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counterfeiting money
    #24006038 - 01/13/17 01:01 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

At my work we're told to check 50's and 100's. This got me thinking about how easy it would be for someone to slip fake 20's and 10's past me assuming that they weren't made out of wood fiber and instead printed on fiber similar to US currency. Then you buy everything half price because you mix it in with your real money.
Has anyone attempted this or have any knowledge on the subject aside from the fact that it could land the person who attempted it in prison?


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 1
    #24006051 - 01/13/17 01:09 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

If I'm not mistaken the 20 dollar bill is the most commonly counterfeited bill in US currency for exactly this reason.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: TheScientificMethod]
    #24006056 - 01/13/17 01:16 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Yep..  I've worked at a few places that got notices from the bank that a bill in the deposit was counterfeit.  Luckily I didn't have to sign my name on the "list" because I wasn't the one that directly received it.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Amanita86]
    #24006150 - 01/13/17 03:17 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

When I was browsing darknet markets I saw counterfeit bills amongst other sketchy shit.

Pretty crazy that you can buy fake money online and pretty much double your $ with fakes.

Sketchy stuff, makes me wonder how much money is real these days.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: musiclover420]
    #24006154 - 01/13/17 03:26 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Man I'd rather sell drugs than make counterfeit money. You get caught stealing from the government, they're going to lock you up for DECADES.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Crystal G]
    #24006163 - 01/13/17 03:39 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Man I'd rather sell drugs than make counterfeit money. You get caught stealing from the government, they're going to lock you up for DECADES.






Maybe, but if you get caught with counterfeit money you will probably be at a "white collar" prison.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Lucis]
    #24006177 - 01/13/17 04:02 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Maybe, but if you get caught with counterfeit money you will probably be at a "white collar" prison.




I always thought "white collar prisons" are only for people who are rich enough to be able to pay to stay there.

I mean, you would be getting charged by the federal government most likely, so you would probably go to federal prison. I'm sure those are nicer than state prison.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Crystal G]
    #24006199 - 01/13/17 04:22 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I was cought with counterfeit money when I was 17.
(Someone gave it to me as payment, it's not like I even knew.)
I got in way worse trouble for that than the purse full of drugs I had.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: SARAtonin]
    #24006212 - 01/13/17 04:40 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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I was cought with counterfeit money when I was 17.
(Someone gave it to me as payment, it's not like I even knew.)
I got in way worse trouble for that than the purse full of drugs I had.




How did you get caught with it? Did you go to jail for that?


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #24006216 - 01/13/17 04:42 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

18 U.S. Code § 471 - Obligations or securities of United States

Whoever, with intent to defraud, falsely makes, forges, counterfeits, or alters any obligation or other security of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-25


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #24006220 - 01/13/17 04:47 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

ive seen shows on it but never did it nor seen anyone do it.

My friend and i did scan a 20 and printed it on Card stock :lol:

The closest i got to counterfeiting was i bought some metal washers and i tried to use them as quarters for the soda machines :lol:

Didnt work :nonono:


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #24006277 - 01/13/17 05:59 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I would love to know how to counterfeit money. It's one of my secret fantasies. That and robbing a bank.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #24006336 - 01/13/17 06:33 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

at one point my friends and i had shoe boxes full of fake bread.

its suprisingly easy. Feds'll come down on you hard though and its not worth it.

i think consequences, more than difficulty, are what stops most ppl.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Apostle]
    #24006354 - 01/13/17 06:41 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

With the redesigned Federal Reserve Notes starting circulation in 2003-2013 it's way harder.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Crystal G]
    #24006465 - 01/13/17 07:52 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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SARAtonin said:
I was cought with counterfeit money when I was 17.
(Someone gave it to me as payment, it's not like I even knew.)
I got in way worse trouble for that than the purse full of drugs I had.




How did you get caught with it? Did you go to jail for that?



It was the stupidest thing ever. I stole a cheese stick from King soopers and the security guard caught me and confiscated my purse.
It was so stupid it's not like I didn't have the money, I had over $300 on me at the time, I was just being impulsive.
But when the guard looked inside my purse he found a bunch of MDMA pills and mushrooms so he called the cops.
I was selling to people at my school at the time so everything was all preweighed out and divided into a bunch of different baggies so they gave my intent to sell as well.
When they were looking through the purse they also found the counterfeit money I had been paid with and busted me for that too.
Like I said before I was 17 at the time so no jail, but I did go to jive and my relationship with my parents pretty mych died that day.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: SARAtonin] * 1
    #24006590 - 01/13/17 08:58 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Ive seen fake shit before.

