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krypto2000
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
#24051368 - 01/30/17 10:52 AM (7 years, 12 hours ago) |
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Well we agree to disagree. I don't think you're lying or being malicious, but I just don't believe you, it sounds so illogical to me. We have been over it and statistically I don't think it's that odd, you said yourself that you and your brother only ate a couple of large mushrooms, that narrows down the chances considerably. You also didn't say you experienced nothing, per your own description you had mild effects, that means weak, not totally bunk, that further increases the odds. I didn't see you mention the frequency of this either so tolerance may also be a factor. Keep in mind I'm also speaking from experience, I've tripped maybe a couple hundred times and had 3-5 trips that were either very weak or straight bunk, same circumstances as you, reached in a bag I and others have tripped from many times before and many times after. It undeniably happens, the question is if it happened to you.
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
#24051533 - 01/30/17 12:08 PM (7 years, 11 hours ago) |
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Never said we ate just large shrooms... mostly it's been small to medium size and one time I think I ate on that was like five grams....
regardless these batches have all been found extremely potent by other people and also the people I work with are extremely reliable and not going to put bunk batches out cuz it's bad for them...
The first thing I thought was potency but after much analysis I think it's clearly the other way...
It's strange but true.... literally the most potent mushrooms I've ever eaten delivering trip after trip of over-the-top insanity...
I've basically determined that I'll never come to a conclusion other than my brain broke. I'm hopefully going to clear that up by taking some time off but only time will tell..
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
#24051711 - 01/30/17 01:06 PM (7 years, 10 hours ago) |
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voodoochild1000 said: Never said we ate just large shrooms... mostly it's been small to medium size and one time I think I ate on that was like five grams....
You specifically said early on that your brother ate two single mushrooms.
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.. and somehow my bro also grabbed two completely bunk mushrooms?
You also just said there was a time when you ate a single 5g mushroom. The less quantity of mushrooms that make up a dose the higher the chances are that you grab bunk ones.
I've explained how genetics work with mushrooms and that just because some or even most mushrooms from a batch are very potent has no baring on all the rest, potency from mushroom to mushroom does vary, and it can vary a lot.
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
#24051905 - 01/30/17 02:27 PM (7 years, 8 hours ago) |
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voodoo is there any sort of dietary thing both you and your bro adopted about the same time - anything at all?????
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
#24051981 - 01/30/17 03:01 PM (7 years, 8 hours ago) |
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Never said we ate just large shrooms... mostly it's been small to medium size and one time I think I ate on that was like five grams....
regardless these batches have all been found extremely potent by other people and also the people I work with are extremely reliable and not going to put bunk batches out cuz it's bad for them...
The first thing I thought was potency but after much analysis I think it's clearly the other way...
It's strange but true.... literally the most potent mushrooms I've ever eaten delivering trip after trip of over-the-top insanity...
I've basically determined that I'll never come to a conclusion other than my brain broke. I'm hopefully going to clear that up by taking some time off but only time will tell..Quote:
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voodoochild1000 said: Never said we ate just large shrooms... mostly it's been small to medium size and one time I think I ate on that was like five grams....
You specifically said early on that your brother ate two single mushrooms.
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.. and somehow my bro also grabbed two completely bunk mushrooms?
You also just said there was a time when you ate a single 5g mushroom. The less quantity of mushrooms that make up a dose the higher the chances are that you grab bunk ones.
I've explained how genetics work with mushrooms and that just because some or even most mushrooms from a batch are very potent has no baring on all the rest, potency from mushroom to mushroom does vary, and it can vary a lot.
...I think that's a typo...I would have to see whole post... but seriously bro it isn't like we are just eating big mushrooms actually the cyans were bunch of smaller ones and all of them were mostly medium and it was always a mix sometimes we just did little s*** from the bottom which usually gets us totally Rocked....I agree it's crazy..... but potency seems to work for like 8 other people....multiple batches.... and I personally have never experienced any variance trip to trip on the same batch and all of my previous mushroom experiences.... I feel like the whole experience has ruled out the idea that it's a potency issue...
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
#24051990 - 01/30/17 03:05 PM (7 years, 8 hours ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: voodoo is there any sort of dietary thing both you and your bro adopted about the same time - anything at all?????
Nothing Bro.... I'm basically going with sometime form of long-term tolerance... it's just crazy that we ate them and nothing then a few days later three friends ate from the same bag and got their faces melted off...
