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Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya....
    #24006802 - 01/13/17 10:47 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

WTF!:llamastare:


  ... well I tried the new batch and they didn't do anything for me either. So that's four attempts on mushrooms and nothing... it actually felt like it was coming on last night but then just dropped off...:smugjerry:

  It's super crazy that all the sudden my brain would just not allowed a hefty dose of mushrooms to have any effect at all. Even more strange is the fact that my bro and me have had the identical experiences each time and he can no longer get high on mushrooms either.... too weird!:wonka:


... I feel like they just shut down so that I will be pushed to do the Ayahuasca ....:vibin:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24006828 - 01/13/17 10:57 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Ayahuasca is amazing stuff. If you can, go to the amazon in Peru and do it.
Templeofthewayoflight.org is one of the best. Their Shipibo shamen are some of the best in the world


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Saint76]
    #24006882 - 01/13/17 11:21 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

:lolsy:
I'd never go to Peru or the Amazon for an Ayahuasca trip that someone else prepares. Sounds like a tourist scam to me. I'd either make it in my kitchen and take it in my bedroom or go camping and make it over a camp fire.


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Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #24006904 - 01/13/17 11:32 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

How much did you eat?


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: HamHead]
    #24006910 - 01/13/17 11:34 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

5g. Lemon tek...


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #24006913 - 01/13/17 11:35 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

They're the ones that discovered it thousand of years ago. I'm pretty sure they know what they're doing. And the Shipibo's icaros really guide the experience the way it was ment to be experienced
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000] * 2
    #24006925 - 01/13/17 11:39 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

It sounds like a new batch of bunk mushrooms. If you and your brother have the same lack of effects the reason seems pretty obvious.

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They're the ones that discovered it thousand of years ago. I'm pretty sure they know what they're doing. And the Shipibo's icaros really guide the experience the way it was ment to be experienced
Don't know what your missing brother




I'm sure it's not a scam or w/e, but that seems like saying the only way to eat lasagna is to fly to Italy.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24006932 - 01/13/17 11:40 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

After reading all of your post, I think it might be time to go for your 10n10. You trip a lot from what I observe. Tolerance is a thing, even when it's not physically. I believe you have adapted to the headspace and may need much more to achieve the effects you seek.

I hear and read about people eating 20-40g dry and sometime want to suggest to some of the heads around here that, it might be time to push the envelope.

Just out of curiosity, what's your higest dose of mushrooms alone?


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Saint76]
    #24006933 - 01/13/17 11:40 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

And I'm sure modern day Egyptians can read hieroglyphics on pyramids since their ancestors discovered it thousands of years ago.
Things change and I now have the technology to gain as much information as I need to dose myself accordingly under the right set and setting.

I have a Huautla Psilocybe print that originated in Mexico, I suppose I should only be tripping on shrooms in mexico too eh?


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Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 1
    #24006958 - 01/13/17 11:51 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

No it's more like some movies were ment to be seen on the big screen not the television.
But if you only want to watch television that's your problem.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24006961 - 01/13/17 11:52 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Don't think so....

... so if you haven't read my previous post it basically went down like this. About six weeks ago or so we had the best trip of Our Lives On 6 and 6 combo... then we got some Cyans... we did those and they didn't work then the following week we went back to the original cubes that we are eating before and they did nothing and they literally gave it the best trip of Our Lives previously.

  Then we attempted the cubes one more time then we got the new batch and tried those and they didn't do it either. The thing is though is other people have tripped on both these cubes and the cyans and said they had great trips and we had a great trip on the cubes and all the sudden mushrooms just do nothing for us....simultaneously...

I mean we keep going over and over it I had to but the only thing we can figure out is either the mushrooms trying to tell us something or we have some weird long-term tolerance thing and somehow we went from the greatest trip of Our Lives to not being able to feel the same mushrooms at all 2 weeks later?


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24006963 - 01/13/17 11:53 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Also both of these batches of shrooms or from our very best guy and it's always always been super super awesome!


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24007001 - 01/13/17 12:10 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I dunno, maybe take a few months off then try and come back full speed ahead and hit it hard.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Saint76]
    #24007017 - 01/13/17 12:17 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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No it's more like some movies were ment to be seen on the big screen not the television.
But if you only want to watch television that's your problem.




Exactly. Some people will buy a simple projector or big screen TV though. They're not only available at the local cinaplex.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24007079 - 01/13/17 12:42 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Bro when you do the aya let me know your recipe and dose and that shit. I can walk you through it if needed, and possibly help you figure out what you could add. Message me if you want. If not, I expect to hear nothing but awesomeness from the trip hope you have a blast!!


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000] * 1
    #24007091 - 01/13/17 12:46 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking Ayahuasca or analog plants in the comfort of one's own home. I've gotten plenty of benefits from it and probably will never feel the need to go to a ceremony or fly to Peru.

A lot of people get into this on the Ayahuasca fb group, and there's a lot of uptight people on there who think the one and only way to take Aya is doing it traditionally in the jungle, and practically dismiss all other ways people can use the plants. I for one completely advocate for taking Aya on one's own in their home. I've gotten so much from working with Peganum Harmala and Mimosa Hostilis or Acacia Confusa, i'd much rather stay home and take the plants on my own in my own way and get what i need without flying to Peru, spending a crap ton of money i don't have, all for a few experiences that may or may not work properly. I'd much rather spend my money on the plants themselves and have a lot of medicine to work with than flying somewhere and paying more money for just a few experiences.

Not to mention when taking it on your own, you can use any plant you want, including a Rue and Caapi mix. I embrace all the plants we have available to us and could care less if it's traditional or not. There's plants all over the world that contain Harmalas and DMT, some Acacia trees are even known to contain both. Plus Rue comes from the middle east and i'm pretty sure it has a long history over there, perhaps even surpassing that of Caapi in South America. Either way, i just work with the plants, i don't like being tied down to/limited by any tradition.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Sabnock]
    #24007128 - 01/13/17 01:04 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I've done it over a hundred times with a group by myself at home.whatever
I'm just saying you have not experienced its full potential if you've not had a guided trip with a Shipibo shamen singing their icaros to you. They are the masters. The other tribes send their Shaman to be trained by them.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Saint76]
    #24007556 - 01/13/17 03:30 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

You sure have a tight butt hole for someone who's done hundreds of aya trips.


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How to get started in bulk:
Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Saint76]
    #24007571 - 01/13/17 03:36 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Quote:

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I've done it over a hundred times with a group by myself at home.whatever
I'm just saying you have not experienced its full potential if you've not had a guided trip with a Shipibo shamen singing their icaros to you. They are the masters. The other tribes send their Shaman to be trained by them.




I've had plenty of full on experiences and witnessed a lot of the potential of the plants and the potential within myself. I really do not need or want to take it with a shaman. Plus, i use analog plants, which tradition doesn't even apply to. Not to mention i'm quite sure DMT and Harmala concoctions, or at least Harmala and Shroom concoctions were at one time more global, i think people were using these things long before those in South America. I'm just saying, we shouldn't act like those in South America are the "chosen ones", Humans have used all sorts of plants throughout time all over the world, sure South America has some living tradition with some plants, but i don't think their way is the only or true way, like some people seem to think apparently.

I'm sure there are things the shamans in South America can do and it would be nice to witness that, one day, but as for going there to specifically drink Aya, i'd much rather take it or analog plants, or any Psychedelic/Entheogen for that matter on my own, and if i wanted to visit South America it'd be more to learn from their culture and traditions rather than to take the plants.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24008146 - 01/13/17 07:43 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Bro when you do the aya let me know your recipe and dose and that shit. I can walk you through it if needed, and possibly help you figure out what you could add. Message me if you want. If not, I expect to hear nothing but awesomeness from the trip hope you have a blast!!




Thanks Mike! I will definitely hit you up when we're going to do it and try to get it rocking!

  Thanks for the kindness:bigyesnod:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24008219 - 01/13/17 08:27 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

that sucks bro :thumbdown:  :thumbdown:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: projectbadass]
    #24008291 - 01/13/17 09:17 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

what are you doing when you're waiting for them to come up?

are you sitting around or moving around? Going out back near my cow field and constantly moving around solved this issue for me


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: cube talk]
    #24009255 - 01/14/17 09:23 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Patient: I've been on these antidepressants for 3 months and they're just not working.

Dr: Well what do you do when you're on them? Have you tried going out to a cow field and walking around?

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24009611 - 01/14/17 11:38 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

your current grow is just bunk(happens to all of us), seems like you're reading way far into something that's not there.

I don't think it's the mushrooms telling you something. They're just bunk. Maybe you're learning to take some clones and test for potency first this time. Seems more likely than mushroom never allowing you to trip again (lol)


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: filthyknees]
    #24009626 - 01/14/17 11:43 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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your current grow is just bunk(happens to all of us), seems like you're reading way far into something that's not there.

I don't think it's the mushrooms telling you something. They're just bunk. Maybe you're learning to take some clones and test for potency first this time. Seems more likely than mushroom never allowing you to trip again (lol)





I don't think he's growing his own mushrooms. He mentions that he got them from a guy who he said had good product prior.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: HamHead]
    #24009683 - 01/14/17 12:18 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

:stoner: thank you. Point still gets across


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: filthyknees]
    #24009688 - 01/14/17 12:22 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

I think either you need a good long break,
Or you need to take a kilindi dose.

20+ grams :lol:

Maybe try 4-aco-dmt and see if you can trip on that? That'll be a good guage if your mushrooms are weak or not. Your dude could just be unloading a weak tub or two on you while feeding you bullshit like yeah these are good.

Not saying that's happening I'm just saying you never know with people.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: filthyknees]
    #24009691 - 01/14/17 12:23 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

And even then, OP mentions tripping from the same batch of mushrooms only weeks prior. Also, other people are tripping on the same batch the OP is eating from.

Like I said, I think OP might be tripping too often and simply needs to take a break for a little while. Or hell, sit down with a couple ounces and eat until you're happily tripping. :shrug:


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: HamHead]
    #24009699 - 01/14/17 12:26 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Oh yeah true forgot that part. He also mentions tripping every week.

For me with mushrooms the tolerance curb is even higher than other psychs like LSD.
you can eat LSD once a week and still trip recently but ime not with mushrooms.

A good long break is in order I think, either that or yeah just munch on an ounce lol.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: impaired420]
    #24009712 - 01/14/17 12:33 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Add some harmalas to your next trip. You wouldn't even need a lot say 25 g of b Caapi or less. At 1% yield that's 250mg which is plenty enough to potentate ( unless I did math wrong idk man lol) take a ghost dose aka eat it alllll


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: impaired420]
    #24009713 - 01/14/17 12:34 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

I'd have to agree with filthyknees

I've had the same thing happening to me, but i do trip, but i don't get the visuals i use to get before, its mostly mind fuck, body load, and weird memories.

Im sure it has something to do with the potency, and also i read pastywhyte mentioning that the active levels can effect the trip, like some can get you to have a drunk feeling but 0 visuals, and other will give you insane visuals..

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: filthyknees]
    #24009718 - 01/14/17 12:36 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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your current grow is just bunk(happens to all of us), seems like you're reading way far into something that's not there.

I don't think it's the mushrooms telling you something. They're just bunk. Maybe you're learning to take some clones and test for potency first this time. Seems more likely than mushroom never allowing you to trip again (lol)





...not bunk.... this is the third batch of mushrooms outside and we haven't had somebody else has these but the other two batches other people ate them and trip trip quite well including one guy saying it was the best trip of his life... also that same bag was absolutely kick ass and then 4 weeks later it was totally nothing? Doubtful...:shrug:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24009722 - 01/14/17 12:38 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Also I've been tripping mushrooms from multiple different batches for over two years every two weeks and have always always gotten off... the fact that it happened all of a sudden and I've eaten from three different batches and gotten absolutely nothing tells me it has to be in my brain.... even if they were weak I still would have felt something at 5 grams:shrug:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24009735 - 01/14/17 12:43 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

I've taken 20 dry grams from my batch, and it still had the same effects of what i had before which was 7 grams, (same body load, and mind fuck, no visuals, only memory)  and i still didn't get the visuals i use to get..

I use to think it's something with my brain, but now im realising it's not, it just the certain alkaloid levels in the shrooms itself depending on its genetics..


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #24009740 - 01/14/17 12:45 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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I'd have to agree with filthyknees

I've had the same thing happening to me, but i do trip, but i don't get the visuals i use to get before, its mostly mind fuck, body load, and weird memories.

Im sure it has something to do with the potency, and also i read pastywhyte mentioning that the active levels can effect the trip, like some can get you to have a drunk feeling but 0 visuals, and other will give you insane visuals..

I'm playing around with my grows right now, and hopefully i'll get something worth it soon





... like I said I've been tripping mushrooms almost every two weeks for 2 years and had never had anything like this happen at all. And other people seem to trip on them? I feel like we have eliminated the fact that they're bunk. There's no way the original cubes went from over-the-top potent to nothing in 30 days.....

... I think I'm just going to take a 6 month break.... hope the fun returns!

  Back in October we tripped one week apart for the full month and those were the most amazing trips ever and I clearly didn't experience any tolerance......ugh?....

  The whole f****** thing doesn't make a lot of sense especially the fact that LSD still seems to work just fine...

  I just don't think LSD does it for me in quite the same way as mushrooms and I'm really going to miss that for the time being....