Seen lots of stuff for fake 100s, 50s, and 20s. I do believe I even seen 10s.

What caught me eye was the fake 1oz gold bars, now that would take some balls to pull that one off.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: LSDollar]
    #24006611 - 01/13/17 09:14 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I mean it's still done - but usually by 'heavy' groups in countries other than the USA. That's how it's claimed that North Korea gets a good portion of their funding.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: eeso] * 1
    #24006713 - 01/13/17 10:07 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

@patlal, This is a clip from a good vice doc about counterfeit money.



Here is the full doc for anyone who is interested



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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: lets drive around] * 1
    #24006844 - 01/13/17 11:03 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Thanks for that documentary. That's what I was looking for


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #24006853 - 01/13/17 11:09 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Crystal G said:
Man I'd rather sell drugs than make counterfeit money. You get caught stealing from the government, they're going to lock you up for DECADES.



Could go to prison for decades over mushrooms and DMT. May as well go big :lol:


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What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #24006863 - 01/13/17 11:13 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

There's a special way to disolve the ink on bills and then reprint back onto the bill. So you'd wash the ink off a bunch of 5's and turn them into 20's


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: trees]
    #24006886 - 01/13/17 11:22 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Do you know any further details on that by any chance?


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #24006899 - 01/13/17 11:31 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I went to school for commerical printing where they taught us how that works and it mostly dosent, it's no way for armatures or even intermediate.


Edited by JonBongGroovy (01/13/17 11:38 AM)


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: trees]
    #24006916 - 01/13/17 11:36 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

We had some shithead that we geve three chances to sell us weed in high school who burnt us every time.

We ended up printing fake (very fake money, plain white printer money, images didn't even line up) money and buying weed off of him.

He still burnt us even on that deal shorting the bud and giving us some nasty shit, but it was worth it to see him freaking out.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #24006924 - 01/13/17 11:38 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Lol fuck those shorters. The way I dealt with those people was stealing their  own money and using it to buy their weed. So I'd hang out and be friendly with them, and then grab money out of their wallet when they're not looking and then spend their money on their weed. Also, ask to see their bud, pinch nugs while aweing at their weed.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 1
    #24006930 - 01/13/17 11:40 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Do you know any further details on that by any chance?



People probably just use acetone ( with out looking up) just a guess.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Patlal]
    #24006939 - 01/13/17 11:44 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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I would love to know how to counterfeit money. It's one of my secret fantasies. That and robbing a bank.



Me and you both... buddy :wink:

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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Call-Me-Bob]
    #24006946 - 01/13/17 11:47 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

The average successful bank robbery only yields you about 5 grand. The average punishment for bank robery  is 10 years prison. The chance of the bank locking you inside the bank as soon as you try is pretty high. Is that worth it?


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: trees]
    #24007023 - 01/13/17 12:19 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Yeah, the idea of counterfeiting lots of money is perhaps a fun idea. I suggest one doesn't try it.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: eeso]
    #24007286 - 01/13/17 02:10 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Ive gotten a fake 20 and a 100 dollar bill before. The the 20 looks very real and i wasnt able to return it, but the hundred was a bit more obvious and that one got returned.

Once u get them ure pretty much fucked tho, ull be lucky to get a refund, so check ur bills ladies and gentlemen.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: zZZz]
    #24007418 - 01/13/17 02:47 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I never check bills and likewise rarely have my bills checked.

I can't wait until we move past paper currency though.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #24007512 - 01/13/17 03:17 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Ive never done it myself but Ive heard that the ink can be washed off of 5 dollar bills using purple cleaner, and then washed in the washing machine , ironed and reprinted on. Dude who got busted also told me a about how he would stuff the bills into his jeans and re wash them to make the bill appear aged as well.. The government does have their own shade of green that is not included in standard printing ink so the reprinted bills will be slightly off colored but will mark with a pen and has the water mark face, obviously will not match the president of the higher denomination. these bills are nearly impossible to notice in dimly lit rooms. The people who told me of these techniques did not do this for very long, they all got busted fast, they were all tweakers.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 1
    #24007526 - 01/13/17 03:21 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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At my work we're told to check 50's and 100's. This got me thinking about how easy it would be for someone to slip fake 20's and 10's past me assuming that they weren't made out of wood fiber and instead printed on fiber similar to US currency. Then you buy everything half price because you mix it in with your real money.
Has anyone attempted this or have any knowledge on the subject aside from the fact that it could land the person who attempted it in prison?