Hopefully the break clerk things up.... I mean we were questioning being able to do like 10 grams of these mushrooms again they were so potent. So the idea of having to do a half ounce or something of these mushrooms that get off is absolutely ridiculous... and I honestly don't think eating a bunch more would really do anything other than maybe ramp up that mild come up feeling a little bit. Cuz 1 x 0 equal 0 and 10 x 0 equal 0....
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
#24052490 - 01/30/17 06:15 PM (7 years, 5 hours ago) |
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Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
#24052526 - 01/30/17 06:30 PM (7 years, 4 hours ago) |
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krypto2000 said: Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.
jesus dude i was one to eat out of the same bag and tripped the fuck out. I know voodoo personally and im telling you potency is not the issue. Yeah there is no possible way to know alkaloid content but these shrooms are anything but impotent.
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
#24052533 - 01/30/17 06:32 PM (7 years, 4 hours ago) |
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Try 4-AcO-DMT
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
#24052899 - 01/30/17 08:48 PM (7 years, 2 hours ago) |
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Voodoo this is really weird, as you said. What kind of doses have you done when this has been happening? Maybe an extra large helping will help ya out?
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
#24053621 - 01/31/17 06:46 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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LoneLobo said: Hey Voodoo, just curious about your current progress. It's only been 2 weeks for me and I'm already thinking about trying again. Going to resist the urge and still aiming for 2 months of sobriety.
Definitely have been noticing continuous residual psychedelic visuals and thoughts in my every day sober life. Like for a few seconds entire walls will start to sway. Or I'll get really fun, awesome feeling head space for a few minutes out of nowhere and then just as quickly it goes away. I can only assume this is months worth of residual integration taking place. Or my brain has literally been stockpiling psilocybin and is slowly giving it back to me, which would explain why i don't trip anymore, because I'm saving the psilocybin. Like a squirrel with nuts in his cheeks. Ha!
... same Bro....
Just chillin' focusing on business and trying to work steady and build momentum.
Committed to 2 months minimum... gotta do it! Not shure exactly how my brain broke in regards to psilocybin. And my Bro too?...same time?....we will never know why...just so fucking weird!
Anyways... I have committed to Aya before trying shrooms again. So in 2-3 months I'm gonna try Aya and hopefully by summer the shrooms come back...L works buts it's just not what mushrooms deliver...and I shouldn't have to take 15 good hits to really "Trip"
DADDY NEEDS A BREAK..
... stay in touch Bruddah!
You can trip on LSD but not mushrooms? I know you refuse to believe it but this just screams weak shrooms, especially if your brother can't either. It seems so obvious.
I'm sorry man, but do you know any other songs? It seems like you can only play this one note of, bad shrooms, even when both myself and the thread starter have stated repeatedly that it is absolutely nothing to do with the potency of the shrooms. I have performed several tests using other trusted trippers, other shrooms, various controls. This is an issue with how the brain and conscious are handling the input of psilocybin, an adverse reaction due to overuse.
Perhaps you cannot comprehend this concept because you have never experienced it. But your repeated comments about "bad shrooms" do nothing to push forward the topic of conversation. My two cents of course.
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
#24053623 - 01/31/17 06:53 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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voodoochild1000 said: That's what's up playboy... multiple people have tripped on all the duchess and the potency is nothing question and anyway. My God we've been through this dude let's agree to disagree and you can be on your way.
.. they trip and we don't trip and you don't just reach into a bag and grab all of the bunk mushrooms in your hand for some reason we've already been through that and the statistical probability is miniscule to say the least...
.... you can explain how I get zero and like 5 other people have trip balls off of the same bag and if you think somehow they grab the good ones and I reach in and grab Nothing But Bunk mushrooms like 4 times? that's absolutely ridiculous...
It's an anomally but it's in my head...not the shrooms....give it up dude...jeez..
Seriously! What is this guy's deal? "I don't believe you"? Like there's some reason to lie? Shut up about bad shrooms. We've passed that juncture. Add something progressive to the topic, or just don't. Stop retracing sullied grounds.
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
#24053724 - 01/31/17 08:16 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.
We allways grind.... lemon tek...
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LincolnCityTripper]
#24053728 - 01/31/17 08:17 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.
jesus dude i was one to eat out of the same bag and tripped the fuck out. I know voodoo personally and im telling you potency is not the issue. Yeah there is no possible way to know alkaloid content but these shrooms are anything but impotent.
.....true...
