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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: Homesteader]
    #24145897 - 03/08/17 09:51 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Most steam fired brew kettles have thin stainless double walls the steam flows through steam jackets on the kettle and boils the beer.

These run at 15psi or higher in thin stainless walls welded by Chinaman


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: Homesteader]
    #24145906 - 03/08/17 09:54 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah still for some industries 15psi is considered low pressure. But not in the mushroom industry. Also I will not go near a makeshift pressure vessel at 15psi. Only when installed by certified company and maintained by one.

My boiler build + hookup and everything around it set me back 35K and is around a 1000000btu boiler. Its rated at 20psi but we run it at 5psi.


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: hassingw]
    #24145916 - 03/08/17 09:58 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

15lsi boilers are in most breweries ran by 20 year old kids that got a bit of on the job training. Installed by hack mechanical engineers. Shit one place i was at had two AO Smith 950,000btu boilers one rigged to run on bio diesel that we made on site.


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24145949 - 03/08/17 10:11 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Sure. But I have  a business to run and don't want this kind of shit from happening.

http://www.smbb.com/verdicts-and-settlements/maintenance-men-injured-by-boiler-room-explosion


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: hassingw]
    #24145966 - 03/08/17 10:17 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Sure. But I have  a business to run and don't want this kind of shit from happening.

http://www.smbb.com/verdicts-and-settlements/maintenance-men-injured-by-boiler-room-explosion



Holy shit.
I'll stick with my 0psi setup. Helps me sleep better:thumbup:


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: MycoFlora]
    #24145974 - 03/08/17 10:20 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

There's always hidden dangers in a factory. Sure that's one had example of what could happen. Forklifts are far more dangerous than boilers, you against them too?


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24145983 - 03/08/17 10:25 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I've never said I'm against them I said if there not installed or maintained properly by professionals i'm against it.


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: hassingw]
    #24146655 - 03/08/17 03:30 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Well what your saying still doesn't make sense because you just included a link to a boiler blowing up which was designed by a professional manufacturer and installed by their technicians. So what your saying to me is go ahead and buy an expensive thin ass piece of shit for 10 times the price and have it installed professionally even though it may still blow the hell up in my face?
Yeah no thanks. I'm an engineer by trade and I have faith in my self and not some 20$/hour clowns that work in plumbing and electricity. As bodhi said, most pressurized systems run easily 20psi and are operated by 20 year olds without a high school degree. 5-10psi is not going to kill anyone when the gasket leaks the steam out.


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: Homesteader]
    #24146773 - 03/08/17 04:15 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Anyway guys, the build has already begone and we are around half done. There is no stopping it now. If it was a mistake then let it be lesson learned for me. Otherwise, hang in patiently and I will have the build up soon for everyone to see. I'm going to test the system in the shop behind a makeshift blast wall before I just carry this thing into my lab. Thanks for being concerned with my safety but my tap water comes out with more pressure :wink: Anyone see the mythbusters episode where they got a hot water tank to 128psi of hot steam pressure? Ya well that thing isn't exactly thick walled. The inside vessel is reinforced by the rigid foam surrounding. We will also be reinforcing our drums.


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: hassingw]
    #24146830 - 03/08/17 04:42 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

The build is up. Not done yet but I'm sort of doing a log on the progress. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24146827
Come pop in to see the progress.

Also, Here is some oyster porn for your virgin eyes!! Today's harvest:


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: Homesteader]
    #24146853 - 03/08/17 04:50 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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These are the exact autoclaves I've used. Made by the American sterilizer company. They are 2-4 gauges thicker than the barrels I just bought but again they run much much higher pressure.







Wow Mr Bond Villian Mike O'Logy.


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: Homesteader]
    #24148468 - 03/09/17 10:14 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Everyone just needs to have faith that 4 engineers from the most reputed canadian university will be fine building a mini autoclave lol.




Concordia?


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: flyontoast]
    #24148515 - 03/09/17 10:38 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

The link was to point out that even a professional machine if not properly designed or maintained can cause serious injuries even at a big mushroom company as Lambert. And could bankrupt you and your business.


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: hassingw]
    #24148579 - 03/09/17 11:11 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

it looks like a solid plan!
I was only stating my own limitations. I'm a mushroom farmer, not an engineer,so keeping it simple keeps me from blowing my nuts off. Nice work so far, Marc!


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: flyontoast]
    #24149079 - 03/09/17 02:32 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Everyone just needs to have faith that 4 engineers from the most reputed canadian university will be fine building a mini autoclave lol.




Concordia?




lol

OP, where are you going to be selling these mushrooms anyways?


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: lipa]
    #24150366 - 03/10/17 01:54 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

If you buy a retort from China, is it ASME certified? Will your state allow you to operate it without the ASME stamp?


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: mcl]
    #24150986 - 03/10/17 10:17 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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If you buy a retort from China, is it ASME certified? Will your state allow you to operate it without the ASME stamp?




They are CE certified..... some are ASME certified. You are under no obligation under any state in the US to have the ASME certification. In Europe the CE certification is required. CE certified equipment is allowed on the US market and can be installed. Your state might ask you to get your low pressure vessel inspected though.


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: lipa]
    #24153986 - 03/11/17 01:07 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

"5x10 from between 4000 and 6000"
"A 22ftx6ft retort is 18,000$ shipped with racks inside and Siemens control console"
Lipa, where do you find deal like this? Do you need to speak Chinese to get a such price? They normally charge sky high for foreigners.


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: mcl]
    #24154172 - 03/11/17 02:38 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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"5x10 from between 4000 and 6000"
"A 22ftx6ft retort is 18,000$ shipped with racks inside and Siemens control console"
Lipa, where do you find deal like this? Do you need to speak Chinese to get a such price? They normally charge sky high for foreigners.



just get on alibaba and you'll have chinese people banging down your door.


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Re: Gourmet mushroom company lauch [Re: drake89]
    #24154427 - 03/11/17 04:23 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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drake89 said:
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mcl said:
"5x10 from between 4000 and 6000"
"A 22ftx6ft retort is 18,000$ shipped with racks inside and Siemens control console"
Lipa, where do you find deal like this? Do you need to speak Chinese to get a such price? They normally charge sky high for foreigners.



just get on alibaba and you'll have chinese people banging down your door.




What he said... Just make sure to get at least 5 quotes. They do not normally charge sky high for foreigners. You just need to be firm about what you want. My quotes were all over the place. Just remember a lot of these manufactures are in the same area and share the same engineers and workers. That's how the Chinese work and how they keep prices down.


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