Morally, legally, intelligently, all are on the negative side.


This is a domino effect of bad, that leaves a.....paper trail.....and could wind you up in federal prison for life or dead.


Just work.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: vandago]
    #24007543 - 01/13/17 03:26 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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vandago said:
Quote:

Kush_Zombie said:
At my work we're told to check 50's and 100's. This got me thinking about how easy it would be for someone to slip fake 20's and 10's past me assuming that they weren't made out of wood fiber and instead printed on fiber similar to US currency. Then you buy everything half price because you mix it in with your real money.
Has anyone attempted this or have any knowledge on the subject aside from the fact that it could land the person who attempted it in prison?





Morally, legally, intelligently, all are on the negative side.


This is a domino effect of bad, that leaves a.....paper trail.....and could wind you up in federal prison for life or dead.


Just work.



Gtfo


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BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 1
    #24007569 - 01/13/17 03:35 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

i already reported :haha:



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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: trees]
    #24007610 - 01/13/17 03:49 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Sin crime detected


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #24007624 - 01/13/17 03:54 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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At my work we're told to check 50's and 100's. This got me thinking about how easy it would be for someone to slip fake 20's and 10's past me assuming that they weren't made out of wood fiber and instead printed on fiber similar to US currency. Then you buy everything half price because you mix it in with your real money.
Has anyone attempted this or have any knowledge on the subject aside from the fact that it could land the person who attempted it in prison?





Morally, legally, intelligently, all are on the negative side.


This is a domino effect of bad, that leaves a.....paper trail.....and could wind you up in federal prison for life or dead.


Just work.



Gtfo






Do you know any counterfeiters? You know why you don't? Because they are dead or in prison.


Every thing is on camera any store or restaurant you eat at, whereever you buy ANYTHING really.

I have had plenty of 10's and 20's swiped and even 5's


I know one person that put out counterfeit money and it was about a decade ago, and no one has seen him since.  It took a couple 100k before people found out where it was coming from but it's not a hard thing to trace back.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24007640 - 01/13/17 04:02 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Sin crime detected


Nobody move, remain in your domiciles and await the authorities

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It's not that it's a sin, when I say morally, I mean what happens when you go eat at a diner and leave a bunch of fake bills for the server, then she has to deal with the police?  That's pretty righteous of you!

God would probably just laugh.

I doubt that server would though, but fuck everyone, make money and gtfo right?


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    #24007672 - 01/13/17 04:12 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

:excuseme:

Its for the governing hand to determine what is right and wrong, your faithless blasphemy is disturbing, please remain in your domicile and await the authorities.


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    #24007678 - 01/13/17 04:14 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Wait......that's not a hooker I ordered?


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #24008501 - 01/13/17 11:40 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Do you know any further details on that by any chance?




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    #24008507 - 01/13/17 11:44 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

counterfeiting money by the bill seems like a waste of time.


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    #24008829 - 01/14/17 03:51 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

The whole thing just fascinates me. I'll probably never do anything like this and if I ever did it would be a small amount just for shits and giggles


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    #24008909 - 01/14/17 05:32 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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I would love to know how to counterfeit money. It's one of my secret fantasies. That and robbing a bank.





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    #24008974 - 01/14/17 06:32 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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I would love to know how to counterfeit money. It's one of my secret fantasies. That and robbing a bank.





Do you realize that if you spend counterfeit money, you are stealing directly from the person you are paying? They deliver their goods and services to you and you scam them.




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    #24008977 - 01/14/17 06:34 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

So you'd wish you had a stack of fake money so you can cheat everyone around you to your advantage at their expense? Interesting.
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    #24008980 - 01/14/17 06:39 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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So you'd wish you had a stack of fake money so you can cheat everyone around you to your advantage at their expense? Interesting.
I hadn't expected this of you.




Jesus. My mouth isn't big enough to fit all the words you jsut tried fitting in there....

I spend it on shit like gas and big companies. I wouldn't pass fake cash at a mom and pop shop.


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    #24009001 - 01/14/17 06:59 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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The average successful bank robbery only yields you about 5 grand. The average punishment for bank robery  is 10 years prison. The chance of the bank locking you inside the bank as soon as you try is pretty high. Is that worth it?