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #24009745 - 01/14/17 12:47 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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I've taken 20 dry grams from my batch, and it still had the same effects of what i had before which was 7 grams, (same body load, and mind fuck, no visuals, only memory)  and i still didn't get the visuals i use to get..

I use to think it's something with my brain, but now im realising it's not, it just the certain alkaloid levels in the shrooms itself depending on its genetics..





... that doesn't explain how other people from the same bag and reported tripping quite well. Also from what I understand the cubes wouldn't go for him amazingly potent to zero 30 days

... this last time I did start to have the kind of feeling but after 20 minutes or so it just stopped progressing and was nothing but making my right arm feel sore which ironically happened the last time... it's an enigma!...

  Like I said I have been feeding off that one back for 6 months and it has been the greatest mushroom trips of my life Time and Time Again:shrug:


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    #24009748 - 01/14/17 12:48 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Time for ayahuasca brother, prepare deep and meditate and cleanse your thoughts and you will have a wonderful time I know you will


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24009753 - 01/14/17 12:49 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Also I've been tripping mushrooms from multiple different batches for over two years every two weeks and have always always gotten off... the fact that it happened all of a sudden and I've eaten from three different batches and gotten absolutely nothing tells me it has to be in my brain.... even if they were weak I still would have felt something at 5 grams:shrug:



Eat a QP, you will be effected. Do it for science, but if you have doubts about doing that I would say clearly you think the mushrooms would not have stopped working. The line in the sand at 5g is arbitrary.

Also god damn every two weeks for two years Jesus Christ yeah maybe the shrooms are saying fuck you and not giving you a trip lol

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    #24009765 - 01/14/17 12:56 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Time for ayahuasca brother, prepare deep and meditate and cleanse your thoughts and you will have a wonderful time I know you will



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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: filthyknees]
    #24009769 - 01/14/17 12:58 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Also I've been tripping mushrooms from multiple different batches for over two years every two weeks and have always always gotten off... the fact that it happened all of a sudden and I've eaten from three different batches and gotten absolutely nothing tells me it has to be in my brain.... even if they were weak I still would have felt something at 5 grams:shrug:



Eat a QP, you will be effected. Do it for science, but if you have doubts about doing that I would say clearly you think the mushrooms would not have stopped working. The line in the sand at 5g is arbitrary.

Also god damn every two weeks for two years Jesus Christ yeah maybe the shrooms are saying fuck you and not giving you a trip lol

Good luck on your next stage




...lol... my stomach would be so f****** bloated eating that much mushrooms. I would be super pissed if I ate an ounce and it did nothing what a waste!....

  I just feel like if an ounce was going to get me totally f***** up that 5 grams should make me feel a little something at least?

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24009770 - 01/14/17 12:58 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Cactus maybe?....


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: filthyknees]
    #24009812 - 01/14/17 01:25 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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your current grow is just bunk(happens to all of us), seems like you're reading way far into something that's not there.

I don't think it's the mushrooms telling you something. They're just bunk. Maybe you're learning to take some clones and test for potency first this time. Seems more likely than mushroom never allowing you to trip again (lol)




This is it. I don't know how many times we need to say it, your mushrooms are bunk. I don't care if some people tripped, some of them were obviously not bunk then, that's what happens with MS. That's very very normal, it's expected in fact. We don't need 300 more threads asking the same god damned question or hearing complaints that you "can't" trip.

I don't know if you were involved OP, I'm sorry if I'm taking it out on you if not, but there have been probably 10 or more threads asking or complaining about this over the last month just from 2 or maybe 3 different people. Stop, the answer is not going to change just because you ask again. You're not special, there's nothing different about your brain than anyone else's. If you can't trip, can't get high on pot, or w/e else then you would have some very serious mental issues in your everyday waking life. Your receptors are not just sitting there waiting for you to give them drugs, they are constantly working to provide you with conscious awareness.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24010442 - 01/14/17 06:14 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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your current grow is just bunk(happens to all of us), seems like you're reading way far into something that's not there.

I don't think it's the mushrooms telling you something. They're just bunk. Maybe you're learning to take some clones and test for potency first this time. Seems more likely than mushroom never allowing you to trip again (lol)




This is it. I don't know how many times we need to say it, your mushrooms are bunk. I don't care if some people tripped, some of them were obviously not bunk then, that's what happens with MS. That's very very normal, it's expected in fact. We don't need 300 more threads asking the same god damned question or hearing complaints that you "can't" trip.

I don't know if you were involved OP, I'm sorry if I'm taking it out on you if not, but there have been probably 10 or more threads asking or complaining about this over the last month just from 2 or maybe 3 different people. Stop, the answer is not going to change just because you ask again. You're not special, there's nothing different about your brain than anyone else's. If you can't trip, can't get high on pot, or w/e else then you would have some very serious mental issues in your everyday waking life. Your receptors are not just sitting there waiting for you to give them drugs, they are constantly working to provide you with conscious awareness.




 
  So I eat from the same bag 15-20 times.... trip hard  (real hard) every time .... now for some reason the last 3 times a get mushrooms from the same bag they're totally bunk... for me and my bro?.... that makes no sense...and the other Mush too?....they were bunk?...like somehow we missed all the bunk shrooms previously? And now we are finding them all at once?

  ....not shure about that..:shrug:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24010621 - 01/14/17 07:33 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Maybe they're old and degraded. Occam's razor, what do you think is more likely? Your neuro receptors have changed drastically but it only is apparent when ingesting hallucinogens or that you didn't actually ingest a significant amount of alkaloids? Not just that but you and your brother simultaneously had this change occur. Your description even sounds like a low dose trip to me.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24010922 - 01/14/17 09:41 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Uhm, yeah, that.  Or maybe you've contracted a contagious anti-psychedelic mind virus somehow...  :aliceshocker:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24011016 - 01/14/17 10:33 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

I agree and I was going with that premise butt it still doesn't explain the other premise...

.. I don't see how they could go from awesome to nothing in a month that is contrary to my experience. And I've had some mushrooms in the past that were weak and I definitely noticed it but still felt like I was tripping I mean this s*** was literally nothing...

.. I want to believe that they are simply not potent. If they were weak when I still feel something or if they were degrading when they gradually lose potency not go from completely awesome to nothing in 30 days time?.......

... I'm not trying to be redundant  it is just very unusual and runs contradictory to my other previous experiences....


..... it just doesn't make sense that I would have dose after dose of Awesomeness and then all the sudden I'm grabbing completely a completely bunk dose out of the same bag ?? I would think it would sort of average out as far as potency when just randomly grabbing in the bag and weighing out a dose?:shrug:

I can see it slightly varying and 1 dose being super strong and another one being a little less but not just nothing...? those mushrooms were so f****** strong!:bigyesnod:.....


....regardless.... I'm going to take a break and hopefully in a few months it will start rocking again!

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24011017 - 01/14/17 10:34 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24011069 - 01/14/17 11:14 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

I've had the same thing happen. Dosed from a bag, had a great trip, grabbed from the same bag and me and my friend experienced nothing. It's happened to me two or three times. The mushrooms were bunk. I've later grabbed from the same bag and tripped. Some batches are better than others, some mushrooms have no alkaloids at all, and in these cases it's literally down to luck of the draw. The ones that happened with for me happened to be B+ which have been called 'bunk plus,' whether it's a coincidence or not I don't know.


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    #24011567 - 01/15/17 09:09 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

I just posted a very long thread about basically this exact same thing happening to me.

Krypto2000, I get where you're coming from, but you don't really know what you're talking about until you've experienced this first hand. It's not just "the shrooms are bunk." I've already disproven that theory.

My current standing is that repeated heavy usage of psilocybin creates schizophrenia, i.e. compartmentalization in the brain. It is possible, with repeated usage, to cause the brain to "send" the psychedelic experience into another, undetectable part of the mind where the conscious mind can't feel it.

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    #24011678 - 01/15/17 09:54 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Yeah, that does sound like bs :rofl:. Where did you get that idea from? Again, occam's razor man. Lets assume you're right and that you can't be affected by psychedelics anymore, does that seems like the most likely explanation to you? Your 5ht receptors play a very very vital role in your everyday consciousness. I promise you that you did not have a trip one day that totally rewired your brain to somehow not use 5ht receptors for conscious thought, that's way out there. WAY out there. It sounds about as reasonable as an alien abduction and biomodification or something, that is NOT going to happen. How something that is totally unconscious could be considered schizophrenia either I don't know, that doesn't make sense, schizophrenia is very apparent, it's not like you can have a hidden schizophrenia that has no symptoms.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24011740 - 01/15/17 10:11 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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I've had the same thing happen. Dosed from a bag, had a great trip, grabbed from the same bag and me and my friend experienced nothing. It's happened to me two or three times. The mushrooms were bunk. I've later grabbed from the same bag and tripped. Some batches are better than others, some mushrooms have no alkaloids at all, and in these cases it's literally down to luck of the draw. The ones that happened with for me happened to be B+ which have been called 'bunk plus,' whether it's a coincidence or not I don't know.



Yes. If you take ten minutes to research multispore genetics in the mush cult section you will learn it is a crap shoot. In the same grow you can have a range from non-potent to potent.

It's just as simple as that, not excluding your rediculous dosage frequency giving you tolerance.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: filthyknees]
    #24011998 - 01/15/17 11:40 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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I've had the same thing happen. Dosed from a bag, had a great trip, grabbed from the same bag and me and my friend experienced nothing. It's happened to me two or three times. The mushrooms were bunk. I've later grabbed from the same bag and tripped. Some batches are better than others, some mushrooms have no alkaloids at all, and in these cases it's literally down to luck of the draw. The ones that happened with for me happened to be B+ which have been called 'bunk plus,' whether it's a coincidence or not I don't know.



Yes. If you take ten minutes to research multispore genetics in the mush cult section you will learn it is a crap shoot. In the same grow you can have a range from non-potent to potent.

It's just as simple as that, not excluding your rediculous dosage frequency giving you tolerance.





....ok... can someone answer this question please...?

  How could I be eating out of the same batch and tripping time and time again and then all the sudden from the same bag literally I'm getting nothing.... like I said before wouldn't it sort of average out not have full-blown trips and then no trip at all? We're usually doing 7 gram so the idea that I would get 7 grams of Awesomeness time and time again and then get 7 grams of nothingness twice in a row while other people tripped says to me something more than simply that they are bunk..

..I get the multi-spore thing.. but would you agree it would sort of average out not just all of the sudden have completely bunk trips?


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24012005 - 01/15/17 11:42 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Also I've been tripping every two weeks and I feel is plenty of time in between trips and has proven so over the last 2 years:shrug:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24012022 - 01/15/17 11:47 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

We literally just told you man. Mushroom A might be bunk, mushrooms B might be potent as shit, and mushrooms C might be in the middle. Sometimes you get mostly mushrooms A. Sometimes B, usually it's a mix of all three and the trips average out, but not always. It's a numbers game. If your mushrooms are high is psilocin and low in psilocybin they can rapidly degrade and lose potency as well, they can go from 100% psilocin at harvest to next to nothing in a months time.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24012060 - 01/15/17 12:05 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Ok... but 3 different batches...?

...and they work for others?

  .. and somehow my bro also grabbed two completely bunk mushrooms?

.. believe me at first I just thought they were bunk but after multiple tests I'm still left with questions...

... wouldn't I at least trip a little bit?

  After getting nothing the first time I switch to the cyanescens... then back to the cubes again from the first batch. Then cubes from a new batch...

  I just can't wrap my head around how both of us we're grabbing completely Punk patches and yet other people were tripping and even we tripped off the first batch many many times...

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    #24012202 - 01/15/17 01:10 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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Ok... but 3 different batches...?




Yes...

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...and they work for others?




Yes...

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.. and somehow my bro also grabbed two completely bunk mushrooms?




Still yes. And only two mushrooms? That makes it even more likely. If you had grabbed 20 small mushrooms it would spread out your chances.

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.. believe me at first I just thought they were bunk but after multiple tests I'm still left with questions...




We've given you the answers, again, and again, and again, same answers. You seem to be refusing to accept them, I can't help that.

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... wouldn't I at least trip a little bit?




Not necessarily, but per your very own description you did trip a little bit.

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it actually felt like it was coming on last night but then just dropped off...




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  After getting nothing the first time I switch to the cyanescens... then back to the cubes again from the first batch. Then cubes from a new batch...




Sounds like a bunch of bunk mushrooms.

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  I just can't wrap my head around how both of us we're grabbing completely Punk patches and yet other people were tripping and even we tripped off the first batch many many times...




I just told you. Alkaloid content varies from one mushroom to the next. If you take a bunch and grind them into a flour you'll have consistent potency from trip to trip.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24012292 - 01/15/17 02:02 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)



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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24012336 - 01/15/17 02:33 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

One more time for science, In a multispore tub there are many sets of genetics, yes they are limited to the ones that 'win' and colonize over the weaker strains, that does not mean that there cannot be one strain that has very very low levels of actives yet 'wins' the colonization run. Also doesn't mean that the cluster a foot away cannot contain much higher levels of actives. It's not all homogenous like you suspect. That's why commonly people will eat the fruits they clone from, to make sure they are reasonably potent. It is inevitable that with multispore there is a range of actives present over even a single flush.

