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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24009770 - 01/14/17 12:58 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Cactus maybe?....


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: filthyknees]
    #24009812 - 01/14/17 01:25 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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your current grow is just bunk(happens to all of us), seems like you're reading way far into something that's not there.

I don't think it's the mushrooms telling you something. They're just bunk. Maybe you're learning to take some clones and test for potency first this time. Seems more likely than mushroom never allowing you to trip again (lol)




This is it. I don't know how many times we need to say it, your mushrooms are bunk. I don't care if some people tripped, some of them were obviously not bunk then, that's what happens with MS. That's very very normal, it's expected in fact. We don't need 300 more threads asking the same god damned question or hearing complaints that you "can't" trip.

I don't know if you were involved OP, I'm sorry if I'm taking it out on you if not, but there have been probably 10 or more threads asking or complaining about this over the last month just from 2 or maybe 3 different people. Stop, the answer is not going to change just because you ask again. You're not special, there's nothing different about your brain than anyone else's. If you can't trip, can't get high on pot, or w/e else then you would have some very serious mental issues in your everyday waking life. Your receptors are not just sitting there waiting for you to give them drugs, they are constantly working to provide you with conscious awareness.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24010442 - 01/14/17 06:14 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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your current grow is just bunk(happens to all of us), seems like you're reading way far into something that's not there.

I don't think it's the mushrooms telling you something. They're just bunk. Maybe you're learning to take some clones and test for potency first this time. Seems more likely than mushroom never allowing you to trip again (lol)




This is it. I don't know how many times we need to say it, your mushrooms are bunk. I don't care if some people tripped, some of them were obviously not bunk then, that's what happens with MS. That's very very normal, it's expected in fact. We don't need 300 more threads asking the same god damned question or hearing complaints that you "can't" trip.

I don't know if you were involved OP, I'm sorry if I'm taking it out on you if not, but there have been probably 10 or more threads asking or complaining about this over the last month just from 2 or maybe 3 different people. Stop, the answer is not going to change just because you ask again. You're not special, there's nothing different about your brain than anyone else's. If you can't trip, can't get high on pot, or w/e else then you would have some very serious mental issues in your everyday waking life. Your receptors are not just sitting there waiting for you to give them drugs, they are constantly working to provide you with conscious awareness.




 
  So I eat from the same bag 15-20 times.... trip hard  (real hard) every time .... now for some reason the last 3 times a get mushrooms from the same bag they're totally bunk... for me and my bro?.... that makes no sense...and the other Mush too?....they were bunk?...like somehow we missed all the bunk shrooms previously? And now we are finding them all at once?

  ....not shure about that..:shrug:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24010621 - 01/14/17 07:33 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Maybe they're old and degraded. Occam's razor, what do you think is more likely? Your neuro receptors have changed drastically but it only is apparent when ingesting hallucinogens or that you didn't actually ingest a significant amount of alkaloids? Not just that but you and your brother simultaneously had this change occur. Your description even sounds like a low dose trip to me.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24010922 - 01/14/17 09:41 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Uhm, yeah, that.  Or maybe you've contracted a contagious anti-psychedelic mind virus somehow...  :aliceshocker:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #24011016 - 01/14/17 10:33 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

I agree and I was going with that premise butt it still doesn't explain the other premise...

.. I don't see how they could go from awesome to nothing in a month that is contrary to my experience. And I've had some mushrooms in the past that were weak and I definitely noticed it but still felt like I was tripping I mean this s*** was literally nothing...

.. I want to believe that they are simply not potent. If they were weak when I still feel something or if they were degrading when they gradually lose potency not go from completely awesome to nothing in 30 days time?.......

... I'm not trying to be redundant  it is just very unusual and runs contradictory to my other previous experiences....


..... it just doesn't make sense that I would have dose after dose of Awesomeness and then all the sudden I'm grabbing completely a completely bunk dose out of the same bag ?? I would think it would sort of average out as far as potency when just randomly grabbing in the bag and weighing out a dose?:shrug:

I can see it slightly varying and 1 dose being super strong and another one being a little less but not just nothing...? those mushrooms were so f****** strong!:bigyesnod:.....


