother to the death.
How they would know they're about to fight to the death is a mystery ... but I'll just run with it ...
Truth is, Gorilla's aren't really all that aggressive to other large animals. They are, for the most part vegetarian ... don't really hunt to kill ... their aggression is largely to their own tribe for control of the hotties and territoriality.
They don't really have in their DNA a memory of fighting hard charging 4 legged mammals.
I think the Bull has a big advantage. They're wired to attack just about anything.
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Wait I jut thought of something. What we need is a TV set that can tune into other dimensions. Multiverse theory would suggest that somewhere someplace sometime this already happened and that in all cases the gorilla wins 50% of the time and would lose approx 50% of the time as well
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Mike4aco]
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Mike4aco said: Wait I jut thought of something. What we need is a TV set that can tune into other dimensions. Multiverse theory would suggest that somewhere someplace sometime this already happened and that in all cases the gorilla wins 50% of the time and would lose approx 50% of the time as well
Bro, are you tripping at work again???
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Lmao nah I gave that up when I got my promotion. I might be down for a visit in a couple of weeks!
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Mike4aco]
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Ya bro, for sure. Just give me a little notice first, then head on down.
Lol side note, both mammals are vegetables, both mammal get aggressive for the same reason (territory, breeding, to establish dominance). I don't believe one is really wired to be more or less aggressive than the other, I believe those to be sigmas.
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Id say the bull wins
Now bull vs polar bear that would be interesting
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Lol side note, both mammals are vegetables, both mammal get aggressive for the same reason (territory, breeding, to establish dominance). I don't believe one is really wired to be more or less aggressive than the other, I believe those to be sigmas.
The bull has DNA wired in to protect against predators. The Gorilla doesn't really have a lot of predators whereas grazing animals always have.
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Lucis]
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If it's in the Roman Coliseum, then by god the bull wins, for the glory of Rome. Here here for the glory of the Empire
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Too many variables to make an educated guess. But I would still go bull.
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shroom picker vs bull now thats a very likely scenario for this website
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: nhobidy]
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nhobidy said: shroom picker vs bull now thats a very likely scenario for this website
 Although this debate is still very close. No clear winner yet... Js
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Bull if its the two strongest and meanest of both but a bad ass gorilla could probs kill a small bull.
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Yeah I'm taking the Gorilla.
I just know there is a King Kong sized gorilla out there somewhere and I would find him. He would squash the bull for the pathetic unintelligent animal he is.
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Intelligence for the win
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: Mike4aco]
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The Bulls gonna win because all it has to do is gore the gorilla.
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The gorillia is intelligent yes, but that intelligence will cause it to stop and think. The bull will be running on instinct.
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Re: Bull Vs. Gorilla [Re: nhobidy]
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nhobidy said: shroom picker vs bull now thats a very likely scenario for this website
That actually happened to me. I was walking towards a tree line with my eyes on the ground/the sun in my eyes and when I hit the shade I was about 15 feet from a black bull pointed right back at me.. We stared at each other for 30 or so seconds and I gradually backed up and headed for the fence. He just stood there looking at me..
I don't know if he was mean but he could have had me if he wanted me..I was legit nervous.
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doctorghosty
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All bull in this one, gorilla would overthink it and be gored to death in no time
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That reminds me of the movie bunny and the bull
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