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: filthyknees]
    #24012380 - 01/15/17 02:58 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

I agree with that....but I have tripped like a hundred times on many batches and have not ever experienced this level of impotence..now all of a sudden? Nothing?

  It's like hitting blackjack a hundred times in a row...

  Maybe i was super lucky....reliably tripping 7 grams all those times and now the random completely bunk (completely! ) doses from multiple batches...

  All I'm saying is u have to admit that's Strange and contrary to my personal experience.

  Maybe other people tripped one time and then nothing next time from same batch...but that has NOT been my experience...

Batches can vary...

  But my trips from any individual batch have been consistent....never just bunk or even noticeably stronger or weaker trip to trip.

...IME....:firstladyofapproval:


  Maybe that's what happened to you guys when you do mushrooms but it has never happened to me personally...75-100 trips....


  I would say I would have already had one of those experiences by now and that case like I said it's like hitting Blackjack 100 times in a row the statistics are off the charts...

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24012382 - 01/15/17 03:00 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

:llamastare: MUSHROOM GODS :llamastare:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24012462 - 01/15/17 03:40 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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I just posted a very long thread about basically this exact same thing happening to me.

Krypto2000, I get where you're coming from, but you don't really know what you're talking about until you've experienced this first hand. It's not just "the shrooms are bunk." I've already disproven that theory.

My current standing is that repeated heavy usage of psilocybin creates schizophrenia, i.e. compartmentalization in the brain. It is possible, with repeated usage, to cause the brain to "send" the psychedelic experience into another, undetectable part of the mind where the conscious mind can't feel it.

I know this sounds like bullshit, but it is true.




I've tripped on mushrooms more than should be humanly possible, and for long extended periods, multiple times a week, and this never happened.  Doesn't mean it didn't happen to you.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24012468 - 01/15/17 03:42 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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:llamastare: MUSHROOM GODS :llamastare:





Could be.  Did you offend them accidentally?  They're mysterious motherfuckers IME and they REALLY LOVE TO FUCK WITH YOU IF THEY CAN.

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24012513 - 01/15/17 04:05 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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I agree with that....but I have tripped like a hundred times on many batches and have not ever experienced this level of impotence..now all of a sudden? Nothing?

  It's like hitting blackjack a hundred times in a row...

  Maybe i was super lucky....reliably tripping 7 grams all those times and now the random completely bunk (completely! ) doses from multiple batches...

  All I'm saying is u have to admit that's Strange and contrary to my personal experience.

  Maybe other people tripped one time and then nothing next time from same batch...but that has NOT been my experience...

Batches can vary...

  But my trips from any individual batch have been consistent....never just bunk or even noticeably stronger or weaker trip to trip.

...IME....:firstladyofapproval:


  Maybe that's what happened to you guys when you do mushrooms but it has never happened to me personally...75-100 trips....


  I would say I would have already had one of those experiences by now and that case like I said it's like hitting Blackjack 100 times in a row the statistics are off the charts...

:bigyesnod:




I've tripped maybe 200 times. I can only remember 3 times that I experienced this, maybe 1 or two more I'm forgetting, and I can't rule out external factors either so it may be as low as 0. It makes sense though. Say your mushrooms have from 0 to 100% potency. It's probably not totally random like that, we'd have to screen the genetic profile and determine various factors that influence it to know, but to simplify it lets say it is. By those odds 1/100 mushrooms will give you no effects at all, 1 out of 10 will give you weak effects, and likewise the opposite, 1/100 will be 2-3x as strong as normal. The more mushrooms you grab from a batch the more it will average out.

Unless you only eat large single mushrooms it's going to be pretty rare that you experience a trip that is in that lower 10 percentile as each additional # of mushrooms you add will decrease the odds of it happening exponentially. If your friend for instance only ate two mushrooms though then he statistically would have a 1/100 chance of getting in that lower 10 percentile range. If he ate 5 mushrooms he'd have a 1/100,000 chance of it happening.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24013596 - 01/16/17 01:20 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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I just posted a very long thread about basically this exact same thing happening to me.

Krypto2000, I get where you're coming from, but you don't really know what you're talking about until you've experienced this first hand. It's not just "the shrooms are bunk." I've already disproven that theory.

My current standing is that repeated heavy usage of psilocybin creates schizophrenia, i.e. compartmentalization in the brain. It is possible, with repeated usage, to cause the brain to "send" the psychedelic experience into another, undetectable part of the mind where the conscious mind can't feel it.

I know this sounds like bullshit, but it is true.




I've tripped on mushrooms more than should be humanly possible, and for long extended periods, multiple times a week, and this never happened.  Doesn't mean it didn't happen to you.




This is exactly why I came here to look for answers. Because I knew the Shroomery would be filled with experienced, long-term trippers. A great base of experiential knowledge from which to draw.

And I'm looking to be convinced that my mind has not been split.

I've had some incredibly traumatic experiences in my life. My parent's divorce when I was  a kid, devastating break-ups and betrayals, and my own personal nightmares from drug abuse (I'm clean now, thank God). If it is true that intense trauma can cause splits in the mind, then perhaps my mind has been split at various points in my life. These splits are used to tuck away traumatic memories and thoughts - hidden away in folds of the brain, like a filing cabinet. This is the necessary mental processing which takes place for a human being to continue to operate after a terrible  experience.

Add in a year of intense, unregulated and inexact application of an unstable tryptamine compound like psilocybin. By over-thinking and stressing about the psychedelic trip, I am actually forcing my brain to compartmentalize the psilocybin and the trip into one of these "folders" within my mind. At points during my "failed trips" I have had the feeling that if I could only relax my mind and enter a mode of free focus and meditation then I could enter the psychedelic realm. Unfortunately, this caused a loop, where I would then just get frustrated that I couldn't achieve this "chi."


Instead of pushing-pushing-pushing that "Hey, your mushrooms are bunk and that's all there is to it!" Why not consider alternative possibilities. Because I went through all of that all ready, and it simply was not true. Other people tried my shrooms and I bought and ate shrooms from other people that were tried and tested as being of very high potency. The idea that every time these trades were performed that the right people got the right potency levels to reinforce this idea that the shrooms are good for others and bad for me is very, very highly improbable. In short: the shrooms are good and it's been proven by parties who are not me, i.e. normal brained people. If you apply logic to this train of thinking, it eliminate the mushroom potency as a factor, and leaves only one thing - in fact, the only other component in the equation: the mind.


I would like to ask the OP if he has had any signs of schizophrenia (talking to yourself, increased internal dialogues) over the course of your regular tripping?


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24013605 - 01/16/17 01:30 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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I just posted a very long thread about basically this exact same thing happening to me.

Krypto2000, I get where you're coming from, but you don't really know what you're talking about until you've experienced this first hand. It's not just "the shrooms are bunk." I've already disproven that theory.

My current standing is that repeated heavy usage of psilocybin creates schizophrenia, i.e. compartmentalization in the brain. It is possible, with repeated usage, to cause the brain to "send" the psychedelic experience into another, undetectable part of the mind where the conscious mind can't feel it.

I know this sounds like bullshit, but it is true.




I've tripped on mushrooms more than should be humanly possible, and for long extended periods, multiple times a week, and this never happened.  Doesn't mean it didn't happen to you.




Allow me to go down a different path.

You say that you've tripped on mushrooms for long extended periods, multiple times a week. Can you tell me about your highest "peak" on that extended period? By peak, I mean the maximum amount you had to take to achieve a full mushroom trip? Did you tolerance continue to rise as you continued to use?

Because I went from taking 2.5-3g initial dosage with an add-on of 2g-3g about 3-4 hours into the experience, to taking 8-12g in 2-3 doses in order to achieve the same high. Did you have a drastic increase of tolerance as well?

This question is for anyone who would like to answer and has experience with month-long, repeated weekly usage of psilocybin.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24013682 - 01/16/17 02:29 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Sure, totally normal trips, full psychedelia and hyperspace.  I've always either grown my own or picked wild.  I think that makes a huge difference to the experience.  And I've almost always made tea from the fresh fruits and stored that frozen, rarely drying for storage. Ditto.

With repeated use you just have to adjust the dosage for tolerance - there's a peak tolerance at about 200g fresh mushrooms (of normal cubes that is - that would be about 20g dried) that you get to after about a week; before that each successive day takes about 50% more than the day before.  There are no long term side effects, the only thing noticeable is when you quit these sorts of experiments there's a few days of flat affect where everything seems fairly muted by comparison to normal sober experience.  :shrug:  The up side is the incredible trips, and being able to do that day after day.  :thumbup:

It just sounds to me like you're having trouble accessing the trip, as it were.  It's a form of resistance.  You can go from straight to full on trip in an eyeblink (literally - I've had this happen) once you discover how to access it more easily.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24014218 - 01/16/17 10:10 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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Sure, totally normal trips, full psychedelia and hyperspace.  I've always either grown my own or picked wild.  I think that makes a huge difference to the experience.  And I've almost always made tea from the fresh fruits and stored that frozen, rarely drying for storage. Ditto.

With repeated use you just have to adjust the dosage for tolerance - there's a peak tolerance at about 200g fresh mushrooms (of normal cubes that is - that would be about 20g dried) that you get to after about a week; before that each successive day takes about 50% more than the day before.  There are no long term side effects, the only thing noticeable is when you quit these sorts of experiments there's a few days of flat affect where everything seems fairly muted by comparison to normal sober experience.  :shrug:  The up side is the incredible trips, and being able to do that day after day.  :thumbup:

It just sounds to me like you're having trouble accessing the trip, as it were.  It's a form of resistance.  You can go from straight to full on trip in an eyeblink (literally - I've had this happen) once you discover how to access it more easily.





  .... I have to say that the odds of it being a potency issue are highly disputable. The odds that I would have a trip after trip of amazingness and then get nothing is pretty statistically improbable.

.. I honestly don't know what to do other than eating a ridiculous amount of mushrooms I mean way more than I typically do. Or wait a couple months and try this latest batch again and see if the magic returns?

... without actually testing the mushrooms there's no definitive way to make a statement about the potency...:wonka:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24014244 - 01/16/17 10:20 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

There's no definitive way to make a statement about your brain's biochemistry too then.  :fearandloathing:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24014256 - 01/16/17 10:25 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

You had people explaining multispore genetic potency variation in the last page but now you know enough to say a potency issue is highly disputable?.. that's just poor reading comprehension.


If you really care to learn how it all actually works then grow your own, test the potency of your clones yourself and that's the end of it. Otherwise you don't know what you're getting unless you intimately know your suppliers cultivation methods.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #24014381 - 01/16/17 11:18 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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There's no definitive way to make a statement about your brain's biochemistry too then.  :fearandloathing:





....agreed... I think I'm just taking 8 weeks off of mushrooms and then I'll try them again and see if anything changes...:shrug:... sadly


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: filthyknees]
    #24014397 - 01/16/17 11:23 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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You had people explaining multispore genetic potency variation in the last page but now you know enough to say a potency issue is highly disputable?.. that's just poor reading comprehension.


If you really care to learn how it all actually works then grow your own, test the potency of your clones yourself and that's the end of it. Otherwise you don't know what you're getting unless you intimately know your suppliers cultivation methods.





... stop being such a prick!:firstladyofapproval:


... I read that s*** and I said that I agreed with it but no one wants to seem to understand the fact that you get awesome trips again and again and again now all the sudden just nothing? On three different batches? I think the one dude summed up the probability of it and it was pretty low...


.... you can't just write it off as potency without taking a look at the other factors...

... or I guess maybe all the important mushrooms or extra heavy and fell to the bottom of the bag....lol... other people have tripped on the same mushrooms as well as us so it's definitely something going on but you can't definitively say its potency especially when other people are tripping on the same batch... and every trip off that bad for us has been f****** awesome now all of a sudden it went to 0?


..... come on dude.... don't act like you've got all the f****** answers:llamastare:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24014403 - 01/16/17 11:26 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

So I guess you guys get shrooms and it's just totally random from those two days so might be awesome and some or just nothing at all?


.... I don't know about you but that has not been my experience whatsoever?


... can someone explain how I have like 75 awesome trips in a row and now three in a row with absolutely nothing not even the slightest bit of psychedelia.?


.... like I said it's like hitting Blackjack 100 times in a row it just doesn't seem probable at all...:shrug:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24014986 - 01/16/17 03:02 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Well it's strange.  I really recommend growing your own if you can - it teaches you more shit than most people know and it's fun too.  Plus there's the chance to grow the best shrooms in the world, basically, as many as you want... :scaryshroom::thumbup:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24015105 - 01/16/17 03:41 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Sorry if I was a prick I was in a bad mood earlier today & shouldn't have posted


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    #24015170 - 01/16/17 04:03 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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Sorry if I was a prick I was in a bad mood earlier today & shouldn't have posted





...sorry if I was harsh... it's crazy though cuz I've been in a bad mood and had some f***** up s*** happened today and I read something earlier that today is known as Blue Monday the most depressing day of the year!

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24015521 - 01/16/17 06:40 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Just sounds like a message to me, why were you taking mushrooms so often? It's probably a message saying stop, you literally don't NEED to trip.

I would hate taking any psychedelic often



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    #24015535 - 01/16/17 06:49 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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Just sounds like a message to me, why were you taking mushrooms so often? It's probably a message saying stop, you literally don't NEED to trip.

