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First Agar project. AA+ * 1
    #24003448 - 01/12/17 09:05 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Hello all,
This is my first journal/ grow log so bear with me please.

So I am brand new to this and like Kenetic said , “if you fail try again, and again if you must”.  Well I must, plus I figured if I succeed I have a good Isolation of an AA+, if not, I have learned what to do and what not to do and improved some my technique and knowledge along the way. Please give me advice and corrective criticism where it is needed.  Next time I do a transfer I will upload pictures of my SAB and my agar process.
My motivation behind this is the thread. Lets grow mushrooms 2017. And some beautiful pictures of isolations.


NOTE: Again I AM open to advice and corrective criticism, please be respectful, but I also do like to joke hah.

Everything is done by a few different TEK’s.  The agar recipes are taken from the general cultivation part General Cultivation section, subsection agar.  I first mix my ingredients dry, then add to cold water (I add extra water for the boiling portion, not much more though) and stir.  Once the mixture is well dissolved, I pour it into a pot and bring to a boil for a few minutes.  After it has boiled for a few minute I then move the sauce pan off the burner and move to the kitchen sink.  I run the Agar through a painter’s net strainer, to remove any bubble and film, it also has produced very clear agar for me. 


UPDATE!!!!!

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I've never pressure cooker agar more than a half hour. It only takes 15-20 minutes.

Wrap the edges of your dishes not the whole dish.

Find my agar TEK through the links in my signature

Nice job :rockon:





After the agar has been strained it is put into a glass measuringjar for pouring, I pre-pour using Pastywhyte's Tek and modified lids, PC @15 PSI for 20 min, as the PC was cooling I began to prepare my area for inoculation/transfer.  I turn all fans, heat, or AC off, ensure all windows are closed and keep the pets free and clear of the area.  I spray the area down with bleach/water mix, and then wipe my tools down with alcohol.  I take a shower and put clean clothes and a hat on.  When the PC is cool enough to touch, I remove agar from the PC and then place it within my SAB and all my equipment is staged in this area. 
:takingnotes: Along with wiping down the surfaces and tools and equipment I have started to wipe the jars and petri dishes as well. This initial escaped my mind, and why as a beginner it is very important for me to read the TEKs many times, remember the process, and before I start a transfer or inoculation I now rehearse it in my head and stage my jars accordingly. :takingnotes:


UPDATE!!!


(Note), the first parent culture was done in ½ pint mason jars in a pre-pour tek that worked very well.  I just started to use the petri dish tek so I could see the cultures more clearly.  What sparked this notion of mine is I saw a picture of what I was told is a true mono-culture (or close to it), and it was beautiful.  So I decided I wanted one and this is where we are. I know I am “sooo new”, but I have a dream and ambition, let’s see where this takes me. I know I will fail many times, but from my readings RR says to take many different samples of the same things (assuming it is a clean and god sample).  With this I will have some fail and some survive.  I plan to fruit the strains after the 5th transfer and definite strands begin appearing (I forget the proper terminology filaments?). 
I read threads and people failures and success all day long (in my free time), along with a book that I purchased, psilocybe cultivation handbook. 

So now that my TEK and background/reasoning is done I will start on the log for what I have now.

12/26
MS syringe purchased from a trusted vendor and I used a pre-pour method on these jars and it worked out very well, I just decided to better see the mycelium growth.
MAE recipe (500 ml)

Jar 1 First Generation


Jar 2 First Generation


Jar Three First Generation




01/10/17
MEA Recipe (500 ml)
As you can tell I am still new my transfers are BIG clumps of agar and little pieces of mycelium.
I will hone in these TEK's as I progress.






Jar 2



Jar 3


These are examples of my petri dishes and the clarity I mentioned.








01/14/2017  UPDATE!!!!
Jar 3. 2nd Gen
Due to inexperience I took a sample from the wrong portion.  (It was my thought) That where I took the sample I could see definite strands of mycelium groups, so I tried to get a piece of these strands.
However, I learned that the best culture would have been from the far right of the clump, “have to crack a few eggs..” right?





Jar 2, 2nd Gen
Jar two was thrown away due to contaminants, I think.  The growth was abnormal and it looked a little slimy in spots so I just threw it away. 





