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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24047923 - 01/29/17 01:55 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

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I hope so! Plenty to come probably, 13 strains are involved here... although I gotta say Allen Strain has been a clear fav so far.



Harvested another 9 or 10 grams from Idiot Tub too, which seems to be... producing fruit as normal actually.



13 strains? Do you mean variety or have you isolated 13 separate strains on agar?  Nice shroom by the way.




Oh, I absolutely do not mean I have 13 isolates on agar. I wish. This is like my first time ever growing mushrooms so I'm not entirely there yet. I just meant variety of spores. I just know that strain chat is less than great so I wasn't really getting into the huge list.

Here'd today's nice pictures - while it was a relatively modest 17.76 grams, this Brazilian was awesome and toadstool-looking.



This is actually the same cake that did the big in-vitro shrooms, after I pulled those off I dunked and rolled it (perhaps I shouldn't have rolled, but I wasn't thinking), and now it's produced this. Which was impressive enough to attempt to clone in LC so I'll report back when that fails horribly.

I'm still having huge moisture problems in the one bigger chamber - but also I'm not? I mean it would appear I am, the cakes are dry, they're bruising from it, most of the fruits are pretty small and weak. Thing is, the humidity's pinned at 99% with occasional dips to 96%. Always is. Measured by more than one sensor from more than one manufacturer. But I'm apparently still having humidity problems. I'm going to try throwing in another inch of wet perlite tomorrow since although it's decent I didn't QUITE have enough that day.


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: Shameful Idiot]
    #24048033 - 01/29/17 04:17 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

Nice get a print from that, clone would be better.


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24048069 - 01/29/17 05:36 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

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Nice get a print from that, clone would be better.




I got a print from a more-giant one yesterday, might be my first viable print. Assuming I didn't fuck up the LC tek (this is not a safe assumption), I actually did clone that one, I guess I'll find out in a few days if that's a lie or not.


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: Shameful Idiot]
    #24053425 - 01/31/17 01:17 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck the living room fruiting chamber so god damn hard, I'm sure it's totally the fault of the fruiting chamber, which is why adding another inch and a half of perlite fixed it, and not my fault at all.

Well, hopefully it works out. There's no more god damn room in the closet for anything but one small chamber. I put half the cakes to re-dunk while I was changing the perlite, so I'll put those back in tonight and see how they do.

Had a nice-looking cluster today.



Also I'd say that qualifies as a successful spore print. Hot damn.



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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: Shameful Idiot]
    #24057140 - 02/01/17 12:21 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

this is a great thread,  super funny.  great work!  hope to have some results myself soon.


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: piglet]
    #24057565 - 02/01/17 03:15 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Nice work fold that bitch up and seal it up.


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: piglet]
    #24059236 - 02/02/17 02:45 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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this is a great thread,  super funny.  great work!  hope to have some results myself soon.




I'm sure you will! Literally 100% of my mistakes were thinking I was too smart to follow simple directions...

The Idiot Tub is doing well today, other than one twisty-stemmed runt. Still just fanning and misting once a day.



It's getting a bit colder outside these days so the grow closet temperature has been fluctuating a bit as well - but never below 21C thankfully.


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: Shameful Idiot]
    #24061808 - 02/03/17 02:20 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Well those were the shrooms from Idiot Tub that WEREN'T probably drunk, at least.



It's also shrunk away from the sides a bit on the top layer - so I just misted the living hell out of it. Hopefully that works? It's actually working out pretty well for something that was supposed to fail horribly.

Two fruiting chambers have had their perlite re-soaked (put the tubs in a bathtub filled to a very precise level), so hopefully they start doing better. Sadly whatever tek I followed neglected to mention re-wetting perlite between flushes. With an ambient humidity in the closet of 50-55% this is, it turns out, is sort of necessary. Looking to buy some H2O2 in the next little bit, I thought I had some but it's just a few ounces in the bottom of the bottle.


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: Shameful Idiot]
    #24061834 - 02/03/17 02:51 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

not bad for an old tek :yesnod:


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24062698 - 02/03/17 01:20 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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not bad for an old tek :yesnod:




Old as in outdated/wrong or old as in... just old? I mostly went based on reading a million grow logs and watching RR's videos.

I'm aware there's a bunch of PF tek improvements that I didn't do (gypsum, etc), but for a first grow I didn't want to make it too complicated. Idiot Tub (which I guess qualifies as a monotub except bad and halfassed and wrong) is actually doing so well and producing so well that I might do something similar (except with a real casing material) in the future. I also have a couple ~1qt WBS jars that I thought weren't doing anything but were in fact just being very slow and actually ARE doing something. The LC is doing well, no signs of any contamination at all so far, and the tissue sample is getting nice and fuzzy (it's still too small to take a worthwhile picture of without a macro lens, which I do have but it's a real bastard to chase it down and keep it from floating away.)

In other news, apparently 1/4 pint cakes aren't very hard to lift...



The re-wetting of the perlite in two of the fruiting chambers seems to have helped a lot, they're both back up to 99-100% RH and the cakes aren't looking as dry. It HAD been a few weeks and even with the humidifier running the closet is still like 40-45% RH and decently warm.

This, apparently, is what your readings will look like with a SGFC that's struggling to keep up. The humidity numbers never really get scary but it's obviously not working as it should.



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    #24063161 - 02/03/17 05:04 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

You shouldnt worry about humidity and the other crap. You arent measuring the surface of the cake and thats what matters. Meters have no place in or around an sgfc its all by eye, your giving yourself stuff to worry about that really doesnt matter.