I would hate taking any psychedelic often





....taking a break... also we really enjoyed our bi-monthly  psychedelic sessions....:vibin:

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24015547 - 01/16/17 06:54 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

If you don't have any good reason to trip(which you don't if you're abusing them like you are)

Then obviously it's not gonna go how you expected it.

You are expecting the mushrooms to be a certain "strength" when the expectations are what's holding back the entire experience; what do you need the mushrooms for? Why are you expecting anything from them? If you don't have any other good answer than recreation(which is the only logical answer to be dosing every 2 weeks) than that's exactly why you are getting the experience you are.

Enjoying sessions is one thing

Falling into a habit is another

Be lucky the Mushrooms love you enough to tell you in the kindest way, than send you on a spiraling bad trip.

:cheers:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #24016547 - 01/17/17 04:51 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

I'm struggling with a pretty much identical situation and I've come to the same conclusion.

It's time to put down the scale and take a long, long break. Let your brain go back to how it was before you started your trips into the void. Let the third eye close again and the fourth dimension seep away back into some unrevealed dream.

When you return to the harsh reality of the material realm, then you will be allowed to return to the divine kingdom to see the truth again.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24016620 - 01/17/17 06:50 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Hey Voodoo, Idk if anyone has recommended this to you but when you go back to try another trip on the mushrooms you could grind up the batch that way ever dose from that batch would be equal in potency. Idk why your unable to trip right now defiantly seems strange, but I've read a few different posts about people in your situation. tripping regularly (weekly and bi weekly) for extended periods and then having lackluster trips or simply not tripping. Good luck on getting back on track.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24016786 - 01/17/17 08:47 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Permament shroom tolerance?

Damn that suuuuucks.

Wait a few months i guess :shrug:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #24016821 - 01/17/17 09:08 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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If you don't have any good reason to trip(which you don't if you're abusing them like you are)

Then obviously it's not gonna go how you expected it.

You are expecting the mushrooms to be a certain "strength" when the expectations are what's holding back the entire experience; what do you need the mushrooms for? Why are you expecting anything from them? If you don't have any other good answer than recreation(which is the only logical answer to be dosing every 2 weeks) than that's exactly why you are getting the experience you are.

Enjoying sessions is one thing

Falling into a habit is another

Be lucky the Mushrooms love you enough to tell you in the kindest way, than send you on a spiraling bad trip.

:cheers:




...abuse? Chill out dude.:smugjerry:


I've been tripping every two weeks for like 2 years and have always treated me good and continued to have powerful trips and epiphanies as well as great analysis and intellectual discussion on the tail end...

.. we looked at them as psychedelic sessions and harness the power of laughter and Euphoria to benefit in our lives....:awecluster:

  Allways with respect.:scaryshroom:

  Recreational doesn't mean it's not beneficial.:wonka:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24016829 - 01/17/17 09:11 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Permament shroom tolerance?

Damn that suuuuucks.

Wait a few months i guess :shrug:





Yup... will wait at least 2 months and see if the magic comes back. I mean not just the magic but everything psychedelic about mushrooms. It's a rough time for a mushroom lover...:firstladyofapproval:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #24016832 - 01/17/17 09:14 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Hey Voodoo, Idk if anyone has recommended this to you but when you go back to try another trip on the mushrooms you could grind up the batch that way ever dose from that batch would be equal in potency. Idk why your unable to trip right now defiantly seems strange, but I've read a few different posts about people in your situation. tripping regularly (weekly and bi weekly) for extended periods and then having lackluster trips or simply not tripping. Good luck on getting back on track.





.... we always grind mushrooms and then lemon Tek them:firstladyofapproval:


.... it's definitely strange and I'm definitely taking at least two months off and if it still doesn't work I'll wait till August or something...:awenuhuh:

... I love mushrooms so much and whatever it takes I need to get that awesome magic back!:vibin:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24016837 - 01/17/17 09:16 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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I'm struggling with a pretty much identical situation and I've come to the same conclusion.

It's time to put down the scale and take a long, long break. Let your brain go back to how it was before you started your trips into the void. Let the third eye close again and the fourth dimension seep away back into some unrevealed dream.

When you return to the harsh reality of the material realm, then you will be allowed to return to the divine kingdom to see the truth again.





....totally Bro!:firstladyofapproval:

Let's stay in touch and you can let me know how it goes for you. I will definitely make a post in a couple months when I try the mush again!


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24016841 - 01/17/17 09:19 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Yah im guessing all your high doses are catching up with u...


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24016862 - 01/17/17 09:29 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Yah im guessing all your high doses are catching up with u...





... so f****** weird bro! :-( I mean literally the most intense trip of my life on 6 grams and six hits and then 2 weeks later nothing!:llamastare:


.... taking 4 to 6 weeks off and then trying to do some ayahuasca. After that I might attempt shrooms again but I'm giving it at least two months..:firstladyofapproval:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24017094 - 01/17/17 11:13 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Should be rewarded with a good lesson when you return


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #24017213 - 01/17/17 12:00 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Should be rewarded with a good lesson when you return





...bless bless :mindexpanding:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24017950 - 01/17/17 05:10 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Yah im guessing all your high doses are catching up with u...





... so f****** weird bro! :-( I mean literally the most intense trip of my life on 6 grams and six hits and then 2 weeks later nothing!:llamastare:


.... taking 4 to 6 weeks off and then trying to do some ayahuasca. After that I might attempt shrooms again but I'm giving it at least two months..:firstladyofapproval:




It's actually not that weird if you really think about it.

Think of your psychedelic charge as an amount of fluid. The fluid naturally recharges itself, but after deeper and more intense trips, repeated over and over again, will deplete the fluid until it's completely gone. Then you try to trip and the engine starts, but without fluid, the car doesn't move.

We are out of fluid because we were driving the fuck out of those cars.

I'm totally in the same boat as you man. Mushrooms are my religion. They are my weekly charge for the last year. Finding myself so challenged to enter the realm is very frustrating. But I believe it's just the human body showing it's evolutionary capabilities.

I love your idea of checking back in a few weeks. I'll be sure to let you know.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24019349 - 01/18/17 08:38 AM (7 years, 12 days ago)

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Yah im guessing all your high doses are catching up with u...





... so f****** weird bro! :-( I mean literally the most intense trip of my life on 6 grams and six hits and then 2 weeks later nothing!:llamastare:


.... taking 4 to 6 weeks off and then trying to do some ayahuasca. After that I might attempt shrooms again but I'm giving it at least two months..:firstladyofapproval:




It's actually not that weird if you really think about it.

Think of your psychedelic charge as an amount of fluid. The fluid naturally recharges itself, but after deeper and more intense trips, repeated over and over again, will deplete the fluid until it's completely gone. Then you try to trip and the engine starts, but without fluid, the car doesn't move.

We are out of fluid because we were driving the fuck out of those cars.

I'm totally in the same boat as you man. Mushrooms are my religion. They are my weekly charge for the last year. Finding myself so challenged to enter the realm is very frustrating. But I believe it's just the human body showing it's evolutionary capabilities.

I love your idea of checking back in a few weeks. I'll be sure to let you know.



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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24019866 - 01/18/17 12:41 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

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Think of your psychedelic charge as an amount of fluid. The fluid naturally recharges itself, but after deeper and more intense trips, repeated over and over again, will deplete the fluid until it's completely gone. Then you try to trip and the engine starts, but without fluid, the car doesn't move.

We are out of fluid because we were driving the fuck out of those cars.






Somehow I don't think this is how it works...


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    #24019899 - 01/18/17 12:52 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

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They're the ones that discovered it thousand of years ago. I'm pretty sure they know what they're doing. And the Shipibo's icaros really guide the experience the way it was ment to be experienced
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    #24019932 - 01/18/17 01:04 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

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Think of your psychedelic charge as an amount of fluid. The fluid naturally recharges itself, but after deeper and more intense trips, repeated over and over again, will deplete the fluid until it's completely gone. Then you try to trip and the engine starts, but without fluid, the car doesn't move.

We are out of fluid because we were driving the fuck out of those cars.






Somehow I don't think this is how it works...




Yah, that doesn't make sense. If your engine wouldn't start then you wouldn't be able to function. The engine isn't sitting there waiting for you to put drugs in it, it's always running.


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    #24020019 - 01/18/17 01:38 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

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I've done it over a hundred times with a group by myself at home.whatever
I'm just saying you have not experienced its full potential if you've not had a guided trip with a Shipibo shamen singing their icaros to you. They are the masters. The other tribes send their Shaman to be trained by them.




I've had plenty of full on experiences and witnessed a lot of the potential of the plants and the potential within myself. I really do not need or want to take it with a shaman. Plus, i use analog plants, which tradition doesn't even apply to. Not to mention I'm quite sure DMT and Harmala concoctions, or at least Harmala and Shroom concoctions were at one time more global, i think people were using these things long before those in South America. I'm just saying, we shouldn't act like those in South America are the "chosen ones", Humans have used all sorts of plants throughout time all over the world, sure South America has some living tradition with some plants, but i don't think their way is the only or true way, like some people seem to think apparently.

I'm sure there are things the shamans in South America can do and it would be nice to witness that, one day, but as for going there to specifically drink Aya, i'd much rather take it or analog plants, or any Psychedelic/Entheogen for that matter on my own, and if i wanted to visit South America it'd be more to learn from their culture and traditions rather than to take the plants.





I agree. Thing we have to remember is that we in the west believed and practiced spiritual medicine ouselves but why go backwards now?

When taking ayahuasca or any psychedelic one will be highly suggestive to the influences of other people especially if such a person enters into the experience already believing that a shaman is some sort of soucerer with magical powers. Vulnerable people have ended up getting taken advange of by chaletans simply because they wanted and chose to believe that a stranger they had never met before was something more than what we are ourselves- normal human beings.

I wouldn't advise going to South America to take ayahuasca unless you are already experienced with it, as for me personally it's not the sort of thing I would want to do in a strange place with strange people, nor for that matter in a fricking jungle!

I'd love to do it in theory but something tells me I wouldn't enjoy it as aside from the set and setting, I would feel like I was being manipulated. My guess is that shamans employ techniques such as cold reading. Some do probably have a shit ton of knowledge about the jungle but why anyone would want to adopt the shamans magical belief system and then take the most powerful psychedelic know to man is beyond me. Searching for god I would guess- arguably what every dedicated psychonaught is subcociously doing.


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    #24020130 - 01/18/17 02:11 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

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Think of your psychedelic charge as an amount of fluid. The fluid naturally recharges itself, but after deeper and more intense trips, repeated over and over again, will deplete the fluid until it's completely gone. Then you try to trip and the engine starts, but without fluid, the car doesn't move.

We are out of fluid because we were driving the fuck out of those cars.






Somehow I don't think this is how it works...




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    #24021102 - 01/18/17 07:21 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

If your fluid doesn't replenish you're considered dead! :lol:


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    #24021143 - 01/18/17 07:35 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

I dunno, you could fry your serotonin system but might still get to live as a full retard :rofl:.


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    #24021327 - 01/18/17 08:32 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

Lmao


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    #24024389 - 01/19/17 10:26 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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Think of your psychedelic charge as an amount of fluid. The fluid naturally recharges itself, but after deeper and more intense trips, repeated over and over again, will deplete the fluid until it's completely gone. Then you try to trip and the engine starts, but without fluid, the car doesn't move.

We are out of fluid because we were driving the fuck out of those cars.






Somehow I don't think this is how it works...




Yah, that doesn't make sense. If your engine wouldn't start then you wouldn't be able to function. The engine isn't sitting there waiting for you to put drugs in it, it's always running.




It was a very shitty metaphor, written while way too stoned.

I'm just referring to tolerance. I was taking 3.5-8g of dried mushrooms every weekend for a year straight - sometimes going for a double-header. Towards the end of this journey, I was having to consume as much as 15g dried (not at all at once) to reach a "good trip," and these trips still didn't even come close to the trips I had at the beginning of the experiment, which were absolutely out of this world. Now, I, like the thread starter, have trouble reaching the psychedelic realm.

Last weekend, I attempted 5g dried and had a very troubling experience, which led to having a very very weak trip, with absolutely no "head space." However, as the week has gone on, in my every day waking life and working days, I've had very interesting flashes of the psychedelic realm. This is when white walls begin to spin and morph and flow, like they do during a psychedelic trip, and then just as suddenly stop. So fast it leaves you wondering if it even happened at all. But it definitely did. Because it happens again later that day. Or the colors in the sky just look a little bit too blue. Too beautiful to be just normal everyday blue. I've also experienced a severe uptick in my mood and demeanor toward my job and my co-workers.

This leads me to another possible theory. Long ago, when I first discovered the mushroom experience, I loudly and adamantly stated that I wished I could be "like this" all the time. Could my brain, which has been utilizing and realizing the potential uses of psilocybin, actually be storing it in my brain after consumption and then slowly leaking it back out to me, portioning it out and giving me a "week long trip"? This would explain the residual psychedelic visions, the increase in mood and the increase in every day "head space" (i.e. talking to myself extensively).

My point is that overall this past week has had me in an incredibly good mood, and I have to attribute it to the 5g of shrooms I ate the weekend prior, although I didn't even have what I would even properly classify as a "trip." And yet, throughout the week, in my every day sober life, I'm getting bits and pieces of the psychedelic experience which are bursting through into my regular existence.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24030105 - 01/22/17 10:16 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Update!.....


