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Offlinebeforethedawn
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I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" * 1
    #24005960 - 01/12/17 11:54 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Something I've come to realise is, not being yourself, just your natural personality, whatever flaws or limitations or peculiarities, strengths, powers it has or does not have. . . totally drains your vitality.

There is no way forward in life except being who you are with its limitless and limited whatever.

If you suck at sport, you're not going to be sporty.
If you're great at academia, you're going to be academically successful.
Funny, not funny, whatever . . .

I mean,

There is no way we can be anything but what we are. If we change who we are, it's because we've improved an aspect of who were originally were, and still are.

Total self-acceptance, that is the key to mental health.

Every time you doubt yourself, dislike yourself, berate yourself, you're swimming upstream against an infinite river.

There is no point to doubting yourself, disliking yourself, because eventually, you will have to un-doubt and un-dislike yourself in order to do anything at all.

There are choices in life but who you are is not one of them.

Agree disagree?

Elaborate?


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Re: I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24005986 - 01/13/17 12:10 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Agree. I don't understand it either in the general sense. I can usually see a 'fake' person a mile away and when people act like how they think they should act it comes off really awkward to me. Must take alot out of you mentally and emotionally to be someone you really aren't.

Sometimes though I believe some people are just not as confident in being themselves in certain situations. Like sometimes you will do something out of your character because you don't know how you would react, so you react like how you saw someone else act. Although that might be considered just your normal flaws until you learn to handle situations comfortably as yourself.

Maybe it is just balancing around your personality. Too much emphasis on one trait and not enough for other traits. :shrug:


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Re: I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24006040 - 01/13/17 01:03 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

sounds good in theory
but what is the self?
partly memories
and when
alzheimer's , or dementia, or old age begins to take it's toll ...
or when a person has internal conflicts
as we all do
it's perhaps not so straight forward...

on the other hand
certainly the fashion industry
would go kaput if folks really trusted themselves

society depends or functions, on or with, lots of phoniness


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Re: I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24006201 - 01/13/17 04:23 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

The trip is that you're always you bra, that and your brain is electrically active in a 24 hour cycle.


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Re: I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24006511 - 01/13/17 08:21 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

We are infinite beings living within a finite form. The finite form has limitations, but our infinite beings can evolve the form and expression much more than we usually allow. I think what is important is to believe that change and refinement is always possible. A lot of crystallization of the finite limitations is just from habituation. :smile:


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Re: I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" [Re: deff]
    #24006943 - 01/13/17 11:46 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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deff said:
We are infinite beings living within a finite form. The finite form has limitations, but our infinite beings can evolve the form and expression much more than we usually allow. I think what is important is to believe that change and refinement is always possible. A lot of crystallization of the finite limitations is just from habituation. :smile:




A big part of my life has been to take what's finite, and prolong it.  It's called fixing up houses.  To change what has been, to refine it.  Most sit on their asses and have neither the energy, or the money to do what I do.  Thankfully, they have food stamps or things could get ugly.


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Re: I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" [Re: deff]
    #24007988 - 01/13/17 06:34 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Quote:

deff said:
We are infinite beings living within a finite form. The finite form has limitations, but our infinite beings can evolve the form and expression much more than we usually allow. I think what is important is to believe that change and refinement is always possible. A lot of crystallization of the finite limitations is just from habituation. :smile:




How strongly have you tested this? This infinite being business.


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Re: I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24008005 - 01/13/17 06:42 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Quote:

beforethedawn said:
Something I've come to realise is, not being yourself, just your natural personality, whatever flaws or limitations or peculiarities, strengths, powers it has or does not have. . . totally drains your vitality.

There is no way forward in life except being who you are with its limitless and limited whatever.

If you suck at sport, you're not going to be sporty.
If you're great at academia, you're going to be academically successful.
Funny, not funny, whatever . . .

I mean,

There is no way we can be anything but what we are. If we change who we are, it's because we've improved an aspect of who were originally were, and still are.

Total self-acceptance, that is the key to mental health.

Every time you doubt yourself, dislike yourself, berate yourself, you're swimming upstream against an infinite river.

There is no point to doubting yourself, disliking yourself, because eventually, you will have to un-doubt and un-dislike yourself in order to do anything at all.

There are choices in life but who you are is not one of them.

Agree disagree?

Elaborate?




What about those who have no idea who they are and are still discovering where the edges of themselves are, if there are edges? Go the Dory route and just keep swimming?


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Re: I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" [Re: Kickle] * 1
    #24008108 - 01/13/17 07:26 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Kickle said:
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deff said:
We are infinite beings living within a finite form. The finite form has limitations, but our infinite beings can evolve the form and expression much more than we usually allow. I think what is important is to believe that change and refinement is always possible. A lot of crystallization of the finite limitations is just from habituation. :smile:




How strongly have you tested this? This infinite being business.




it's a work in progress :smile: though it's more the infinite being testing its finite expression - and the finite expression reflecting only a very partial awareness of this process back to the infinite being - or something along those lines :smile: but believing in limitations is the first step in strengthening them :smile:


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Re: I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" [Re: deff] * 2
    #24008342 - 01/13/17 09:58 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Quote:

deff said:

I think what is important is to believe that change and refinement is always possible.
A lot of crystallization of the finite limitations is just from habituation. :smile:




Yes, we are enormously resistant to change.

Usually we don't want to hear about the possibility of change, and sneer at the notion.

We'd rather make the excuse that our misery is perfectly normal.

"That's just life!"


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Re: I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #24008514 - 01/13/17 11:48 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Well that's an interesting point, that we can evolve what we've got.

Perhaps we can evolve into a deeper expression of who we are . . .


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Re: I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24009350 - 01/14/17 10:01 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

A serial killer might say they were "being themselves" when they murdered some amount of people.

A crazy person might say they were "being themselves" when they covered themselves with feces and ran naked through a playground because their dog told them to.

What if by knowing thyself, you're opening up the gates of "hell" to those that have to associate with you?


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Re: I don't really understand how you can get anywhere without "being yourself" [Re: Lucis]
    #24011444 - 01/15/17 07:58 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Would it be to sacramental to say that some human beings are better than others?

Not of race, for we all have red blood; but of personality and emotional intellect.


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