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At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans?
    #24006474 - 01/13/17 07:56 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

And why are quotas for business/education not considered racist in and of itself?

With a republican president will the current race relations improve?

Or will things continue to get more and more sensitive to the point that we cannot even discuss issues in order to improve upon them?

From my perspective, it seems as if all these policies have been installed within our society to fAvor blacks, and to be a detriment to whites

Any theories?

Edit - I forgot to add a question -

Are these policies that have been instituted "enabling" black culture to continue to believe that they 'need' handouts, or that for some reason they are incapable of succeeding without these policies?

Same old tired argument but I think it adds perspective- do other ethnic groups fleeing oppression deserve policy that gives them an upper hand when looking for work or in pursuit of higher education?

Please no racist crap, just looking for educated opinion


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack]
    #24006486 - 01/13/17 08:01 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

'We' don't owe them shit. They have the 15th Amendment.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: eeso] * 1
    #24006491 - 01/13/17 08:04 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

If you think we own African Americans for actions that happened years ago it proves you know very little about the issue.
They systems of control and oppression are just as alive today as they have ever been.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack] * 4
    #24006498 - 01/13/17 08:10 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Any theories?




I need to know who "we" is because I dont recall having a debt to be paid to anyone, much less any african americans


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: SARAtonin] * 1
    #24006501 - 01/13/17 08:12 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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If you think we own African Americans for actions that happened years ago it proves you know very little about the issue.




we dont own anyone, that's illegal


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They systems of control and oppression are just as alive today as they have ever been.




please, do tell


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: SARAtonin] * 2
    #24006505 - 01/13/17 08:18 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

The conservative echo chamber is about to fill up with the usual suspects, I'm outta here. :hotdamn:


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #24006512 - 01/13/17 08:22 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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stzacrack said:
Any theories?




I need to know who "we" is because I dont recall having a debt to be paid to anyone, much less any african americans




Well, I guess you're right

Who the heck IS we in this discussion?

But if there is no 'we' then why exactly do WE have to live with affirmative action, quotas within business and education, and so on and so forth?

That seems to be giving blacks an unnecessary edge at the sacrifice of more 'qualified' students/workers

Is that racist policy? Or what am I missing?


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack] * 5
    #24006513 - 01/13/17 08:22 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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And why are quotas for business/education not considered racist in and of itself?

With a republican president will the current race relations improve?

Or will things continue to get more and more sensitive to the point that we cannot even discuss issues in order to improve upon them?

From my perspective, it seems as if all these policies have been installed within our society to fAvor blacks, and to be a detriment to whites

Any theories?



Thats absolutely right. Liberals want to go as far as rewrite history and make white people the new minority.

I watched a bit of obamas out the door speech the other day and the little i did catch before changing the channel was typical. You can read between the lines easily. He said we (whites) need to get used to these "brown kids" getting their piece of the pie and yada yada.

He also basically said that we(non whites)should look through the eyes of blue collar middle class whites and how the change/shift of power happening is scary for them.

Liberals say its about getting equal rights for blacks/minorities but its absolutely about elevating themselves above whites


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Asante] * 4
    #24006518 - 01/13/17 08:24 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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The conservative echo chamber is about to fill up with the usual suspects, I'm outta here. :hotdamn:




Nothing of substance to add?

Just chiming in for sake of the peanut gallery?


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack] * 3
    #24006530 - 01/13/17 08:29 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Anytime I add something of substance to this type of thread, no matter how much it reflects a simple personal opinion, we get two pages of conservatives bashing the fuck out of me for speaking my mind and saying that I'm abusing my authority or whatever and not even addressing my point.

No thanks.


Its a setup for a bunch of white conservatives to bitch endlessly about black people being entitled and how sorry we must feel for the white man without tolerating any form of counterpoint, thats why 99% of pub dwellers check out of these threads fast.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #24006545 - 01/13/17 08:36 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

The best way to pay the debt immediately is to leave them alone and treat them as if they're white.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #24006549 - 01/13/17 08:39 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

They were fucking awsone when it comes to music and sports i mean jimi hendrix for fucking sake.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Patlal]
    #24006550 - 01/13/17 08:40 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I think it's learned behavior.  My living Grandpa is racist and so was my Dad.  Making jokes and just being a dirty mouth.  It happens with african Americans too.  I'm sure some parents or Grandparents teach attitudes about white people.  Same goes for different religions or classes and cultures.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Asante]
    #24006567 - 01/13/17 08:46 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I cantspeak for other posters but I value your opinion, especially if it differs from whatever majority is within the thread