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    #24009052 - 01/14/17 07:39 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Counterfeit arcade tokens.
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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: psilly the kid]
    #24009059 - 01/14/17 07:42 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

OP instead of counterfeiting money, you should just consider robbing drug dealer's houses when they're away from home.

You know they're going to have a ton of cash lying around somewhere, and they aren't going to call the cops. It's genius. You just better make damn sure they don't find out who you are or where you're live, because they'll fucking killllll you.


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    #24009081 - 01/14/17 07:54 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Nah stealing isn't the solution starting a business is


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    #24009091 - 01/14/17 08:01 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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You just better make damn sure they don't find out who you are or where you're live





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    #24009103 - 01/14/17 08:08 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Or how about we all get together to make a better place where money or even the very idea of it is nonexistent and everyrhing is everyone's?


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    #24009113 - 01/14/17 08:15 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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    #24009122 - 01/14/17 08:21 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Or how about we all get together to make a better place where money or even the very idea of it is nonexistent and everyrhing is everyone's?





A Shroomery commune! All good and well but you'll have to pry my toothbrush from my cold dead hands! There is a thing as taking "everything is everyone's" too far! Get your own toothbrush :grin:


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    #24009135 - 01/14/17 08:26 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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I would love to know how to counterfeit money. It's one of my secret fantasies. That and robbing a bank.





Do you realize that if you spend counterfeit money, you are stealing directly from the person you are paying? They deliver their goods and services to you and you scam them.



The weird thing is that with a perfect enough fake, there really is no tangible difference to the recipient or anyone else down the line who encounters it in circulation. It just hurts the value of the currency overall (but not by very much unless it's done one a very large scale). Not that I condone counterfeiting, it's just weird how much depends on this artificial rarity.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: psi] * 1
    #24009149 - 01/14/17 08:35 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Actually all money IS fake money, because we used to have coins of gold and silver that had the value of the gold and silver within it. So, your coin was worth the same at the bank as at the jeweler or the smelter.

Then they gave us pieces of paper we could EXCHANGE for gold and silver.

Then money became a number on a piece of paper.

Then a number on a card or in a computer.

Our (great) grandfathers had Real Money. The money we have is fancy monopoly money.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Asante]
    #24009221 - 01/14/17 09:09 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Bleach and Microwave with a high quality laser printer.

It would be cheaper to just buy the counterfeits. I've seen it boldly being sold on letgo for 10 times return rate on bills... 300 gets you 3k. IDK quality but people use fake bills for music videos and the like. 50 Cent has a few 100k in fake bills but is not arrested for some reason.


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Asante]
    #24009295 - 01/14/17 09:38 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Actually all money IS fake money, because we used to have coins of gold and silver that had the value of the gold and silver within it. So, your coin was worth the same at the bank as at the jeweler or the smelter.

Then they gave us pieces of paper we could EXCHANGE for gold and silver.

Then money became a number on a piece of paper.

Then a number on a card or in a computer.

Our (great) grandfathers had Real Money. The money we have is fancy monopoly money.



I'll never be able to wrap my head around this concept. How the hell do you make something like this actualy take off in first place?


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    #24009336 - 01/14/17 09:57 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

I hear there's a super note that's very hard to catch..


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    #24009346 - 01/14/17 10:00 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Actually all money IS fake money, because we used to have coins of gold and silver that had the value of the gold and silver within it. So, your coin was worth the same at the bank as at the jeweler or the smelter.

Then they gave us pieces of paper we could EXCHANGE for gold and silver.

Then money became a number on a piece of paper.

Then a number on a card or in a computer.

Our (great) grandfathers had Real Money. The money we have is fancy monopoly money.



I'll never be able to wrap my head around this concept. How the hell do you make something like this actualy take off in first place?





The frog in the pot with water. The water heats so slowly that the frog doesnt leap out and instead gets boiled to death.

Imagine that we had coins of gold and silver and suddenly they'd swap it for "legal tender" ("legal tinder" actually) There'd be a revolution. But over a few generations, people eat it up like poptarts.


We swapped THIS:



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    #24009393 - 01/14/17 10:17 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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I hear there's a super note that's very hard to catch..



Yeah IIRC North Korea is believed to be involved in making very good quality counterfeits of US currency.


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    #24009482 - 01/14/17 10:48 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

There's nothing wrong with our monetary system, the only real issue is government corruption leading to general mismanagement.
Gold and silver are worth as little in a practical sense as paper, and would only complicate matters regarding digital spending.

