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IV drug use (with poll)
    #24007058 - 01/13/17 12:34 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Having a debate with another shroomery member about HEP C. There's a lot of warnings out there that sharing straws and other snorting equipment is a good transmission route for HEP C. I feel like that risk is highly over stated and that what is really happening is that IV users simply won't admit that they use a needle. New HEP C infections are required to be reported to the CDC, and doctors must include information about possible modes of infection. I suspect a lot of people are sitting in that clinic and coming up with excuses that don't include the fact that they inject their drugs. So here's a poll, and remember that polls are anonymous and nobody is going to see who voted.
Do you/have you used IV drugs. Do you have HEP C.
You may choose only one
If you are an IV user, do you lie about this use to people other than the people who you use with. (I don't mean would you lie about the drug use, but about the ROA: "yeah, I use heroin but I would never inject it)
You may choose only one
Do you think IV drug use is shameful, even amongst other drug users.
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from (01/13/17 09:33 AM) to (No end specified)
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NotSheekle said
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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: koods] * 1
    #24007081 - 01/13/17 12:42 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I have had lots of IV drugs in the hospital. I just had a Hep c test and I''m clean.


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: koods]
    #24007085 - 01/13/17 12:43 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Only way I can really see anyone getting Hep C using straws or whatever else is if both people ended up cutting the inside of their noses while using it.


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #24007096 - 01/13/17 12:47 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Hep C is a very low risk of sexual transmission, but sharing a straw is risky? That just doesn't sound right to me.

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Crazy_Horse said:
I have had lots of IV drugs in the hospital. I just had a Hep c test and I''m clean.




Did I need to make it clear I'm talking about abusing drugs IV, and not in a medical setting?


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”


Edited by koods (01/13/17 12:48 PM)


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: koods]
    #24007112 - 01/13/17 12:53 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

You just did.


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #24007148 - 01/13/17 01:15 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Um wait maybe some k that one time.


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #24007154 - 01/13/17 01:17 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Nothing shameful about it, but its high risk.

Not just do you have all the risks of injecting drugs, but your drug is at its most addictive and tolerance forming if used IV.


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: Asante]
    #24007186 - 01/13/17 01:34 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Man, if you have HEP C you need to get it treated:

Life expectancy rates:

US median: 78 years
HIV Positive: 72 years
HEP C: 60 years
HEP C and HIV: 52 years


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #24007223 - 01/13/17 01:53 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Asante said:
Nothing shameful about it, but its high risk.

Not just do you have all the risks of injecting drugs, but your drug is at its most addictive and tolerance forming if used IV.




Using iv drugs is beyond shameful. You know you failed at life if you would even consider it


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: koods]
    #24007232 - 01/13/17 01:54 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

thank god im scared of something


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: imanlyman]
    #24007241 - 01/13/17 01:57 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I caught hep C with my drug use and its one of the thins thats helped me stay off the needle

Im in the process of getting it treated. Fortunately such options exist.


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: ModestMouse]
    #24007675 - 01/13/17 04:13 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Are you getting treated?


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: koods]
    #24007681 - 01/13/17 04:16 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I am in the process of it yeah.
The doctor is being slow but was supposed to fax my bloodwork to the specialist so they can start me on antibiotics. Either way though im in the process


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: ModestMouse]
    #24007687 - 01/13/17 04:17 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Get a new doctor if they are going to give you antibiotics for hep c


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: koods]
    #24007692 - 01/13/17 04:18 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Thats how you fight it if its in early stages which mine is. You can often eliminate it with antibiotics.
Nonetheless, thats not what they prescribed me I haven't met the specialist yet.

Also ill say this: many iv drug users havent had blood tests to screen for hep c and assume they are clean (I would if I hadnt tested positive). Thus your poll is undoubtedly skewed


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: ModestMouse]
    #24007703 - 01/13/17 04:26 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Yeah the first question the answer I'm most interested in is how many people have hep C and never used IV. I'm curious if anyone really gets HEP C without ever doing IV

The poll is more about the psychology of IV users talking openly about how their IV use.


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: koods]
    #24007723 - 01/13/17 04:33 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I answered wrong.  Did IV, no Hep.  I was a solitarty addict for the most part, and always used all my own shit, or new works if I got it from someone else.  I don't try to hide it, not that I would ever bring it up unprovoked, but I ain't going to lie about it.

I actually never had an abscess, collapsed vein, noticeable scarring, or cotton fever either, and I only had ok sterile practices.


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: koods]
    #24007726 - 01/13/17 04:34 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

The accuracy of the information (e.g., whether someone uses IV drugs) depends on the source. In my experience, when individuals are enrolled in formal studies, they have little incentive to lie about their behaviors. In conducting more formal survey analyses, interviewers are usually well-trained to prevent lieing and there may be methodologies to prevent lying.


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: badchad]
    #24007778 - 01/13/17 04:55 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Former IV user. No Hep C. I found out my ex did catch Hep C from IV use though, but we weren't speaking to each other during that time so god knows where she got it. After that I wouldn't even leave a needle in close proximity to hers. We threw out our needles after first use so we never shared or got them mixed up.


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Re: IV drug use (with poll) [Re: badchad]
    #24007937 - 01/13/17 06:09 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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The accuracy of the information (e.g., whether someone uses IV drugs) depends on the source. In my experience, when individuals are enrolled in formal studies, they have little incentive to lie about their behaviors. In conducting more formal survey analyses, interviewers are usually well-trained to prevent lieing and there may be methodologies to prevent lying.



I just read the CDC guidelines. Hep C infection is not mandatory to report, only symptomatic infection is. I may have to change my assessment even though in the small sample so far one third of users would lie.


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