Jar 1, 2nd Gen
This specimen is still in incubation because I didn’t think that it was ready and wanted to see if more definition could be grown.

I am concerned for this one because it has all these spots, but in my defense when I took the transfer (lack of skill and awareness) the sample didn’t stick to the agar.
So the sample slid all around the jar as I tried and tried to tap and move it to the center when I finally gave up. 





Here is one of the petri dish samples taken from one of the 1st generation jars, it is a 2nd gen and has been transplanted again.
Again poor TEK I didn't choose the best specimen for my transfer.  Next time more mental preparation and attention will be taken into account.




:hi:
Thanks for all the comments and support guys, I have already learned a whole bunch and much more to come.  I know I need to practice on my bladesmanship hah. I am not very accurate and only time and practice will fix it.
:hi:

More updates in about a week.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24003460 - 01/12/17 09:10 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

I've never pressure cooker agar more than a half hour. It only takes 15-20 minutes.

Wrap the edges of your dishes not the whole dish.

Find my agar TEK through the links in my signature

Nice job :rockon:


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24003475 - 01/12/17 09:17 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Looking good so far! You did pour your agar pretty thick though, wont hurt but its also not necessary.  I try to go about a 1/4" thick.

Also, you dont need to pc the agar for 60 minutes, 20 min at 15 psi is good enough.  I do 30 at 10 psi so i can use my smaller pc. 

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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Kenetic]
    #24003542 - 01/12/17 09:43 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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I've never pressure cooker agar more than a half hour. It only takes 15-20 minutes.

Wrap the edges of your dishes not the whole dish.

Find my agar TEK through the links in my signature

Nice job :rockon:





Thank you.  I have started shifting throughyour teks.  Funny thing is I have read a couple of them before.  Im pretty sure it was your no pour tek that I imitated in my no pour, as well as straining it.
But you have reminded me of things, I will continue reading and learning.  You don't think any of these look like contams?


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Looking good so far! You did pour your agar pretty thick though, wont hurt but its also not necessary.  I try to go about a 1/4" thick.

Also, you dont need to pc the agar for 60 minutes, 20 min at 15 psi is good enough.  I do 30 at 10 psi so i can use my smaller pc. 

Keep up the good work!




Thank you. I am trying to get used to everything. I find it hard to see in my SAB, I will end up making another one when payday comes.  I will continue to post the progress or failure of my journey here.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11] * 1
    #24003786 - 01/12/17 11:16 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)



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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24004018 - 01/12/17 12:59 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23990888

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21922023





Thanks bod.  Someone said those look like pin mold and not myc.  Do you think this true also Bod? I still am learning what good and bad looks like.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24004047 - 01/12/17 01:09 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Nah, jar three looks best tho


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24004487 - 01/12/17 03:24 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

i :blah: in your journal.

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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: mushboy]
    #24005214 - 01/12/17 07:03 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

This is what i was going to put on grain tonight.... But it smelled really sweet.
So... I didnt.




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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24005235 - 01/12/17 07:08 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

That?  No way dude.  It's not nearly colonized enough.  Wait a few more days at least


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24005236 - 01/12/17 07:08 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Clean or not I would suggest you take some transfers from strong growth and get nice clean cultures and then go to to grain.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Kenetic]
    #24005251 - 01/12/17 07:14 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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That?  No way dude.  It's not nearly colonized enough.  Wait a few more days at least






Too soon?
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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11] * 1
    #24005279 - 01/12/17 07:21 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

way to soon. and you should only have one 'culture' of growth that you would use.

you need to cut a healthy piece away and grow that guy and maybe cut again to ensure its clean. then use it as you wish.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: mushboy]
    #24009742 - 01/14/17 12:45 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Updates of pics, and some of the reading material has been edited and recognition of errors addressed.  Thank you all for the support looking forward to fruiting one of these soonish.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24009806 - 01/14/17 01:22 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

I admire your research and research approach.