Bartering is an inferior system for non-hunter gatherers, our current system is much more practical for contemporary civization than any ot the older systems.


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    #24009497 - 01/14/17 10:53 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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There's nothing wrong with our monetary system, the only real issue is government corruption leading to general mismanagement.
Gold and silver are worth as little in a practical sense as paper, and would only complicate matters regarding digital spending.

Bartering is an inferior system for non-hunter gatherers, our current system is much more practical for contemporary civization than any ot the older systems.





Thats so wrong!

Gold and especialy silver are vital for, among things, the electronics industry, they are commodities with an intrinsic value, if only their cost of mining.

Also, while the government is mismanaging things, the government doesn;t issue the money. Money creation worldwide is in the hands of the international banking cartel, which includes the Federal Reserve. Nothing federal about it, its a private bank and its laying a huge scam on the people AND the governments.

Watch this, its fun to watch and its all true:



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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Asante]
    #24009517 - 01/14/17 11:01 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

I American money still the easiest to counterfeit nowadays?

Canadian money used to be easy-ish to fake, now with the see-through holographic plastic bills, you need to be a genius to do it...



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    #24009536 - 01/14/17 11:08 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Paper also has many uses, gold and silver are far from scarce

Paper isnt going anywhere, not until its replaced by digital currency
If the governments of the world didnt waste and borrow like autists, there would be no flaw in the international economic scheme


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    #24009547 - 01/14/17 11:11 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Paper also has many uses, gold and silver are far from scarce




They're pretty scarce compared to paper though.


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    #24009549 - 01/14/17 11:11 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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So you'd wish you had a stack of fake money so you can cheat everyone around you to your advantage at their expense? Interesting.
I hadn't expected this of you.




Jesus. My mouth isn't big enough to fit all the words you jsut tried fitting in there....

I spend it on shit like gas and big companies. I wouldn't pass fake cash at a mom and pop shop.





gas stations buy their gas from a big company, exxon doesnt own the gas stations,
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    #24009552 - 01/14/17 11:12 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Paper also has many uses, gold and silver are far from scarce




They're pretty scarce compared to paper though.




which is why they're a shitty form of currency


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Re: counterfeiting money [Re: Asante]
    #24009953 - 01/14/17 02:46 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Actually all money IS fake money, because we used to have coins of gold and silver that had the value of the gold and silver within it. So, your coin was worth the same at the bank as at the jeweler or the smelter.

Then they gave us pieces of paper we could EXCHANGE for gold and silver.

Then money became a number on a piece of paper.

Then a number on a card or in a computer.

Our (great) grandfathers had Real Money. The money we have is fancy monopoly money.




Nah even gold and other precious metals and gems is but a placeholder for usable goods. Barter is real money. Everybody let's trade.....idfk something.


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    #24010037 - 01/14/17 03:13 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Or just forget about money and just take care of each other like it should be.


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    #24010042 - 01/14/17 03:15 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Are you a commie:wink:


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    #24010072 - 01/14/17 03:29 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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There's nothing wrong with our monetary system, the only real issue is government corruption leading to general mismanagement.
Gold and silver are worth as little in a practical sense as paper, and would only complicate matters regarding digital spending.

Bartering is an inferior system for non-hunter gatherers, our current system is much more practical for contemporary civization than any ot the older systems.




"There's nothing wrong with our monetary system"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-04/global-debt-hits-325-world-gdp-rises-record-217-trillion

That's debt that can NEVER be paid back, what do you think is going to happen when the world realizes that fact?

http://disruptiveinvestor.com/index.php/economy-global/30-money-velocity-in-united-states-at-a-60-year-low-30-money-velocity-in-united-states-at-a-60-year-low

And now the hoarding is getting more and more intense, it's eventually going to break to the upside.

"Gold and silver are worth as little...as paper"

Oh, you're going to see that it's not going to be the case in the coming years.  :lol:


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    #24010210 - 01/14/17 04:21 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Paper also has many uses, gold and silver are far from scarce





I have taken the effort to crunch the numbers and make an accurate image representation of just how wrong you are my friend :smile:





If you have $50 worth of silver or $900 worth of gold you have your entire world share of the metal.

5 Silver dollars and a gold necklace is all there is!

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    #24010236 - 01/14/17 04:29 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Ive done it and gotten away with it.


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    #24012165 - 01/15/17 12:52 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Counterfeit coupons


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