It will help further discussion outside the box and reveal another angle to the discussion


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Asante] * 5
    #24006575 - 01/13/17 08:50 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Anytime I add something of substance to this type of thread, no matter how much it reflects a simple personal opinion, we get two pages of conservatives bashing the fuck out of me for speaking my mind and saying that I'm abusing my authority or whatever and not even addressing my point.




or maybe you simply get someone elses opinion which you dont agree with and you
decide to take it as a personal attack



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Its a setup for a bunch of white conservatives to bitch endlessly about black people being entitled and how sorry we must feel for the white man without tolerating any form of counterpoint, thats why 99% of pub dwellers check out of these threads fast.




what I see is that liberals simply dont have sound reasoning and once it's pointed
out how wrong they are with their claims that the whites owe blacks everything and
other related blacks are better propaganda such as how facts are racist and the
blacks are systematically oppressed the decide to get out before they have to
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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24006576 - 01/13/17 08:51 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I wouldn't generalize liberals like that.  Sure there are some guilt ridden people bit they usually suck to know anyhow.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Patlal]
    #24006578 - 01/13/17 08:52 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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The best way to pay the debt immediately is to leave them alone and treat them as if they're white.






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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Patlal]
    #24006580 - 01/13/17 08:52 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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The best way to pay the debt immediately is to leave them alone and treat them as if they're white.





that would be racist


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #24006622 - 01/13/17 09:20 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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The best way to pay the debt immediately is to leave them alone and treat them as if they're white.





that would be racist




Of course it is. Everything is racist nowdays, but let's fight racism with racism.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24006623 - 01/13/17 09:20 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

My paternal grandfather was notably racist (not particularly vocal about it) and my first boss was pretty racist. I've traveled on foot through many urban areas and have been referred to as "cracker" more times than I can count, not related to my expressing any racism. I'm with Pris#1 on this topic though.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack] * 2
    #24006628 - 01/13/17 09:25 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Are these policies that have been instituted "enabling" black culture to continue to believe that they 'need' handouts, or that for some reason they are incapable of succeeding without these policies?

Same old tired argument but I think it adds perspective- do other ethnic groups fleeing oppression deserve policy that gives them an upper hand when looking for work or in pursuit of higher education?




I think "affirmative action" type approaches are a bad idea. People from the group being "helped" will tend to have their competence questioned, which is actually a disadvantage for the members of the group who really are competent enough to compete with everyone else without this help.

IMO a better approach is to start from further back and ensure that everyone has access to decent primary and secondary education, so that they have a better shot at actually succeeding rather someone stepping in at the end and saying everyone has to pretend that they did. If some schools (e.g. in poorer neighborhoods) are testing poorly then maybe they need more funding, not less (to allow for smaller class sizes etc.) Teaching should pay fairly well to attract better talent.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Patlal]
    #24006629 - 01/13/17 09:26 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Patlal said:
Quote:

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Patlal said:
The best way to pay the debt immediately is to leave them alone and treat them as if they're white.





that would be racist




Of course it is. Everything is racist nowdays, but let's fight racism with racism.




That's exactly why I made the thread

Since everyone is so sensitive we can't even discuss these topics, and this leads to policy which is racist to begin with impossible to change, because once you try to point out why it needs to be changed, you're called a racist

Its a sick and twisted cycle and I don't understand how it's spiraled so far downward. I hope a change in office helps us to be able to talk about these things and work toward making changes


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Asante] * 4
    #24006635 - 01/13/17 09:28 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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The conservative echo chamber is about to fill up with the usual suspects, I'm outta here. :hotdamn:




So you came to announce you are leaving because opinions contrary to your own  are upsetting?


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: eeso] * 1
    #24006653 - 01/13/17 09:37 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

You see, there are white people:  :raisemyglass:

And then there are white people:  :loveintheair:


There are black people: :thisfuckinguy:

And then there are black people:  :awedrugs:     


The problem is, when there a camera in the room with both kind of white people, the camera will shift towards this guy  :raisemyglass:

But when there's a camera in the room with both kind of black people, the camera will shift towards this guy :awedrugs:     


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Revok]
    #24006667 - 01/13/17 09:48 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

We needo igurenour a way to disallow black women to have multiple children. I Kean like, four and five. I saw a girl, maybe my age, probably younger, with five kids.

