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Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study...
#24005130 - 01/12/17 06:35 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4114634/Marijuana-DOES-cause-schizophrenia-triggers-heart-attacks-experts-say-landmark-study-slams-drug-s-medical-benefits-unproven.html Marijuana DOES cause schizophrenia and triggers heart attacks, experts say in landmark study that slams most of the drug's medical benefits as 'unproven'
By Mia De Graaf For Dailymail.com and Associated Press
Published: 14:47 EST, 12 January 2017 | Updated: 19:09 EST, 12 January 2017
Marijuana does raise the risk of getting schizophrenia and triggers heart attacks, according to the most significant study on the drug's effects to date.
A federal advisory panel admitted cannabis can almost certainly ease chronic pain, and might help some people sleep.
But it dismisses most of the drug's other supposedly 'medical benefits' as unproven.
Crucially, the researchers concluded there is not enough research to say whether marijuana effectively treats epilepsy - one of the most widely-recognized reasons for cannabis prescriptions.
The report also casts doubt on using cannabis to treat cancers, irritable bowel syndrome, or certain symptoms of Parkinson's disease, or helping people beat addictions.
 A federal advisory panel admitted cannabis can almost certainly ease chronic pain, and might help people sleep. But it dismisses most of the drug's other 'medical benefits' as unproven
The experts called for a national effort to learn more about marijuana and its chemical cousins, including similarly acting compounds called cannabinoids.
In fact, the current lack of scientific information 'poses a public health risk,' said the report, released by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine.
Patients, health care professionals and policy makers need more evidence to make sound decisions, it said.
Several factors have limited research. While the federal government has approved some medicines containing ingredients found in marijuana, it still classifies marijuana as illegal and imposes restrictions on research. So scientists have to jump through bureaucratic hoops that some find daunting, the report said.
A federal focus on paying for studies of potential harms has also impeded research into possible health benefits, the report said. The range of marijuana products available for study has also been restricted, although the government is expanding the number of approved suppliers.
Twenty-eight states and the District of Columbia have legalized marijuana for a variety of medical uses, and eight of those states plus the district have also legalized it for recreational use.
The report lists nearly 100 conclusions about marijuana and its similarly acting chemical cousins, drawing on studies published since 1999.
It found strong evidence, for example, that marijuana can treat chronic pain in adults and that similar compounds ease nausea from chemotherapy, with varying degrees of evidence for treating muscle stiffness and spasms in multiple sclerosis.
Limited evidence says marijuana or the other compounds can boost appetite in people with HIV or AIDS, and ease symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, the report concluded.
There may be more evidence soon: a study in Colorado is investigating the use of marijuana to treat PTSD.
Turning to potential harms, the committee concluded:
Strong evidence links marijuana use to the risk of developing schizophrenia and other causes of psychosis, with the highest risk among the most frequent users. Some evidence suggests a small increased risk for developing depressive disorders, but there's no evidence either way on whether it affects the course or symptoms of such disorders, or the risk of developing post-traumatic stress disorder. There's strong evidence that using marijuana increases the risk of a traffic accident, but no clear indication that it promotes workplace accidents or injuries, or death from a marijuana overdose. There's only weak evidence for the idea that it hurts school achievement, raises unemployment rates or harms social functioning. For pregnant women who smoke pot, there's strong evidence of reduced birthweight but only weak evidence of any effect on pregnancy complications for the mother, or an infant's need for admission to intensive care. There's not enough evidence to show whether it affects the child later, like sudden infant death syndrome or substance use. Some evidence suggests there's no link to lung cancer in marijuana smokers. But there's no evidence, or insufficient evidence, to support or rebut any link to developing cancers of the prostate, cervix, bladder, or esophagus. Substantial evidence links pot smoking to worse respiratory symptoms and more frequent episodes of chronic bronchitis. There's weak evidence that suggests smoking marijuana can trigger a heart attack, especially for people at high risk of heart disease. But there's no evidence either way on whether chronic use affects a person's risk of a heart attack. Some evidence suggests a link between using marijuana and developing a dependence on or abuse of other substances, including alcohol, tobacco and illicit drugs.
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: Ellis Dee] 5
#24005154 - 01/12/17 06:43 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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The Daily Mail is the scientific journal that I always turn to for accurate representation of facts. This must be true and unbiased. Now to turn the page and learn if Prince Charles may in fact be a werewolf.
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: fissionchips]
#24005218 - 01/12/17 07:05 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Ya this so called propaganda, i mean study seems wacked.
I know smoking good herb daily, i pinch a nice meaty loaf.
Psychosis is not schizophrenia. Very different organic brain diseases caused or brought about by many things. Stress can trigger psychosis.
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: Morel Guy]
#24005468 - 01/12/17 08:22 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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ive had psychosis from psychedelics and weed and stuff and i still smoke weed everyday and use dmt or mushrooms once every few months or so. but it also might be genetic because my mother shows signs of schizo-type behavior like psychosis, hearing voices(jesus freak), and claims to be attacked at night by "evil spirits" and always sleeps with lights on. that might be some sort of sleep paralysis, she is also paranoid about energies and claims negative energies are coming from the tv. she also goes to great lengths to avoid looking at anything she feels is "demonic" which is fucking everything. halloween at my house sucks ass because of her now. but she otherwise behaves normally and is coherent in most other areas of life so can hold a job.
from what i have read psychosis does not equal schizophrenia because apparently schizophrenia must lead to deterioration of mental capability but i myself am functioning at a much greater level than i did before psychosis. Im much more driven, goal oriented and focused now.