  Two friends ate from the most recent batch last night and both people were completely annihilated....

... it's clear to me that the mushrooms potency is absolutely sufficient.

  Like I thought. For whatever strange reason my brain will not allow me to trip on psilocybin currently!

  Crazy..... but all the evidence points that direction..:shrug::llamastare:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: HamHead]
    #24030147 - 01/22/17 10:30 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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    #24030159 - 01/22/17 10:33 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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You trip a lot from what I observe.







  I have been tripping every two weeks for 2 years. It was a regular thing but I don't think we were doing it too often. I feel like we were doing it about as much as we could while still respecting the trip. Two weeks to absorb and integrate before entering the next psychedelic Adventure...

  I know no one has an answer for me but it is so strange that my brain will not process psilocybin!....


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24030165 - 01/22/17 10:36 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

That is not the kind of trend to keep for 2 years though.

I just got back from reading another thread about someone who isn't affected by psilocybin anymore, you guys just need to calm down with tripping so much.


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    #24030182 - 01/22/17 10:47 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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That is not the kind of trend to keep for 2 years though.

I just got back from reading another thread about someone who isn't affected by psilocybin anymore, you guys just need to calm down with tripping so much.





... the crazy thing is is the trip just kept getting better and better even up to the point where we did it one week apart for a month and then went to the coast and did six and six and it was literally the greatest trip of Our Lives I mean totally f****** tripped out to the max!

... then the next time was literally nothing but the slightest body load for 20 minutes....

... I read the other thread and it sounds like a similar situation because LSD seems to work although I feel a tolerance on that as well..


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24030186 - 01/22/17 10:47 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Aya....:mindexpanding:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24030204 - 01/22/17 10:54 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

I mean ya I say go for ayahuasca but then again don't be surprised if it doesn't payoff either because it's really not that molecularly different from psilocin.

What about smoked DMT? Or 4-AcO-DMT?


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    #24030241 - 01/22/17 11:09 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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I mean ya I say go for ayahuasca but then again don't be surprised if it doesn't payoff either because it's really not that molecularly different from psilocin.

What about smoked DMT? Or 4-AcO-DMT?




... I got some smokable DMT but that s*** scared the f*** out of me. I want to find a nice moderate dose of
Aya that I can get into and have some good experiences....:firstladyofapproval:

  From what I've read there is no tolerance on ayahuasca...:shrug:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24030481 - 01/22/17 01:00 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Sounds to me like you need to lay off on the psychedelics a bit,
the solution isn't going 'higher', it's maintaining the same 'high' on the same doses.

which means taking psilocybin/lsd on a fewer occasions.
2 weeks of seperation at least between trips,
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    #24043068 - 01/27/17 07:00 AM (7 years, 3 days ago)

Hey Voodoo, just curious about your current progress. It's only been 2 weeks for me and I'm already thinking about trying again. Going to resist the urge and still aiming for 2 months of sobriety.

Definitely have been noticing continuous residual psychedelic visuals and thoughts in my every day sober life. Like for a few seconds entire walls will start to sway. Or I'll get really fun, awesome feeling head space for a few minutes out of nowhere and then just as quickly it goes away.  I can only assume this is months worth of residual integration taking place. Or my brain has literally been stockpiling psilocybin and is slowly giving it back to me, which would explain why i don't trip anymore, because I'm saving the psilocybin. Like a squirrel with nuts in his cheeks. Ha!


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: psilosalvia]
    #24043692 - 01/27/17 12:44 PM (7 years, 3 days ago)

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Sounds to me like you need to lay off on the psychedelics a bit,
the solution isn't going 'higher', it's maintaining the same 'high' on the same doses.

which means taking psilocybin/lsd on a fewer occasions.
2 weeks of seperation at least between trips,
healthier for the mind too IMO.




he's done exactly that for 2 years straight

OP I think that 6 hits of acid 6 of shrooms put your tolerance over the line for a long long time

Take a break and switch over to mescaline


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    #24046294 - 01/28/17 11:43 AM (7 years, 2 days ago)

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Hey Voodoo, just curious about your current progress. It's only been 2 weeks for me and I'm already thinking about trying again. Going to resist the urge and still aiming for 2 months of sobriety.

Definitely have been noticing continuous residual psychedelic visuals and thoughts in my every day sober life. Like for a few seconds entire walls will start to sway. Or I'll get really fun, awesome feeling head space for a few minutes out of nowhere and then just as quickly it goes away.  I can only assume this is months worth of residual integration taking place. Or my brain has literally been stockpiling psilocybin and is slowly giving it back to me, which would explain why i don't trip anymore, because I'm saving the psilocybin. Like a squirrel with nuts in his cheeks. Ha!





... same Bro....:pipesmoke:

  Just chillin' focusing on business and trying to work steady and build momentum.

  Committed to 2 months minimum... gotta do it! Not shure exactly how my brain broke in regards to psilocybin. And my Bro too?...same time?....we will never know why...just so fucking weird!:llamastare:

  Anyways... I have committed to Aya before trying shrooms again. So in 2-3 months I'm gonna try Aya and hopefully by summer the shrooms come back...L works buts it's just not what mushrooms deliver...and I shouldn't have to take 15 good hits to really "Trip"

  DADDY NEEDS A BREAK..:firstladyofapproval:

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    #24046300 - 01/28/17 11:46 AM (7 years, 2 days ago)

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Sounds to me like you need to lay off on the psychedelics a bit,
the solution isn't going 'higher', it's maintaining the same 'high' on the same doses.

which means taking psilocybin/lsd on a fewer occasions.
2 weeks of seperation at least between trips,
healthier for the mind too IMO.




he's done exactly that for 2 years straight

OP I think that 6 hits of acid 6 of shrooms put your tolerance over the line for a long long time

Take a break and switch over to mescaline




:awethumb: ...6n6 was rad! 9n9 had me questioning things..:vibin: LOL!


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24046587 - 01/28/17 02:16 PM (7 years, 2 days ago)

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WTF!:llamastare:


  ... well I tried the new batch and they didn't do anything for me either. So that's four attempts on mushrooms and nothing... it actually felt like it was coming on last night but then just dropped off...:smugjerry:

  It's super crazy that all the sudden my brain would just not allowed a hefty dose of mushrooms to have any effect at all. Even more strange is the fact that my bro and me have had the identical experiences each time and he can no longer get high on mushrooms either.... too weird!:wonka:


... I feel like they just shut down so that I will be pushed to do the Ayahuasca ....:vibin:





And yet another "I can't trip anymore" thread.  Is it just me or is one of these popping up every few days on the shroomery?

Sorry OP.  I'm having the same issue at the moment and I'm currently taking a break from all psychedelics. I've made it two month so far and I'm planning to go another 3 months before I try shrooms again.  Hopefully our issue is only temporary.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24046871 - 01/28/17 04:19 PM (7 years, 2 days ago)

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Hey Voodoo, just curious about your current progress. It's only been 2 weeks for me and I'm already thinking about trying again. Going to resist the urge and still aiming for 2 months of sobriety.

Definitely have been noticing continuous residual psychedelic visuals and thoughts in my every day sober life. Like for a few seconds entire walls will start to sway. Or I'll get really fun, awesome feeling head space for a few minutes out of nowhere and then just as quickly it goes away.  I can only assume this is months worth of residual integration taking place. Or my brain has literally been stockpiling psilocybin and is slowly giving it back to me, which would explain why i don't trip anymore, because I'm saving the psilocybin. Like a squirrel with nuts in his cheeks. Ha!





... same Bro....:pipesmoke:

  Just chillin' focusing on business and trying to work steady and build momentum.

  Committed to 2 months minimum... gotta do it! Not shure exactly how my brain broke in regards to psilocybin. And my Bro too?...same time?....we will never know why...just so fucking weird!:llamastare:

  Anyways... I have committed to Aya before trying shrooms again. So in 2-3 months I'm gonna try Aya and hopefully by summer the shrooms come back...L works buts it's just not what mushrooms deliver...and I shouldn't have to take 15 good hits to really "Trip"

  DADDY NEEDS A BREAK..:firstladyofapproval:

  ... stay in touch Bruddah!:bigyesnod:





You can trip on LSD but not mushrooms? I know you refuse to believe it but this just screams weak shrooms, especially if your brother can't either. It seems so obvious.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24048094 - 01/29/17 06:20 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

I can still trip on L too. But I don't have bunk shrooms. I've given them to friends and they deliver for them every time.


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    #24051097 - 01/30/17 09:28 AM (7 years, 15 hours ago)

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I can still trip on L too. But I don't have bunk shrooms. I've given them to friends and they deliver for them every time.



Thats what's up!.... crazy but true :mindexpanding:

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    #24051141 - 01/30/17 09:44 AM (7 years, 15 hours ago)

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I can still trip on L too. But I don't have bunk shrooms. I've given them to friends and they deliver for them every time.




Yeah that really makes no sense at all. Not saying I don't believe you but I can't even comprehend how that's actually the case.


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    #24051218 - 01/30/17 10:09 AM (7 years, 15 hours ago)

I don't believe him.


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    #24051263 - 01/30/17 10:20 AM (7 years, 14 hours ago)

That's what's up playboy... multiple people have tripped on all the duchess and the potency is nothing question and anyway. My God we've been through this dude let's agree to disagree and you can be on your way.:firstladyofapproval:

.. they trip and we don't trip and you don't just reach into a bag and grab all of the bunk mushrooms in your hand for some reason we've already been through that and the statistical probability is miniscule to say the least...

.... you can explain how I get zero and like 5 other people have  trip balls off of the same bag and if you think somehow they grab the good ones and I reach in and grab Nothing But Bunk mushrooms like 4 times? that's absolutely ridiculous...

  It's an anomally but it's in my head...not the shrooms....give it up dude...jeez..:llamastare:


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    #24051368 - 01/30/17 10:52 AM (7 years, 14 hours ago)

Well we agree to disagree. I don't think you're lying or being malicious, but I just don't believe you, it sounds so illogical to me. We have been over it and statistically I don't think it's that odd, you said yourself that you and your brother only ate a couple of large mushrooms, that narrows down the chances considerably. You also didn't say you experienced nothing, per your own description you had mild effects, that means weak, not totally bunk, that further increases the odds. I didn't see you mention the frequency of this either so tolerance may also be a factor. Keep in mind I'm also speaking from experience, I've tripped maybe a couple hundred times and had 3-5 trips that were either very weak or straight bunk, same circumstances as you, reached in a bag I and others have tripped from many times before and many times after. It undeniably happens, the question is if it happened to you.


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    #24051533 - 01/30/17 12:08 PM (7 years, 13 hours ago)

Never said we ate just large shrooms... mostly it's been small to medium size and one time I think I ate on that was like five grams....

  regardless these batches have all been found extremely potent by other people and also the people I work with are extremely reliable and not going to put bunk batches out cuz it's bad for them...

  The first thing I thought was potency but after much analysis I think it's clearly the other way...

  It's strange but true.... literally the most potent mushrooms I've ever eaten delivering trip after trip of over-the-top insanity...

  I've basically determined that I'll never come to a conclusion other than my brain broke.  I'm hopefully going to clear that up by taking some time off but only time will tell..


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24051711 - 01/30/17 01:06 PM (7 years, 12 hours ago)

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Never said we ate just large shrooms... mostly it's been small to medium size and one time I think I ate on that was like five grams....




You specifically said early on that your brother ate two single mushrooms.

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  .. and somehow my bro also grabbed two completely bunk mushrooms?





You also just said there was a time when you ate a single 5g mushroom. The less quantity of mushrooms that make up a dose the higher the chances are that you grab bunk ones.

I've explained how genetics work with mushrooms and that just because some or even most mushrooms from a batch are very potent has no baring on all the rest, potency from mushroom to mushroom does vary, and it can vary a lot.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24051905 - 01/30/17 02:27 PM (7 years, 10 hours ago)

voodoo is there any sort of dietary thing both you and your bro adopted about the same time - anything at all?????


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    #24051981 - 01/30/17 03:01 PM (7 years, 10 hours ago)

Never said we ate just large shrooms... mostly it's been small to medium size and one time I think I ate on that was like five grams....

  regardless these batches have all been found extremely potent by other people and also the people I work with are extremely reliable and not going to put bunk batches out cuz it's bad for them...

  The first thing I thought was potency but after much analysis I think it's clearly the other way...

  It's strange but true.... literally the most potent mushrooms I've ever eaten delivering trip after trip of over-the-top insanity...

  I've basically determined that I'll never come to a conclusion other than my brain broke.  I'm hopefully going to clear that up by taking some time off but only time will tell..
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Never said we ate just large shrooms... mostly it's been small to medium size and one time I think I ate on that was like five grams....




You specifically said early on that your brother ate two single mushrooms.

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  .. and somehow my bro also grabbed two completely bunk mushrooms?





You also just said there was a time when you ate a single 5g mushroom. The less quantity of mushrooms that make up a dose the higher the chances are that you grab bunk ones.

I've explained how genetics work with mushrooms and that just because some or even most mushrooms from a batch are very potent has no baring on all the rest, potency from mushroom to mushroom does vary, and it can vary a lot.