....regardless.... I'm going to take a break and hopefully in a few months it will start rocking again!

    ...:firstladyofapproval:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24011017 - 01/14/17 10:34 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Thanks for the feedback :bigyesnod::awethumb:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24011069 - 01/14/17 11:14 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

I've had the same thing happen. Dosed from a bag, had a great trip, grabbed from the same bag and me and my friend experienced nothing. It's happened to me two or three times. The mushrooms were bunk. I've later grabbed from the same bag and tripped. Some batches are better than others, some mushrooms have no alkaloids at all, and in these cases it's literally down to luck of the draw. The ones that happened with for me happened to be B+ which have been called 'bunk plus,' whether it's a coincidence or not I don't know.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24011567 - 01/15/17 09:09 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

I just posted a very long thread about basically this exact same thing happening to me.

Krypto2000, I get where you're coming from, but you don't really know what you're talking about until you've experienced this first hand. It's not just "the shrooms are bunk." I've already disproven that theory.

My current standing is that repeated heavy usage of psilocybin creates schizophrenia, i.e. compartmentalization in the brain. It is possible, with repeated usage, to cause the brain to "send" the psychedelic experience into another, undetectable part of the mind where the conscious mind can't feel it.

I know this sounds like bullshit, but it is true.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: LoneLobo]
    #24011678 - 01/15/17 09:54 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Yeah, that does sound like bs :rofl:. Where did you get that idea from? Again, occam's razor man. Lets assume you're right and that you can't be affected by psychedelics anymore, does that seems like the most likely explanation to you? Your 5ht receptors play a very very vital role in your everyday consciousness. I promise you that you did not have a trip one day that totally rewired your brain to somehow not use 5ht receptors for conscious thought, that's way out there. WAY out there. It sounds about as reasonable as an alien abduction and biomodification or something, that is NOT going to happen. How something that is totally unconscious could be considered schizophrenia either I don't know, that doesn't make sense, schizophrenia is very apparent, it's not like you can have a hidden schizophrenia that has no symptoms.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24011740 - 01/15/17 10:11 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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I've had the same thing happen. Dosed from a bag, had a great trip, grabbed from the same bag and me and my friend experienced nothing. It's happened to me two or three times. The mushrooms were bunk. I've later grabbed from the same bag and tripped. Some batches are better than others, some mushrooms have no alkaloids at all, and in these cases it's literally down to luck of the draw. The ones that happened with for me happened to be B+ which have been called 'bunk plus,' whether it's a coincidence or not I don't know.



Yes. If you take ten minutes to research multispore genetics in the mush cult section you will learn it is a crap shoot. In the same grow you can have a range from non-potent to potent.

It's just as simple as that, not excluding your rediculous dosage frequency giving you tolerance.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: filthyknees]
    #24011998 - 01/15/17 11:40 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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I've had the same thing happen. Dosed from a bag, had a great trip, grabbed from the same bag and me and my friend experienced nothing. It's happened to me two or three times. The mushrooms were bunk. I've later grabbed from the same bag and tripped. Some batches are better than others, some mushrooms have no alkaloids at all, and in these cases it's literally down to luck of the draw. The ones that happened with for me happened to be B+ which have been called 'bunk plus,' whether it's a coincidence or not I don't know.



Yes. If you take ten minutes to research multispore genetics in the mush cult section you will learn it is a crap shoot. In the same grow you can have a range from non-potent to potent.

It's just as simple as that, not excluding your rediculous dosage frequency giving you tolerance.





....ok... can someone answer this question please...?

  How could I be eating out of the same batch and tripping time and time again and then all the sudden from the same bag literally I'm getting nothing.... like I said before wouldn't it sort of average out not have full-blown trips and then no trip at all? We're usually doing 7 gram so the idea that I would get 7 grams of Awesomeness time and time again and then get 7 grams of nothingness twice in a row while other people tripped says to me something more than simply that they are bunk..

..I get the multi-spore thing.. but would you agree it would sort of average out not just all of the sudden have completely bunk trips?