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#24053730 - 01/31/17 08:18 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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AuroraBorealis88 said: Try 4-AcO-DMT
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
#24053742 - 01/31/17 08:24 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Voodoo this is really weird, as you said. What kind of doses have you done when this has been happening? Maybe an extra large helping will help ya out? 
...5-6 grams.... which is pretty much where I was at when the mushrooms were working so no real changes there... we have considered taking a much larger dose like a half ounce but it just seems ridiculous. These mushrooms Rock our world at six Greyhounds and the idea that I would have to eat a half ounce to trip is just over the top...
Is very little as I felt on five grams I'm not sure if 15 is going to be that much different and maybe just a waste of shrooms...
It's an option...
Like I said. I'm going to take two months off then do ayahuasca then I'll try to shrooms after that somewhere around the two and a half to three month mark... I really hope the magic returns...
I really find this situation very interesting and inexplicable... it sucks that I can't enjoy shrooms but hopefully with some time off it will come back. I feel this is a real Enigma for the shroomery and I welcome any and all feedback..
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
#24053746 - 01/31/17 08:25 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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voodoochild1000 said: That's what's up playboy... multiple people have tripped on all the duchess and the potency is nothing question and anyway. My God we've been through this dude let's agree to disagree and you can be on your way.
.. they trip and we don't trip and you don't just reach into a bag and grab all of the bunk mushrooms in your hand for some reason we've already been through that and the statistical probability is miniscule to say the least...
.... you can explain how I get zero and like 5 other people have trip balls off of the same bag and if you think somehow they grab the good ones and I reach in and grab Nothing But Bunk mushrooms like 4 times? that's absolutely ridiculous...
It's an anomally but it's in my head...not the shrooms....give it up dude...jeez..
Seriously! What is this guy's deal? "I don't believe you"? Like there's some reason to lie? Shut up about bad shrooms. We've passed that juncture. Add something progressive to the topic, or just don't. Stop retracing sullied grounds.
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
#24053753 - 01/31/17 08:28 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's crazy strange!
.. as of now the only reasonable explanation is somehow not only my brain but my friends brain broke at the same time and we are literally able to take a solid to whopping dose of psilocybin and our brains just shut it down and don't allow it to happen...
....it's an Enigma!.....
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
#24053792 - 01/31/17 08:44 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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voodoochild1000 said: It's crazy strange!
.. as of now the only reasonable explanation is somehow not only my brain but my friends brain broke at the same time and we are literally able to take a solid to whopping dose of psilocybin and our brains just shut it down and don't allow it to happen...
....it's an Enigma!.....
How have you felt these past 3 weeks? Good, bad? Better than normal?
Personally, I've been in the best mood these past 3 weeks. I feel more sure of myself, my life, my decisions and my spirituality than i ever have before. I even had a fight with my best friend, who, because of his basically straight edge wife, has stopped doing psychedelics and seems to have taken a stance against me doing them as well. But instead of this fight sending me into depression over this now damaged friendship, I've been very accepting of this reality and see it as more spiritual growth in the right direction.
I also have been experiencing open eyed visuals and increased visual contrast at irregular points in my day, usually after smoking weed. This is coupled with an increase in mood, laughing and generally crazy fun thoughts.
Any similarities?
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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LincolnCityTripper]
#24053868 - 01/31/17 09:16 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.
jesus dude i was one to eat out of the same bag and tripped the fuck out. I know voodoo personally and im telling you potency is not the issue. Yeah there is no possible way to know alkaloid content but these shrooms are anything but impotent.
The fact that you still think it means anything that you've eaten out of the same bag and tripped means nothing. I've explained very clearly how mushrooms work and you seem unable to grasp that. It's an incredibly simple concept. Do you have a learning disorder or is it just a mental block of some sort?
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krypto2000 said: Why don't you try grinding up ~10g or w/e of mushrooms and splitting it with 2 other people? That would rule out potency for sure since you're guaranteed to be ingesting the same amount of alkaloids.
We allways grind.... lemon tek...
You mix all of your mushrooms together and grind them up, then split them among whoever? Or you grind up your individual shrooms? "We always grind" goes very counter to "My brother ate two large mushrooms" and another time "I ate a single 5 gram mushroom." You said this has happened five times, there's two instances right there.
Your story keeps changing, it never made sense to begin with, and you've been hostile from the very beginning as if you feel a need to defend your position rather than figure it out. It actually seems as though your ego is intimately entwined with the potency of your mushrooms, which could explain why there's so much over compensation going on.
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