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Edited by SleepyE (01/12/17 08:37 PM)
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: SleepyE]
#24005487 - 01/12/17 08:31 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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bullshit look at all the states with legal weed and tell me more people have schizophrenia
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: SleepyE]
#24005493 - 01/12/17 08:33 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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SleepyE said: from what i have read psychosis does not equal schizophrenia because apparently schizophrenia must lead to deterioration of mental capability but i myself am functioning at a much greater level than i did before psychosis. Im much more driven, goal oriented and focused now.
yeah for maybe two years most of the damage done from schizophrenia comes from taking their mind altering pharma drugs for however long they ask you schizophrenia is NOT life long nuero-degenerative like they make you beleive, it's not for example some hollywood movie with CGI and camera tricks
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: Konyap]
#24005518 - 01/12/17 08:40 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Crucially, the researchers concluded there is not enough research to say whether marijuana effectively treats epilepsy - one of the most widely-recognized reasons for cannabis prescriptions.
The report also casts doubt on using cannabis to treat cancers, irritable bowel syndrome, or certain symptoms of Parkinson's disease, or helping people beat addictions.
theses are admittedly the things it treats best because it doesn't cause nasty side effects
this news paper article is horrid, doesn't Montel Williams smoke pot for MS?
Edited by Konyap (01/12/17 08:42 PM)
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: Konyap]
#24005523 - 01/12/17 08:41 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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i dont take anti-psychotics. i was never diagnosed. but i heard voices, and thought things on the tv and songs were sending me hidden messages and trying to influence me. i thought i was jesus/God and thought everyone know who i was but pretended not to so i would just go along with that but i could have easily been paranoid and tried to get answers out of someone who didnt have any for me i also thought people were secretly talking about me in conversations and like posts on the internet.
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Edited by SleepyE (01/12/17 08:47 PM)
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: SleepyE]
#24005526 - 01/12/17 08:43 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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that's pretty normal for a schizophrenic who beleives in the supernatural
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: Konyap]
#24005532 - 01/12/17 08:44 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Konyap said: that's pretty normal for a schizophrenic who beleives in the supernatural
i like that about them i like that about me
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Edited by SleepyE (01/12/17 08:44 PM)
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: SleepyE] 1
#24005572 - 01/12/17 08:59 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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I smoked one joint and all 14 of me had a heart attack.
This is legit.
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: vandago]
#24005575 - 01/12/17 09:01 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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dont go out like gary johnson
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: vandago]
#24005699 - 01/12/17 09:48 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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vandago said: I smoked one joint and all 14 of me had a heart attack.
This is legit.
i'm glad we weren't the only ones over here. the devils weeds are a dangerous.
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: krishnalove]
#24005793 - 01/12/17 10:27 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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The tittle is misleading. This info is pretty unbiased and accurate I feel. People with serious heart problems probably shouldn't smoke weed. Kids shouldn't smoke weed. It's amazing for chronic pain. This study pretty much confirmed what any reasonable knowledable person already knew
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: spaceyvibess]
#24006066 - 01/13/17 01:29 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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I don't think teens should either not legally anyway
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: Konyap]
#24006072 - 01/13/17 01:35 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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It's funny stoners always say "there's no proof weed is harmful" and then an analysis of 10,000 scientific studies comes and says it may not be totally harmless and everyone thinks it's propaganda
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: spaceyvibess]
#24006077 - 01/13/17 01:37 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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And I agree konyap but really a lot of teens will try it and most won't suffer negative effects. Most won't even like it or repeat it. Better weed than more harmful drugs. Honestly it's probably best to wait until you're 25 to experiment with drugs
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: SleepyE]
#24006219 - 01/13/17 04:45 AM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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SleepyE said: ive had psychosis from psychedelics and weed and stuff and i still smoke weed everyday and use dmt or mushrooms once every few months or so. but it also might be genetic because my mother shows signs of schizo-type behavior like psychosis, hearing voices(jesus freak), and claims to be attacked at night by "evil spirits" and always sleeps with lights on. that might be some sort of sleep paralysis, she is also paranoid about energies and claims negative energies are coming from the tv. she also goes to great lengths to avoid looking at anything she feels is "demonic" which is fucking everything. halloween at my house sucks ass because of her now. but she otherwise behaves normally and is coherent in most other areas of life so can hold a job.
from what i have read psychosis does not equal schizophrenia because apparently schizophrenia must lead to deterioration of mental capability but i myself am functioning at a much greater level than i did before psychosis. Im much more driven, goal oriented and focused now.
You are correct... schizophrenia and psychosis* are similar but two different beasts. Marijuana will not cause schizophrenia but it can make psychotic psymptoms arise or worsen, especially if the cannabidol content is low and the thc content high.
The article is very misleading... also, from what i understand, marijuana can be beneficial for people with heart problems as it reduces blood pressure long term, some of the cannabinoids are 5ht1a receptor agonists which dilate the blood vessels. Cortisol production may also positively be affected as well.
Edited by 404 (01/13/17 07:19 AM)
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: 404] 1
#24006266 - 01/13/17 05:44 AM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Schizophrenia is a 'psychotic disorder'. But schizophrenia has other symptoms than just psychosis. The 'positive symptoms' of schizophrenia are psychotic features, but schizophrenia also has 'negative symptoms'. (note that those are the terms used, not that they mean there are "good" and "bad" symptoms.)
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Re: Pot triggers schizophrenia, heart attacks, experts say in landmark study... [Re: eeso]
#24006274 - 01/13/17 05:58 AM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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schizophrenia is a cluster fuck of five different disorders by their standards now
saying something or someone is schizophrenic is like saying they have five different faces
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