...I think that's a typo...I would have to see whole post... but seriously bro it isn't like we are just eating big mushrooms actually the cyans were bunch of smaller ones and all of them were mostly medium and it was always a mix sometimes we just did  little s*** from the bottom which usually gets us totally Rocked....I agree it's crazy..... but potency seems to work for like 8 other people....multiple batches.... and I personally have never experienced any variance trip to  trip on the same batch and all of my previous mushroom experiences.... I feel like the whole experience has ruled out the idea that it's a potency issue...:shrug:


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    #24051990 - 01/30/17 03:05 PM (7 years, 10 hours ago)

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voodoo is there any sort of dietary thing both you and your bro adopted about the same time - anything at all?????





  Nothing Bro.... I'm basically going with sometime form of long-term tolerance... it's just crazy that we ate them and nothing then a few days later three friends ate from the same bag and got their faces melted off...:vibin:

  Hopefully the break clerk things up.... I mean we were questioning being able to do like 10 grams of these mushrooms again they were so potent. So the idea of having to do a half ounce or something of these mushrooms that get off is absolutely ridiculous... and I honestly don't think eating a bunch more would really do anything other than maybe ramp up that mild come up feeling a little bit. Cuz 1 x 0 equal 0 and 10 x 0 equal 0....


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24052490 - 01/30/17 06:15 PM (7 years, 7 hours ago)

Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.


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    #24052526 - 01/30/17 06:30 PM (7 years, 6 hours ago)

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Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.



:facepalm: jesus dude i was one to eat out of the same bag and tripped the fuck out. I know voodoo personally and im telling you potency is not the issue. Yeah there is no possible way to know alkaloid content but these shrooms are anything but impotent.


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    #24052533 - 01/30/17 06:32 PM (7 years, 6 hours ago)

Try 4-AcO-DMT


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24052899 - 01/30/17 08:48 PM (7 years, 4 hours ago)

Voodoo this is really weird, as you said.  What kind of doses have you done when this has been happening?  Maybe an extra large helping will help ya out?  :zombie2:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24053621 - 01/31/17 06:46 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Hey Voodoo, just curious about your current progress. It's only been 2 weeks for me and I'm already thinking about trying again. Going to resist the urge and still aiming for 2 months of sobriety.

Definitely have been noticing continuous residual psychedelic visuals and thoughts in my every day sober life. Like for a few seconds entire walls will start to sway. Or I'll get really fun, awesome feeling head space for a few minutes out of nowhere and then just as quickly it goes away.  I can only assume this is months worth of residual integration taking place. Or my brain has literally been stockpiling psilocybin and is slowly giving it back to me, which would explain why i don't trip anymore, because I'm saving the psilocybin. Like a squirrel with nuts in his cheeks. Ha!





... same Bro....:pipesmoke:

  Just chillin' focusing on business and trying to work steady and build momentum.

  Committed to 2 months minimum... gotta do it! Not shure exactly how my brain broke in regards to psilocybin. And my Bro too?...same time?....we will never know why...just so fucking weird!:llamastare:

  Anyways... I have committed to Aya before trying shrooms again. So in 2-3 months I'm gonna try Aya and hopefully by summer the shrooms come back...L works buts it's just not what mushrooms deliver...and I shouldn't have to take 15 good hits to really "Trip"

  DADDY NEEDS A BREAK..:firstladyofapproval:

  ... stay in touch Bruddah!:bigyesnod:





You can trip on LSD but not mushrooms? I know you refuse to believe it but this just screams weak shrooms, especially if your brother can't either. It seems so obvious.




I'm sorry man, but do you know any other songs? It seems like you can only play this one note of, bad shrooms, even when both myself and the thread starter have stated repeatedly that it is absolutely nothing to do with the potency of the shrooms. I have performed several tests using other trusted trippers, other shrooms, various controls. This is an issue with how the brain and conscious are handling the input of psilocybin, an adverse reaction due to overuse.

Perhaps you cannot comprehend this concept because you have never experienced it. But your repeated comments about "bad shrooms" do nothing to push forward the topic of conversation. My two cents of course.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24053623 - 01/31/17 06:53 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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That's what's up playboy... multiple people have tripped on all the duchess and the potency is nothing question and anyway. My God we've been through this dude let's agree to disagree and you can be on your way.:firstladyofapproval:

.. they trip and we don't trip and you don't just reach into a bag and grab all of the bunk mushrooms in your hand for some reason we've already been through that and the statistical probability is miniscule to say the least...

.... you can explain how I get zero and like 5 other people have  trip balls off of the same bag and if you think somehow they grab the good ones and I reach in and grab Nothing But Bunk mushrooms like 4 times? that's absolutely ridiculous...

  It's an anomally but it's in my head...not the shrooms....give it up dude...jeez..:llamastare:





Seriously! What is this guy's deal? "I don't believe you"? Like there's some reason to lie? Shut up about bad shrooms. We've passed that juncture. Add something progressive to the topic, or just don't. Stop retracing sullied grounds.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24053724 - 01/31/17 08:16 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.





We allways grind.... lemon tek...:firstladyofapproval:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LincolnCityTripper]
    #24053728 - 01/31/17 08:17 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.



:facepalm: jesus dude i was one to eat out of the same bag and tripped the fuck out. I know voodoo personally and im telling you potency is not the issue. Yeah there is no possible way to know alkaloid content but these shrooms are anything but impotent.





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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24053730 - 01/31/17 08:18 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Try 4-AcO-DMT



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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24053742 - 01/31/17 08:24 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Voodoo this is really weird, as you said.  What kind of doses have you done when this has been happening?  Maybe an extra large helping will help ya out?  :zombie2:




...5-6 grams.... which is pretty much where I was at when the mushrooms were working so no real changes there... we have considered taking a much larger dose like a half ounce but it just seems ridiculous. These mushrooms Rock our world at six Greyhounds and the idea that I would have to eat a half ounce to trip is just over the top...

  Is very little as I felt on five grams I'm not sure if 15 is going to be that much different and maybe just a waste of shrooms...:shrug:

  It's an option...

  Like I said. I'm going to take two months off then do ayahuasca then I'll try to shrooms after that somewhere around the two and a half to three month mark... I really hope the magic returns...:mindexpanding:

  I really find this situation very interesting and inexplicable... it sucks that I can't enjoy shrooms but hopefully with some time off it will come back. I feel this is a real Enigma for the shroomery and I welcome any and all feedback..:awethumb:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24053746 - 01/31/17 08:25 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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That's what's up playboy... multiple people have tripped on all the duchess and the potency is nothing question and anyway. My God we've been through this dude let's agree to disagree and you can be on your way.:firstladyofapproval:

.. they trip and we don't trip and you don't just reach into a bag and grab all of the bunk mushrooms in your hand for some reason we've already been through that and the statistical probability is miniscule to say the least...

.... you can explain how I get zero and like 5 other people have  trip balls off of the same bag and if you think somehow they grab the good ones and I reach in and grab Nothing But Bunk mushrooms like 4 times? that's absolutely ridiculous...

  It's an anomally but it's in my head...not the shrooms....give it up dude...jeez..:llamastare:





Seriously! What is this guy's deal? "I don't believe you"? Like there's some reason to lie? Shut up about bad shrooms. We've passed that juncture. Add something progressive to the topic, or just don't. Stop retracing sullied grounds.




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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24053753 - 01/31/17 08:28 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

It's crazy strange!


.. as of now the only reasonable explanation is somehow not only my brain but my friends brain broke at the same time and we are  literally able to take a solid to whopping dose of psilocybin and our brains just shut it down and don't allow it to happen...

....it's an Enigma!.....:llamastare:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24053792 - 01/31/17 08:44 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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It's crazy strange!


.. as of now the only reasonable explanation is somehow not only my brain but my friends brain broke at the same time and we are  literally able to take a solid to whopping dose of psilocybin and our brains just shut it down and don't allow it to happen...

....it's an Enigma!.....:llamastare:




How have you felt these past 3 weeks? Good, bad? Better than normal?

Personally, I've been in the best mood these past 3 weeks. I feel more sure of myself, my life, my decisions and my spirituality than i ever have before. I even had a fight with my best friend, who, because of his basically straight edge wife, has stopped doing psychedelics and seems to have taken a stance against me doing them as well. But instead of this fight sending me into depression over this now damaged friendship, I've been very accepting of this reality and see it as more spiritual growth in the right direction.

I also have been experiencing open eyed visuals and increased visual contrast at irregular points in my day, usually after smoking weed. This is coupled with an increase in mood, laughing and generally crazy fun thoughts.

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LincolnCityTripper]
    #24053868 - 01/31/17 09:16 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.



:facepalm: jesus dude i was one to eat out of the same bag and tripped the fuck out. I know voodoo personally and im telling you potency is not the issue. Yeah there is no possible way to know alkaloid content but these shrooms are anything but impotent.




The fact that you still think it means anything that you've eaten out of the same bag and tripped means nothing. I've explained very clearly how mushrooms work and you seem unable to grasp that. It's an incredibly simple concept. Do you have a learning disorder or is it just a mental block of some sort?


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Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.





We allways grind.... lemon tek...:firstladyofapproval:




You mix all of your mushrooms together and grind them up, then split them among whoever? Or you grind up your individual shrooms? "We always grind" goes very counter to "My brother ate two large mushrooms" and another time "I ate a single 5 gram mushroom." You said this has happened five times, there's two instances right there.

Your story keeps changing, it never made sense to begin with, and you've been hostile from the very beginning as if you feel a need to defend your position rather than figure it out. It actually seems as though your ego is intimately entwined with the potency of your mushrooms, which could explain why there's so much over compensation going on.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24054025 - 01/31/17 10:13 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Seriously bro?

What is your problem?

Actually, your problem is quite clear and is simply one of ego. What we are going through and talking about is a foreign concept to you. Thus, you have absolutely nothing to contribute to the conversation. Nothing. So, instead you try to overpower the direction of the thread into an area that you do understand, in this way you can be part of the group. But it is not working because your direction is not the direction of the thread. Understand?

I imagine you have these kinds of contrasting, argumentative, yet utterly pointless interactions in your every day real life. Those who must interact with you consider you an annoying know it all, one to be avoided in conversation.

Any of this getting through?

Maybe I'm wrong. Itd be great if you proved me wrong but ending this ridiculous continuity of trying to tell me and voodoo what is going on with OUR minds and OUR experiences.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24054031 - 01/31/17 10:15 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry if that was too harsh. But there is a difference between shit and shinola.


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    #24054303 - 01/31/17 11:48 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I stopped commenting on this thread awhile back because it devolved into OP insulting me and ignoring what I was saying, it seemed pointless. I only commented again because he made mention that he can trip on LSD (though I swear earlier on he said he could not, and my response then was 'weak lsd,' what changed there?). So I was like, "hey man, I know this was glaringly obvious before, but now that you're throwing this out there just look at the facts, it's smacking you in the face right now.' It devolved into him hurling insults and contradictions again, so w/e, you can't convince someone who's story constantly changes to suit their ideas.

I feel like I'm the only one offering anything resembling an idea at this point. Yeah, my idea hasn't changed, but I also don't see it being proven wrong other than OP repeatedly insisting that's not the case w/o any controlled tests to demonstrate otherwise. Why would he even be opposed to that if he actually wanted to figure this out? You have to admit that on the outset it sounds pretty ridiculous at least, right? He can trip on w/e, has no cognitive deficits, yet in the one drug that does vary in potency quite a bit, regardless if it's placed in the same bag, a lunchbox, or a shoe, came from the same patch or not, and I do have personal experience of that as I've stated multiple times, him and his brother experience mild effects. Should I just join in the rabble and for another 5 pages go, 'yah, that's weird man, strange?'

This seems like we're on a ship taking on water and I'm like, 'There's probably a breach in the hull somewhere down below,' and OP is like, 'No, I asked the guy in the engine room and he said he didn't see anything.' I insist, 'No, water doesn't just seep through a solid steel hull, there MUST be a breach.' OP, then standing in water, gets furious and tells me I'm an asshole, his ship is stable and has always been stable, it's not sinking, it must just be raining and we can't see it or something unexplainable and the other crew members petition to lock me in the brig for not trying to think of irrational theories instead of wanting to rule out the most logical cause first.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24054371 - 01/31/17 12:14 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Voodoo this is really weird, as you said.  What kind of doses have you done when this has been happening?  Maybe an extra large helping will help ya out?  :zombie2:




...5-6 grams.... which is pretty much where I was at when the mushrooms were working so no real changes there... we have considered taking a much larger dose like a half ounce but it just seems ridiculous. These mushrooms Rock our world at six Greyhounds and the idea that I would have to eat a half ounce to trip is just over the top...

  Is very little as I felt on five grams I'm not sure if 15 is going to be that much different and maybe just a waste of shrooms...:shrug:

  It's an option...




Why not just try a larger dose - your comfort zone moves around and yours may have ratcheted up to 10g or so.  With mad tolerance from daily use I get up to 225g fresh (and that's with potent shrooms), it doesn't hurt anything to try.  If you get a breakthrough you can renegotiate the terms of your mushroom relationship and get back on the even keel I bet ya.  You oughta be growing them then you don't ever think "waste of shrooms" you just think "what do I need to really trip today?"  Whole different world.  :laugh2:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24054399 - 01/31/17 12:26 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.



:facepalm: jesus dude i was one to eat out of the same bag and tripped the fuck out. I know voodoo personally and im telling you potency is not the issue. Yeah there is no possible way to know alkaloid content but these shrooms are anything but impotent.