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24012005 - 01/15/17 11:42 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Also I've been tripping every two weeks and I feel is plenty of time in between trips and has proven so over the last 2 years:shrug:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24012022 - 01/15/17 11:47 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

We literally just told you man. Mushroom A might be bunk, mushrooms B might be potent as shit, and mushrooms C might be in the middle. Sometimes you get mostly mushrooms A. Sometimes B, usually it's a mix of all three and the trips average out, but not always. It's a numbers game. If your mushrooms are high is psilocin and low in psilocybin they can rapidly degrade and lose potency as well, they can go from 100% psilocin at harvest to next to nothing in a months time.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24012060 - 01/15/17 12:05 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Ok... but 3 different batches...?

...and they work for others?

  .. and somehow my bro also grabbed two completely bunk mushrooms?

.. believe me at first I just thought they were bunk but after multiple tests I'm still left with questions...

... wouldn't I at least trip a little bit?

  After getting nothing the first time I switch to the cyanescens... then back to the cubes again from the first batch. Then cubes from a new batch...

  I just can't wrap my head around how both of us we're grabbing completely Punk patches and yet other people were tripping and even we tripped off the first batch many many times...

  Oh well...lame:scaryshroom:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24012202 - 01/15/17 01:10 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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Ok... but 3 different batches...?




Yes...

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...and they work for others?




Yes...

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.. and somehow my bro also grabbed two completely bunk mushrooms?




Still yes. And only two mushrooms? That makes it even more likely. If you had grabbed 20 small mushrooms it would spread out your chances.

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.. believe me at first I just thought they were bunk but after multiple tests I'm still left with questions...




We've given you the answers, again, and again, and again, same answers. You seem to be refusing to accept them, I can't help that.

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... wouldn't I at least trip a little bit?




Not necessarily, but per your very own description you did trip a little bit.

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it actually felt like it was coming on last night but then just dropped off...




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  After getting nothing the first time I switch to the cyanescens... then back to the cubes again from the first batch. Then cubes from a new batch...




Sounds like a bunch of bunk mushrooms.

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  I just can't wrap my head around how both of us we're grabbing completely Punk patches and yet other people were tripping and even we tripped off the first batch many many times...




I just told you. Alkaloid content varies from one mushroom to the next. If you take a bunch and grind them into a flour you'll have consistent potency from trip to trip.


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: krypto2000]
    #24012292 - 01/15/17 02:02 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)



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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24012336 - 01/15/17 02:33 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

One more time for science, In a multispore tub there are many sets of genetics, yes they are limited to the ones that 'win' and colonize over the weaker strains, that does not mean that there cannot be one strain that has very very low levels of actives yet 'wins' the colonization run. Also doesn't mean that the cluster a foot away cannot contain much higher levels of actives. It's not all homogenous like you suspect. That's why commonly people will eat the fruits they clone from, to make sure they are reasonably potent. It is inevitable that with multispore there is a range of actives present over even a single flush.

Thank you krypto  :getstoned:


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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: filthyknees]
    #24012380 - 01/15/17 02:58 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

I agree with that....but I have tripped like a hundred times on many batches and have not ever experienced this level of impotence..now all of a sudden? Nothing?

  It's like hitting blackjack a hundred times in a row...

  Maybe i was super lucky....reliably tripping 7 grams all those times and now the random completely bunk (completely! ) doses from multiple batches...

  All I'm saying is u have to admit that's Strange and contrary to my personal experience.

  Maybe other people tripped one time and then nothing next time from same batch...but that has NOT been my experience...

Batches can vary...

  But my trips from any individual batch have been consistent....never just bunk or even noticeably stronger or weaker trip to trip.

...IME....:firstladyofapproval:


  Maybe that's what happened to you guys when you do mushrooms but it has never happened to me personally...75-100 trips....


  I would say I would have already had one of those experiences by now and that case like I said it's like hitting Blackjack 100 times in a row the statistics are off the charts...

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Re: Official ## mushrooms completely stopped working for me !.. time for Aya.... [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #24012382 - 01/15/17 03:00 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

:llamastare: MUSHROOM GODS :llamastare:


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