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    #24063663 - 02/03/17 09:00 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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You shouldnt worry about humidity and the other crap. You arent measuring the surface of the cake and thats what matters. Meters have no place in or around an sgfc its all by eye, your giving yourself stuff to worry about that really doesnt matter.




That was basically confirming what my eyes were telling me (no condensation at all, cakes LOOKED dry, were bruising, few pins, tiny halfassed fruits, etc.) It's not so much that I sit here and stare at humidity readings all day, it's that the closet is across the house and I'm lazy as shit and want to be able to check that the heater and humidifier are still working without leaving the couch.

Inoculating some more jars tonight, still undecided if I'll use the good spores or make a syringe (or five) from the huge dark spore print I got


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: Shameful Idiot]
    #24064254 - 02/04/17 03:26 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Humidifiers arent ment for sgfcs either lol but each to their own I suppose. Maybe make a syringe and test it on one jar, it will almost certainly be contaminated as its fruited in unsterile conditions but pf cakes are very forgiving. Have a look into agar to clean up your spores and you can make yourself and LC so one drop of spore syringe can become unlimited LCs to unlimited grows. There are some very easy agar teks on here look for pasty plates for no pour agar or any of the pour agar teks I personally use pour agar in petri dishes.


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24066096 - 02/04/17 09:02 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Humidifiers arent ment for sgfcs either lol but each to their own I suppose. Maybe make a syringe and test it on one jar, it will almost certainly be contaminated as its fruited in unsterile conditions but pf cakes are very forgiving. Have a look into agar to clean up your spores and you can make yourself and LC so one drop of spore syringe can become unlimited LCs to unlimited grows. There are some very easy agar teks on here look for pasty plates for no pour agar or any of the pour agar teks I personally use pour agar in petri dishes.




It's... well, I was going to say it's a long story, but it's more a stupid one.

See the original post for details but basically I live in an old house and it's cold as balls so there's a heater in the closet (a very small one), but that drops the humidity in there so low that SGFCs can't keep above 75%, so the humidifier runs on the same duty cycle as the heater. It's not running INTO the SGFCs or anything like that, just raising the ambient humidity of the area they're in.

My spore place sells pretty legit and reasonably-priced agar kits (pre-poured/sterile, etc) but I've been wary of getting too hard into that without either a still-air box or flow hood.

Back when I was obsessively checking BRF jars with dime-sized areas of growth every hour I was considering buying a kit (the box kind), now I'm glad I didn't.


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: Shameful Idiot]
    #24066550 - 02/05/17 03:37 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Well now THIS is interesting. So one of my Albino A+ cakes (I think I got the syringe as a freebie from my vendor) is having its second flush and... managed to make one that is very non albino.



I don't think it's a separate colony of a different strain or anything, the first flush and every other cake has been nothing but white. I guess they can mutate back to normal sometimes too?

Also I guess my last dunk fucked up. "Nah, just rinse the dunking tank out with cold water, it's only been sitting there half full of lukewarm water for like... 4 days." RIP four cakes to trich and one to cobweb, which is in fact all the cakes that got dunked that day.

The fact that I'm barely even pissed off about this probably gives some indication of exactly how carried away I got inoculating jars.


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: Shameful Idiot]
    #24066603 - 02/05/17 05:15 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

It happens there are tonnes of different strains in a ms syringe so it isnt that unusal. They are looking a little dry btw.


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    #24066625 - 02/05/17 05:59 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

This gives me hope thank you lol


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    #24066628 - 02/05/17 06:01 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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It happens there are tonnes of different strains in a ms syringe so it isnt that unusal. They are looking a little dry btw.




Story of my damn life. I just took the ambient humidifier off the duty cycle controller and put it on full-time. Even after misting I can only keep the RH at 100% for a couple hours.


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: Shameful Idiot]
    #24069121 - 02/06/17 05:07 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

...which it turns out wasn't enough since I also turned it down a bit, I went into the closet earlier and the FC closest to the heater but farthest from the humidifier was at 81%. I turned it up a bit. Contrary to popular belief I don't actually have a million environmental sensors and have one in every closet or chamber, I just have a couple for chambers I have a reason to be worried about.

Got another nice toadstool today, this one Cambodian. Didn't weigh it, but did attempt an LC of it.



Hopefully leaving the ambient humidifier on more regularly helps my dryness problems. Can't god damn wait for it not to be winter so I don't have to run the heat so much in the house and dry it out... can't say I enjoy 30% RH any more than they do.


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Re: A Grow Log, An Idiot Tub, Some Nerd Crap... And A Question [Re: Shameful Idiot]
    #24071584 - 02/07/17 03:19 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Well that worked. Put the humidifier on all the time, problems pretty much solved other than fine-tuning the output a little and pointing it somewhere sensible (which is challenging in a small space with shelves.) Everything's looking happy and not-dry now though, and the chamber that was at 81% RH is back up to 99% (or 100%, there's only two digits on this halfassed sensor.)

In another episode of "well that escalated quickly"... the first picture was taken last night at around 8PM.



Yeah, that's a BRF cake on its side, there was a really nice mushroom growing out of the bottom and there weren't any other pins on it so it seemed like a decent idea.

This is tonight at around 11PM.



The veil's a bit fucked from spending half its life on the bottom of a cake, but a respectable 12.4 wet grams.


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