The fact that you still think it means anything that you've eaten out of the same bag and tripped means nothing. I've explained very clearly how mushrooms work and you seem unable to grasp that. It's an incredibly simple concept. Do you have a learning disorder or is it just a mental block of some sort?


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Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.





We allways grind.... lemon tek...:firstladyofapproval:




You mix all of your mushrooms together and grind them up, then split them among whoever? Or you grind up your individual shrooms? "We always grind" goes very counter to "My brother ate two large mushrooms" and another time "I ate a single 5 gram mushroom." You said this has happened five times, there's two instances right there.

Your story keeps changing, it never made sense to begin with, and you've been hostile from the very beginning as if you feel a need to defend your position rather than figure it out. It actually seems as though your ego is intimately entwined with the potency of your mushrooms, which could explain why there's so much over compensation going on.





  ....try not to be a dick dude:wonka:

    I'm not going over it again... DEAL WITH IT....it's not the potency!... it's just not...have a good day and I don't need your bullshit accusations....KICK ROCKS..:firstladyofapproval::bigyesnod:


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    #24054411 - 01/31/17 12:28 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Voodoo this is really weird, as you said.  What kind of doses have you done when this has been happening?  Maybe an extra large helping will help ya out?  :zombie2:




...5-6 grams.... which is pretty much where I was at when the mushrooms were working so no real changes there... we have considered taking a much larger dose like a half ounce but it just seems ridiculous. These mushrooms Rock our world at six Greyhounds and the idea that I would have to eat a half ounce to trip is just over the top...

  Is very little as I felt on five grams I'm not sure if 15 is going to be that much different and maybe just a waste of shrooms...:shrug:

  It's an option...




Why not just try a larger dose - your comfort zone moves around and yours may have ratcheted up to 10g or so.  With mad tolerance from daily use I get up to 225g fresh (and that's with potent shrooms), it doesn't hurt anything to try.  If you get a breakthrough you can renegotiate the terms of your mushroom relationship and get back on the even keel I bet ya.  You oughta be growing them then you don't ever think "waste of shrooms" you just think "what do I need to really trip today?"  Whole different world.  :laugh2:





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Hmmmmmm... interesting concept :wonka:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24054438 - 01/31/17 12:41 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Voodoo this is really weird, as you said.  What kind of doses have you done when this has been happening?  Maybe an extra large helping will help ya out?  :zombie2:




...5-6 grams.... which is pretty much where I was at when the mushrooms were working so no real changes there... we have considered taking a much larger dose like a half ounce but it just seems ridiculous. These mushrooms Rock our world at six Greyhounds and the idea that I would have to eat a half ounce to trip is just over the top...

  Is very little as I felt on five grams I'm not sure if 15 is going to be that much different and maybe just a waste of shrooms...:shrug:

  It's an option...




Why not just try a larger dose - your comfort zone moves around and yours may have ratcheted up to 10g or so.  With mad tolerance from daily use I get up to 225g fresh (and that's with potent shrooms), it doesn't hurt anything to try.  If you get a breakthrough you can renegotiate the terms of your mushroom relationship and get back on the even keel I bet ya.  You oughta be growing them then you don't ever think "waste of shrooms" you just think "what do I need to really trip today?"  Whole different world.  :laugh2:




Get out of here with your rational ideas, we're having none of that! OP is special and there's nothing you can do to change that!


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24054617 - 01/31/17 01:56 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Voodoo this is really weird, as you said.  What kind of doses have you done when this has been happening?  Maybe an extra large helping will help ya out?  :zombie2:




...5-6 grams.... which is pretty much where I was at when the mushrooms were working so no real changes there... we have considered taking a much larger dose like a half ounce but it just seems ridiculous. These mushrooms Rock our world at six Greyhounds and the idea that I would have to eat a half ounce to trip is just over the top...

  Is very little as I felt on five grams I'm not sure if 15 is going to be that much different and maybe just a waste of shrooms...:shrug:

  It's an option...




Why not just try a larger dose - your comfort zone moves around and yours may have ratcheted up to 10g or so.  With mad tolerance from daily use I get up to 225g fresh (and that's with potent shrooms), it doesn't hurt anything to try.  If you get a breakthrough you can renegotiate the terms of your mushroom relationship and get back on the even keel I bet ya.  You oughta be growing them then you don't ever think "waste of shrooms" you just think "what do I need to really trip today?"  Whole different world.  :laugh2:





..

Hmmmmmm... interesting concept :wonka:




If you mean what I think you mean - I've had times when the mushrooms seemed reluctant to let me in, so to speak, and that almost always went along with times when I was consuming a lot.  Growing helps because then you're responsible for their well being and they get that.  If you can manage to get a connection again (think phone going offline) you can send your happy vibes down it and they up the power.  I know this sounds implausible etc etc but so much about hyperspatial realms and the mushroom potentiation of them is utterly implausible to start with that you have to really look at it from this different perspective in order to see it at all.  I can always tell when the connection is strong though it's just like going home.  :thumbup:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24054635 - 01/31/17 02:00 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Get out of here with your rational ideas, we're having none of that! OP is special and there's nothing you can do to change that!




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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24054659 - 01/31/17 02:08 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Voodoo this is really weird, as you said.  What kind of doses have you done when this has been happening?  Maybe an extra large helping will help ya out?  :zombie2:




...5-6 grams.... which is pretty much where I was at when the mushrooms were working so no real changes there... we have considered taking a much larger dose like a half ounce but it just seems ridiculous. These mushrooms Rock our world at six Greyhounds and the idea that I would have to eat a half ounce to trip is just over the top...

  Is very little as I felt on five grams I'm not sure if 15 is going to be that much different and maybe just a waste of shrooms...:shrug:

  It's an option...




Why not just try a larger dose - your comfort zone moves around and yours may have ratcheted up to 10g or so.  With mad tolerance from daily use I get up to 225g fresh (and that's with potent shrooms), it doesn't hurt anything to try.  If you get a breakthrough you can renegotiate the terms of your mushroom relationship and get back on the even keel I bet ya.  You oughta be growing them then you don't ever think "waste of shrooms" you just think "what do I need to really trip today?"  Whole different world.  :laugh2:




Already tried this. Increased dosage led to more of the same but on a more intense and frustrating level.

The time i attempted to eat 15g dry, i had a complete mental breakdown coupled with such intense paranoia that i thought men were waiting for me outside my house, ready to take me away for thought crimes, and even the break down didn't yield the kind of mushroom experience you would expect from 15g dried.

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24054677 - 01/31/17 02:15 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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I stopped commenting on this thread awhile back because it devolved into OP insulting me and ignoring what I was saying, it seemed pointless. I only commented again because he made mention that he can trip on LSD (though I swear earlier on he said he could not, and my response then was 'weak lsd,' what changed there?). So I was like, "hey man, I know this was glaringly obvious before, but now that you're throwing this out there just look at the facts, it's smacking you in the face right now.' It devolved into him hurling insults and contradictions again, so w/e, you can't convince someone who's story constantly changes to suit their ideas.

I feel like I'm the only one offering anything resembling an idea at this point. Yeah, my idea hasn't changed, but I also don't see it being proven wrong other than OP repeatedly insisting that's not the case w/o any controlled tests to demonstrate otherwise. Why would he even be opposed to that if he actually wanted to figure this out? You have to admit that on the outset it sounds pretty ridiculous at least, right? He can trip on w/e, has no cognitive deficits, yet in the one drug that does vary in potency quite a bit, regardless if it's placed in the same bag, a lunchbox, or a shoe, came from the same patch or not, and I do have personal experience of that as I've stated multiple times, him and his brother experience mild effects. Should I just join in the rabble and for another 5 pages go, 'yah, that's weird man, strange?'

This seems like we're on a ship taking on water and I'm like, 'There's probably a breach in the hull somewhere down below,' and OP is like, 'No, I asked the guy in the engine room and he said he didn't see anything.' I insist, 'No, water doesn't just seep through a solid steel hull, there MUST be a breach.' OP, then standing in water, gets furious and tells me I'm an asshole, his ship is stable and has always been stable, it's not sinking, it must just be raining and we can't see it or something unexplainable and the other crew members petition to lock me in the brig for not trying to think of irrational theories instead of wanting to rule out the most logical cause first.




I can't speak for the op. I can only speak for myself, as i am going through the same thing he is. I have performed multiple tests, using trusted friends, other mushrooms, different methods of ingestion, different amounts, different settings. I kept a journal of my psychedelic missions.

I know without question that my batch is not bad or of low potency. I have also tested several other batches from trusted sources with the exact same results.

The whole thing is also bleeding into my everyday sober life, which I've mentioned numerous times, but no one seems to be able to relate. This leads me to believe that what is happening to me is a very personal thing. Something insight from external sources cannot unravel or understand.

But the one thing i know for sure is that the shrooms are good. Because the shrooms haven't changed. It's me who has changed.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24054771 - 01/31/17 02:47 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, this thread is still going. :facepalm: :gethigh: let it go..


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24054776 - 01/31/17 02:50 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Like I said I dropped out of this thread for awhile so maybe I missed something, but what exactly is going on with you? You say you're experiencing the same thing as OP, but per your previous post it really doesn't sound similar at all.

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Already tried this. Increased dosage led to more of the same but on a more intense and frustrating level.

The time i attempted to eat 15g dry, i had a complete mental breakdown coupled with such intense paranoia that i thought men were waiting for me outside my house, ready to take me away for thought crimes, and even the break down didn't yield the kind of mushroom experience you would expect from 15g dried.

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OP claims he can't trip at all (ignoring his description of typical mild effects in the beginning of the thread, such as one might experience from tolerance or a weak dose). This description however sounds like you're tripping your NUTS off. I'd like to hear from you, but based on these last two posts it sounds like you're all together tripping and getting full effects from mushrooms, the trips are simply different from previous trips, not what you're looking for, and thus not enjoyable. Is this a correct assumption?

If so that's very normal and not at all the same as what OP claims, which is that he is entirely immune to mushrooms (and previously LSD). This sounds more like a bad set and/or setting that the mushrooms are amplifying, not that they're not affecting you. For you to be paranoid out of your mind they're surely doing something.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24054902 - 01/31/17 03:33 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Already tried this. Increased dosage led to more of the same but on a more intense and frustrating level.

The time i attempted to eat 15g dry, i had a complete mental breakdown coupled with such intense paranoia that i thought men were waiting for me outside my house, ready to take me away for thought crimes, and even the break down didn't yield the kind of mushroom experience you would expect from 15g dried.

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Was talking to voodoo but whatever.  Tea is far better than dried especially for high doses.  But individual tolerances vary and change sometimes. :shrug:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24055244 - 01/31/17 05:50 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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If so that's very normal and not at all the same as what OP claims, which is that he is entirely immune to mushrooms (and previously LSD). This sounds more like a bad set and/or setting that the mushrooms are amplifying, not that they're not affecting you. For you to be paranoid out of your mind they're surely doing something.




I've had trips like this with zero visuals. Plausible.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: SizlChest]
    #24055298 - 01/31/17 06:07 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24055419 - 01/31/17 06:47 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Like I said I dropped out of this thread for awhile so maybe I missed something, but what exactly is going on with you? You say you're experiencing the same thing as OP, but per your previous post it really doesn't sound similar at all.

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Already tried this. Increased dosage led to more of the same but on a more intense and frustrating level.

The time i attempted to eat 15g dry, i had a complete mental breakdown coupled with such intense paranoia that i thought men were waiting for me outside my house, ready to take me away for thought crimes, and even the break down didn't yield the kind of mushroom experience you would expect from 15g dried.

The mind is sending a message. Stop. Integrate. Return when the seasons change.




OP claims he can't trip at all (ignoring his description of typical mild effects in the beginning of the thread, such as one might experience from tolerance or a weak dose). This description however sounds like you're tripping your NUTS off. I'd like to hear from you, but based on these last two posts it sounds like you're all together tripping and getting full effects from mushrooms, the trips are simply different from previous trips, not what you're looking for, and thus not enjoyable. Is this a correct assumption?

If so that's very normal and not at all the same as what OP claims, which is that he is entirely immune to mushrooms (and previously LSD). This sounds more like a bad set and/or setting that the mushrooms are amplifying, not that they're not affecting you. For you to be paranoid out of your mind they're surely doing something.




I posted a long thread about my experiences awhile back. I'll save you the read and give you the gist:

- Been using approximately 3g-6g psilocybin mushrooms 3-4 times per month since February 2016. Experienced mind-bending, life-changing, absolutely incredible trips that have completely and totally changed my mind and my life for the better.

About 3 months ago, this started happening:

I take my dosage of mushrooms, the usual tension and energy spike and slight bit of nausea occurs - everything going as planned. But then, at the moment when the breakthrough into the "shroom zone" should occur... it doesn't. I find myself lucid, with all of the visuals of the psychedelic trip occurring within my field of vision, but none of what I refer to as the "head-space," or what I have heard other people refer to as "mindfuck." I am completely sober, but my vision is tripping.

This happened to me several times. I was once about to achieve a level 3 trip after eating 10g dried in 3 doses, but the trip only lasted about 3 hours and ended rather abruptly.

I had the mental breakdown trip on Christmas Eve. But subsequent trips after that resulted in a completely sober feeling, with some visuals. I have tried other shrooms from different sources, my friend has eaten my grown shrooms and tripped balls.