We can all complain about who owes what like children. Adults are actually worse then children most of time. What do you do wit a 70%+ rate of absent fathers. Ah do you do with a bunch of assholes that don't give a fuck about their kid?
Or the female is usingkid to extort money he doesn't have and torturing him with it. Its a common practice


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #24006680 - 01/13/17 09:53 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I think we have a ways to go before the "debt" has been paid.  African Americans built the wealth of America not Quakers or the Amish.

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    #24006682 - 01/13/17 09:54 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Debt also implies after they are compensated they will leave, laughable.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #24006685 - 01/13/17 09:54 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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We needo igurenour a way to disallow black women to have multiple children. I Kean like, four and five. I saw a girl, maybe my age, probably younger, with five kids.

We can all complain about who owes what like children. Adults are actually worse then children most of time. What do you do wit a 70%+ rate of absent fathers. Ah do you do with a bunch of assholes that don't give a fuck about their kid?
Or the female is usingkid to extort money he doesn't have and torturing him with it. Its a common practice




Why only black women?


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Prem. Kissoff] * 1
    #24006689 - 01/13/17 09:56 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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I think we have a ways to go before the "debt" has been paid.





what debt

 
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African Americans built the wealth of America 




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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Patlal]
    #24006691 - 01/13/17 09:58 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

That's actually pretty much spot on.

Race is just an illusion, but if you're gonna break humanity down into racial categories, then yes, you will find both smart and dumb people in every race! The most crucial factor in that is education, anyways, and a lot of black communities are impoverished without access to decent educational systems, with no revenue from the american tax payer coming in to help any time soon, because they're blinded by conservative propaganda and really just don't give a shit anyways. 

But like Patlal pointed out, it's typical of the media and white people in the U.S. to sort of lump all black people into a single group and then put as their banner man an under educated male, whom they presume to be dangerous and spiteful. That's really the image of a black male in this society, the 'thug'. And it's pretty fucked up, but I believe that white people and black people who've been duped by the media and racist propaganda in politics will gradually begin to see their fellow human beings simply as people first, they just need more exposure and education through experience.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Patlal]
    #24006700 - 01/13/17 10:01 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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The problem is, when there a camera in the room with both kind of white people, the camera will shift towards this guy  :raisemyglass:





unless there's a tornado, then they drive straight to the trailer park for bubba earl's take on things

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But when there's a camera in the room with both kind of black people, the camera will shift towards this guy :awedrugs:





you cant push an agenda of stereotypes if you dont show the more entertaining of the crowd


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack] * 1
    #24006701 - 01/13/17 10:02 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Quote:

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stzacrack said:
Any theories?




I need to know who "we" is because I dont recall having a debt to be paid to anyone, much less any african americans




Well, I guess you're right

Who the heck IS we in this discussion?

But if there is no 'we' then why exactly do WE have to live with affirmative action, quotas within business and education, and so on and so forth?

That seems to be giving blacks an unnecessary edge at the sacrifice of more 'qualified' students/workers

Is that racist policy? Or what am I missing?




Yes, Affirmative Action and quotas are racist policies, yet liberals are in FAVOR of these racist polices and if anyone questions these polices they will called them "racist"!

Do you see how the game is played?


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #24006710 - 01/13/17 10:06 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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That's actually pretty much spot on.

Race is just an illusion, but if you're gonna break humanity down into racial categories, then yes, you will find both smart and dumb people in every race! The most crucial factor in that is education, anyways, and a lot of black communities are impoverished without access to decent educational systems, with no revenue from the american tax payer coming in to help any time soon, because they're blinded by conservative propaganda and really just don't give a shit anyways. 

But like Patlal pointed out, it's typical of the media and white people in the U.S. to sort of lump all black people into a single group and then put as their banner man an under educated male, whom they presume to be dangerous and spiteful. That's really the image of a black male in this society, the 'thug'. And it's pretty fucked up, but I believe that white people and black people who've been duped by the media and racist propaganda in politics will gradually begin to see their fellow human beings simply as people first, they just need more exposure and education through experience.




All the cities in my part of the country have plenty of money for public education, money isn't the issue, it's the cultures that reject education.

"blinded by conservative propaganda"

I think you have been blinded by liberal propaganda, public education in the US is what you make of it, money isn't the problem.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Prem. Kissoff] * 1
    #24006722 - 01/13/17 10:10 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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I think we have a ways to go before the "debt" has been paid.  African Americans built the wealth of America not Quakers or the Amish.

"A Black man built America! I KNOW what I'm talking about!"
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Total nonsense, being the hired hand doesn't mean you "built the wealth of America".

The fact of the matter is, after slavery blacks in the US have been living a much better standard of living than their relatives in Africa.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #24006727 - 01/13/17 10:12 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

They have the vaginas and wombs


I would hope for a more preventative measure then abortion.

They exaggerate the amount of inevolvement black slaves had in building the country. It was not mostly built by slaves


Education is so boring and difficult to deal with, I see why people reject it. Its like we become adults and forget school was like a prison run by undertrained old ladies, mostly, and some other shitty government babysitters that get through a page of material we won't remember with no idea of how it will be a fit us except giving us general knowledge.
Not that some didn't try, but you get 5 or more teachers a trimester and it all just goes past.
Maybe we wouldn't be packed twenty six to thirty to a room at 7am to learn uninteresting things.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: eeso]
    #24007038 - 01/13/17 12:25 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I'm just as 'native american' as every native american ever born here.
I didn't come from somewhere else. We all came from Africa. Maybe my ancestors were, but so were the ancestors of the natives.


That quote is completely right though. We are very divided, but thanks inevitable because there are different opinions

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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #24007053 - 01/13/17 12:32 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

They can fix their own problems I dont care


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24007063 - 01/13/17 12:35 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

We must fix each other's problems and afterword, we will all be a community again


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #24007075 - 01/13/17 12:40 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Nothing we can do, they need to stop shooting eachother, walking out on their kids and mooching off the government.

I dont know or care how that mess got started, but theres no law keeping people in the ghetto


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24007135 - 01/13/17 01:08 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Once "white supremacy" is conquered and "black supremacy" takes over.  Any "black" person who participates in society in a positive manner rather than a divisive, race-baiting, poverty-pimping manner is seen as a coon or uncle tom or an oreo (black outside, white inside).  I worked with a guy that whenever a black guy came in dressed a certain way, he would talk to himself and call the guy and Oreo and a disgrace.  Every time.  He would say shit to the other black people like "What's wrong with this picture?" and just talk mad shit. 

I recently got into a discussion with one of my friends(B) whom I've known for half may life.  I've made music with him, gave him beats and recorded his songs for him all free.  He said something like "Light skinned brothers are coming back in style, we need to stick together" and I looked at my other friend that was with us and jokingly say "Us white people need to stick together!"  B then said to us "You do."

We were talking and I was trying to point out that life is what you make it, and the biggest thing holding black people back is their attitude towards society.  That black people own businesses, all kinds of government positions, are in all facets of society.  Hell the Sheriff of our town is a black man.  I asked if he knew who Thomas Sowell is. 

He then asked if I knew who Umar Johnson was.  I said no, and the discussion changed to something else.  I looked up Umar Johnson and its a bunch of Black Supremacist hate speech.  The guy literally says "If you're friends with white people, stay friends because it's good to be close to the enemy so you can get inside information when you are at war."  That shit broke my heart. 

This guy (B) is mixed, his mom is white and his dad is black.  This Umar Johnson guy said "Black people who mix with white people are traitors to the black race."  So this Umar Johnson guy, who my friend looks up to, is feeding his mind with hateful bullshit.  He looks up to a guy that says he is at war with his friends and his mother, and that his father is a traitor to black people. 

This guy represents the same group who was honored at the Super Bowl half-time last year.  Listen to how they laugh at the idea of killing a newborn infant.


Notice how this is taking place in a classroom?  39 seconds in "In order to affirm black life, white death has to occur"  This mentality is spreading, and pretending it isn't there won't make it go away.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack] * 1
    #24007266 - 01/13/17 02:03 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

How could we owe them anything? No body alive today had anything to do with slavery or any mistreatment.. this world is going backwards and is now being racist towards able bodied white men. What ever happened to hiring the best person possible regardless of gender or race? With equal hiring rights and quotas for certain minorities its creating a skewed system favoring minorities, which is racist in itself.. why can't we just choose the best possible person? Why do we need a certain amount of woman firefighters etc..? What about when a person dies in a fire because the woman was not able to pick a heavy person up and bring them to safety? Oh well atleast we made her feel good by hiring her...