I believe this is simply a tolerance issue. I'm already 3 weeks clean.


HOWEVER! My main reason for posting ANYTHING about this on the Shroomery was because I wanted to discuss the very interesting side effects I've been experiencing for the past 3 weeks of sobriety. For example, no more than 15 minutes ago, sitting in my bedroom watching TV and eating dinner, I suddenly felt like I was tripping. Intense contrast on all objects, a strange floating sensation coming from various light sources, an increase in mood, a smile on my face - so much like a shot of psilocybin to the brain. But how? Could it be stored in my system somehow?

I want to know what is happening to me. In the beginning of this whole thing, I made one wish. That life could be more like it is when you're tripping. Could I have achieved this?


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24055536 - 01/31/17 07:21 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I'm Voodoo's friend who has been tripping with him every couple weeks and has also experienced this sudden loss of reliability in our experiences. We have all put a lot of thought into analyzing this apparent anomaly and I think we can all agree to chalking it up to a few simple factors.

To make easy sense of this whole scenario I must briefly go over the ~facts~

On Sept 13 we went to Bend for the TTB show (phenomenal) and on our way back ate 9 grams of cubes and 9 drops of L and got overwhelmed (phucked) -vomiting, confusion and layed the fuck out.

Two weeks later (Sept 28) we did 7 grams cubes and 7 drops L (awesome, epic, no problems)

One week later (Oct 5 or 6) we did 15 hits L, I did five hits 50 minutes after doing ten hits aaaand it was a little too much what with distressing mindloops and L cramps. (little overwhelming, but very trippy)

Two weeks later (Oct 19) we did 7 grams cubes and 7 drops liquid and it was completely awesome and deep and fun sacred and blissful and everything you would want from that dose.

One week later (Oct 26) 7 and 7 again but better

One week later (Nov 2) 7 and 7 again but even better

One week later ( Nov 9)  7 and 7 again but even fucking better!

~Two weeks later (Nov 22) we did 6 and 6 at the Oregon coast and it was the most I had ever gotten out of the combination of L and fungus. It was- in a word- excellent. The experience left me very euphoric and optimistic.

Five days later (Nov 27) we smoked big hits of DMT. It was seriously intense and at points of our short experiences we felt like it was too much.

Ten~ish days later (Dec 7 or 8) we ate 5.5 grams each of cyans and felt EXTREMELY underwhelmed, so we did a bunch of L to get the most out of it after about two hours. And so began the stimulated over-analysis of why the shrooms didn't do it.

After that we tried the "ol reliable" cubes twice and a new batch of cubes once and had the same experiences- until we took more L at which point we mostly got what we needed from the experiences. Each try we only did 5.5 grams of fungus and we never waited more than two weeks.  After none of those trips went how we felt they used to or should have we did a trip using just L- 16 hits each, again only mostly getting us "there". :feelssadman: 

The whole time all my friends are taking the fungus and hits and saying that it's the best shit there has ever been so the potency is once and for all JUST AS POTENT AS THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN. There are probably stronger shrooms out there but these ones are pretty fucking mean.
So, obviously, we have tolerance.  :yougoodjob:

And maybe it's not so sudden either. Taking the two psychadelics in tandem and not expecting any problems led to- no problems. We were taking huge doses and getting used to it without noticing I think. Perhaps doing the cyans by themselves allowed us to see that we weren't getting as much as we could out of fungus. Perhaps doing the DMT inbetween out bi-weekly routine threw off our tolerances a little bit too.
MAYBE going from 6 grams of potent cubes AND 6 drops potent liquid to just 5.5 grams of questionable cyans is just a less intense trip?

The truth is only time will tell what's going on with us and if we will get better. What we have learned from this experience is this- doing mushrooms and LSD every two weeks just to do mushrooms and LSD takes something special out of doing mushrooms and LSD. We will plan more special experiences more far apart and maybe have more solo experinces each so we don't have our psychadelic menstrel cycles line up again  :whoak:

Alternative theories: mushroom gods shut us down for our own good,
The Jan Hammer Effect finally set in,
Too much Mahavishnus aaaaand
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: SpinzMcGrinz]
    #24055565 - 01/31/17 07:29 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: SizlChest]
    #24055602 - 01/31/17 07:40 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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If so that's very normal and not at all the same as what OP claims, which is that he is entirely immune to mushrooms (and previously LSD). This sounds more like a bad set and/or setting that the mushrooms are amplifying, not that they're not affecting you. For you to be paranoid out of your mind they're surely doing something.




I've had trips like this with zero visuals. Plausible.




Been there done that more than a few times. It takes all sorts of forms and all sorts out of interesting delusions.

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About 3 months ago, this started happening:

I take my dosage of mushrooms, the usual tension and energy spike and slight bit of nausea occurs - everything going as planned. But then, at the moment when the breakthrough into the "shroom zone" should occur... it doesn't. I find myself lucid, with all of the visuals of the psychedelic trip occurring within my field of vision, but none of what I refer to as the "head-space," or what I have heard other people refer to as "mindfuck." I am completely sober, but my vision is tripping.





Yeah, I know what that's like.  It takes all sorts of forms, like I said.

I've even had the totally weird experience of being totally "locked out" - sober as a judge, waiting, waiting, waiting and then - literally in the blink of an eye - something shifted inside my head and I was full on tripping balls.

Hard/impossible to explain rationally, but there it is. 

Sometimes ya get on the magic bus and sometimes the bus turns ya into roadkill.  :shrug:

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The truth is only time will tell what's going on with us and if we will get better. What we have learned from this experience is this- doing mushrooms and LSD every two weeks just to do mushrooms and LSD takes something special out of doing mushrooms and LSD.




Maybe there's some sort of weird cross effect doing the two together so much. It's like the only common thread here between both experiences.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24055722 - 01/31/17 08:11 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Just walking in during the middle of a movie

in the past I've gone through too many trips in too short a time, and the effects of mushrooms became almost nonexistent, just uncomfortable.  then I had some DOB and it sent me flying, same with LSD.  had some great trips with LSD which never lost its effectiveness, but after a long time of doing that and having the occasional functional mushroom trip, I experienced severe instability which led to speech deficiencies and confusing babble for up to a year for the worst of it.  I can't even scratch the surface of the multitude of internal processes which were opened up for me to fiddle with and were fucked up by my careless misunderstanding of the gravity of the situation.  I regained functionality within a few months and from my own perspective I returned slowly to my previously intact personality/mental healthiness over the course of several years, during which I had around 4-8 trips per year with DMT, mushrooms, seeds, and cacti.  I'm no poster child for making the healthiest decisions but it hasn't really eroded my awareness of what's going on, at least not that I'm aware of.:smirk:

TL;DR - if you're at the point where mushrooms are no longer affecting you, it's potentially more serious than you think it is, and continuing to trip using substances which break past the psilocin tolerance is probably not very healthy for you, despite frequent messages of calm reassurance that psychedelics are harmless.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Achuma]
    #24056617 - 02/01/17 08:43 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Having heard more of the story now, both you guys (meaning OP, his friend, and the other guy) seem to have an issue of tolerance to me. That's a LOT of mushrooms (and L) in a fairly frequent time. Tolerance normally only lasts a week or so, but with that much it may last longer and then add in essentially tripping every week or two tops for awhile and that could definitely explain it. That's the most logical explanation. If you just look at the dosage it makes sense too.

You went from having a good trip on 6g mushrooms and 6 drops L to just barely having a satisfactory trip with 15 hits of L and another time a mild trip with 5.5g of mushrooms (albeit cyans), that seems like a progressive gain in tolerance to me. You also have to consider that while your receptors may have fully recovered and you have no physical tolerance if it's still fresh on the brain you may remember it and have a mental tolerance which is the same reason any activity becomes boring when doing it frequently enough.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24056813 - 02/01/17 10:10 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Having heard more of the story now, both you guys (meaning OP, his friend, and the other guy) seem to have an issue of tolerance to me. That's a LOT of mushrooms (and L) in a fairly frequent time. Tolerance normally only lasts a week or so, but with that much it may last longer and then add in essentially tripping every week or two tops for awhile and that could definitely explain it. That's the most logical explanation. If you just look at the dosage it makes sense too.

You went from having a good trip on 6g mushrooms and 6 drops L to just barely having a satisfactory trip with 15 hits of L and another time a mild trip with 5.5g of mushrooms (albeit cyans), that seems like a progressive gain in tolerance to me. You also have to consider that while your receptors may have fully recovered and you have no physical tolerance if it's still fresh on the brain you may remember it and have a mental tolerance which is the same reason any activity becomes boring when doing it frequently enough.




... I'm basically going with long-term tolerance. No way to prove these things definitively but I'm hoping two or three months off will bring the magic back... if it does come back I can only assume I had some sort of a tolerance build up. But it still  seems  strange how we went from awesome two nothing in a couple weeks I figured it would be a little more gradual.

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: Achuma]
    #24056824 - 02/01/17 10:13 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Just walking in during the middle of a movie

in the past I've gone through too many trips in too short a time, and the effects of mushrooms became almost nonexistent, just uncomfortable.  then I had some DOB and it sent me flying, same with LSD.  had some great trips with LSD which never lost its effectiveness, but after a long time of doing that and having the occasional functional mushroom trip, I experienced severe instability which led to speech deficiencies and confusing babble for up to a year for the worst of it.  I can't even scratch the surface of the multitude of internal processes which were opened up for me to fiddle with and were fucked up by my careless misunderstanding of the gravity of the situation.  I regained functionality within a few months and from my own perspective I returned slowly to my previously intact personality/mental healthiness over the course of several years, during which I had around 4-8 trips per year with DMT, mushrooms, seeds, and cacti.  I'm no poster child for making the healthiest decisions but it hasn't really eroded my awareness of what's going on, at least not that I'm aware of.:smirk:

TL;DR - if you're at the point where mushrooms are no longer affecting you, it's potentially more serious than you think it is, and continuing to trip using substances which break past the psilocin tolerance is probably not very healthy for you, despite frequent messages of calm reassurance that psychedelics are harmless.





  That's sounds really strange bro... so you did some acid and then started having speech difficulties?..

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24056833 - 02/01/17 10:16 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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If so that's very normal and not at all the same as what OP claims, which is that he is entirely immune to mushrooms (and previously LSD). This sounds more like a bad set and/or setting that the mushrooms are amplifying, not that they're not affecting you. For you to be paranoid out of your mind they're surely doing something.




I've had trips like this with zero visuals. Plausible.




Been there done that more than a few times. It takes all sorts of forms and all sorts out of interesting delusions.

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About 3 months ago, this started happening:

I take my dosage of mushrooms, the usual tension and energy spike and slight bit of nausea occurs - everything going as planned. But then, at the moment when the breakthrough into the "shroom zone" should occur... it doesn't. I find myself lucid, with all of the visuals of the psychedelic trip occurring within my field of vision, but none of what I refer to as the "head-space," or what I have heard other people refer to as "mindfuck." I am completely sober, but my vision is tripping.





Yeah, I know what that's like.  It takes all sorts of forms, like I said.

I've even had the totally weird experience of being totally "locked out" - sober as a judge, waiting, waiting, waiting and then - literally in the blink of an eye - something shifted inside my head and I was full on tripping balls.

Hard/impossible to explain rationally, but there it is. 

Sometimes ya get on the magic bus and sometimes the bus turns ya into roadkill.  :shrug:

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The truth is only time will tell what's going on with us and if we will get better. What we have learned from this experience is this- doing mushrooms and LSD every two weeks just to do mushrooms and LSD takes something special out of doing mushrooms and LSD.




Maybe there's some sort of weird cross effect doing the two together so much. It's like the only common thread here between both experiences.





.... it's mostly how suddenly it dropped off. I would think it would gradually drop off over a couple trips.:shrug:

On the last good one we had literally gone down one gram and one hit from the previous trip and we both agreed that it was the most intense trip that we've ever had!... that kind of goes contrary to the tolerance thing... I'm sure it will just remain and an enigma..:llamastare:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24056966 - 02/01/17 11:17 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Not to bring it back up, but maybe the steep drop off had to do with weaker doses. If you took, say for simplicities sake, 15g of mushrooms and tripped balls, then took 10g of mushrooms that were 3/4 as strong as the previous then you effectively took half that previous dose, factor in some tolerance and you're maybe 2/5 the previous dose, that would be fairly underwhelming. That 2/5 dose would still affect your tolerance though so then next time you take another 15g, even if they're the same, it has the effect of 1/4-1/2 the original 15. Or maybe the original 15 was stronger than usual and sort of masked the tolerance gain for a period. After that last 15 though there's really no coming back without a tolerance break.


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    #24057338 - 02/01/17 01:34 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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. That 2/5 dose would still affect your tolerance .




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    #24057513 - 02/01/17 02:50 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I'm saying too that maybe when we did 6 and 6 at the coast we were super tripped out more so than usual because of the set and setting. Also- no the doses weren't weaker, again, everyone (including reliable psychonauts) ate all the doses we've tried since Dec 7 and said that they were superb. Potency is not a question in this thread LOL


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    #24057540 - 02/01/17 03:02 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not thinking it was a major factor now, I think it's more tolerance, but mushrooms *always* vary in potency unless it's a clone. You might have had stronger ones one time and weaker ones another which would compound the apparent differences. It doesn't matter though, not trying to debate that any more, I don't even think it's contributing much with this new information.


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