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #24007269 - 01/13/17 02:04 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

why ask when, ask why


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: eeso]
    #24007290 - 01/13/17 02:10 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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'We' don't owe them shit. They have the 15th Amendment.




I would argue that if you mean white people by 'we', then ya white individuals don't owe black people anything but the usual respect. I'd argue the state however does still owe something


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Ezuma]
    #24007295 - 01/13/17 02:12 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

When you say "The State" who exactly are you speaking of?


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #24007303 - 01/13/17 02:14 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

now


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: imanlyman]
    #24007304 - 01/13/17 02:15 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

:shocked:


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack] * 1
    #24007329 - 01/13/17 02:22 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I don't owe them shit


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack]
    #24007342 - 01/13/17 02:26 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

We've still got Hollywood.. :nicesmile:


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack] * 2
    #24007360 - 01/13/17 02:34 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Idk op, but for sum reason just the thought of answering or even reading ur question makes me very tired.. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.. Idk maybe its the pot, or maybe its the pot..


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack]
    #24007480 - 01/13/17 03:06 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Its been paid, in blood, by the thousands.

Blaming people for other's actions because they share skin color is definition of racist.  My only debt is to faceless creditors.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #24007525 - 01/13/17 03:21 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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When you say "The State" who exactly are you speaking of?




the country as a whole, in the same way native Americans are imo owed something. Sure that usually means tax revenue taken from the general population, like everything else. However I don't think individual whites need to feel bad for what their ancestors may or may not have done, and certainly shouldn't be shamed.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Ezuma]
    #24007538 - 01/13/17 03:25 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

If we are handing out compensation for actions of the past against ancestors, then everybody is owed something.  Everybody. 

The Indians I grew up with and worked with had more rights and opportunities than I did and do.  You want to give them even more?  At my expense because I'm white?  Fuck that.


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    #24007563 - 01/13/17 03:33 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

True, at that rate Im owed reperations from Spain, Italy and England at least.

Maybe people should be ashamed at the weakness of their ancestors allowing themselves to be conquored. :lol:

I could take up a legal battle for an inheritance going back just 2 generations, Id likely win something out of it, but Ive got my own life to live and dont feel the need to grub around whining about entitlements.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: zZZz]
    #24007565 - 01/13/17 03:33 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Idk op, but for sum reason just the thought of answering or even reading ur question makes me very tired.. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.. Idk maybe its the pot, or maybe its the pot..




I don't smoke pot, maybe you need a tolerance break?


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack]
    #24007667 - 01/13/17 04:12 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

T blacks would be cool if we just blew some blunts and let em know we know life is tough too

I've always worried about people accusing me of stealing stuff. Though I wouldn't, its a bad feeling. Someone looses a $20, then they are looking at you fucked up and you can't prove you didn't.
Don't even have to be black, oeole just like blame. Blaming feels good


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: Ezuma]
    #24007746 - 01/13/17 04:41 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Quote:

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When you say "The State" who exactly are you speaking of?




the country as a whole, in the same way native Americans are imo owed something. Sure that usually means tax revenue taken from the general population, like everything else. However I don't think individual whites need to feel bad for what their ancestors may or may not have done, and certainly shouldn't be shamed.




Yet, you want my money to give to blacks and Native Americans?  Fuck that nonsense.  Where are my reparations? 

"However I don't think individual whites need to feel bad for what their ancestors may or may not have done"

That's very nice of you, I don't get to feel ashamed for something I had nothing to do with, thanks for that approval, but you just want me to give up my money. :huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: qman]
    #24007766 - 01/13/17 04:49 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I personally feel I owe them fucking nothing at all. :shrug:


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack]
    #24007820 - 01/13/17 05:14 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

We could probably settle this here and now for 'bout tree fiddy.


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    #24007949 - 01/13/17 06:19 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

astounding troll thread.

yes, the wording of the thread's title is ...stupid... to say the least.


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #24007956 - 01/13/17 06:23 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I'm not willing to pay that


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Re: At what point will we have paid our debt to african americans? [Re: stzacrack]
    #24007963 - 01/13/17 06:25 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

race war it is then.  african americans vs everyone that doesn't have african ancestors.


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    #24007998 - 01/13/17 06:39 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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everyone that doesn't have african ancestors.



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    #24008001 - 01/13/17 06:40 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Victory!


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    #24008004 - 01/13/17 06:41 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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