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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Fick_Duck] * 1
    #24009963 - 01/14/17 02:50 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Hey man just a tip, its a little easier for people to follow and help if you put the details of your updatein your last post and then update the OP if you want after


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24029474 - 01/22/17 12:32 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Ok so i had a few set backs...
Due to poor labeling I lost track of what samples came from what cultures.  So i decided to stick with the only one I knew for sure.

Meet subject Charlie.
Or as I like to call him 03-03-AA+
3rd transfer, 3rd jar,



Since I didnt update correctly last time I figured I would throw some things in now.



I ready my area and clean my tools.  I lay some paper towels in a Tupperware container and douse it with alcohol.  I use these to sterilize any and all equipment before it enters the SAB.



Unfortunately my assistant didnt get pictures of me wiping any other container except this one.



Once everything is inside and sterilized I wipe my hand down again and go inside (thats what she said).
I flame my blade after wiping down the hilt, and my hands.



Keeping my hands away from the area above the sample I am attempting to extract.  I carefully select my sector of choice.



After each transfer I wipe the blade and flame.



After all seven transfers were done I labeled, 4th transfer jars 1-7, and placed in incubation.

A shot after all was done.




Looking forward to the next set of advice, thanks for all the help and support guys.  See you again in a week or so. :bye:


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24029707 - 01/22/17 05:36 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Nice update! Plates look nice and clean too.  Just remember to be careful with all that alcohol, which btw sanitizes, not sterilizes.  Youre almost ready for expansion now, I'll be keeping track

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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Kenetic]
    #24029885 - 01/22/17 08:40 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Kenetic]
    #24030011 - 01/22/17 09:32 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Nice update! Plates look nice and clean too.  Just remember to be careful with all that alcohol, which btw sanitizes, not sterilizes.  Youre almost ready for expansion now, I'll be keeping track

Wish I had an assistant!





I planned on keeping one for further isolation and the rest would go to grain for fruiting.
Its nice having an extra set of hands when i need them.. Most the time she just watches from afar lol.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24045586 - 01/28/17 01:25 AM (7 years, 2 days ago)

Well I ran into a really bad contam problem. Lets see if I can save this one.
The other ones I tossed because they were worse off than this one.

Took six samples of this one.
As always prepared my work space and stage my gear.




Use 70% iso alcohol


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24045588 - 01/28/17 01:28 AM (7 years, 2 days ago)

After some comments made in LAGM2017


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Wheres the contamination coming from? If it's coming from your transfered you just have more cleaning to do.
If they're at the edges of your plates than you need to tighten up sterile tech




With this advice I have started paying close attention to getting under the lip.
What I don't have pictures capturing is me wiping the jars and lips again before starting the transfer process in the SAB.



So everything's sanitized, and staged inside the SAB. I being to initiate transfer, but first a pic of the contamed culture.

03 AA+ 03 02< 03 AA+ 03 01-06


The new dishes are staged and wiped again, the knife flamed to red hot.



Same tek as before, keeping hands clear of the air above the sample being taken.



After six transfers, wiping each jar before getting ready to tranfers, then flame sterilizing the blade and completing transfer.



I know there is a lot of repeated information but it's important to remeber all the steps, there are a lot!!
So sterilization, and accurate blade work.

I know that along the bottom there were no contams and I didnt transfer.
Its because I have read to keep away from the edges and the mycelium i transfered has started to become stringy and I'm not sure if sectoring, or these are the "strains" that come before sectoring.

From these transfers by my count this makes number 4.  I plan to grow a few healthy plates and spawn on to grain then to multiple jars via G2G, and then fruit.

Sorry if this is taking so long and you all are losing interest. But its been a great way for me to track my progress in learning for Agar cultivation.
This is very tedious and also rewarding.  Some of the cultures I've had have been beautiful already.  Like this KSSS I have going.
2nd transfer, I made 10 transfers of it tonight.




Thanks for all the help and support guys.
As I stated in the beginning the purpose of this is a learning experience, and for me to keep track of my own persoal growth.
Also some newbies like myself could learn a great deal just by my mistakes and your pointing them out.
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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24045702 - 01/28/17 04:54 AM (7 years, 2 days ago)

Good work! Dont know what to say about yoy being a leftie though lol


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Kenetic]
    #24045823 - 01/28/17 07:58 AM (7 years, 2 days ago)

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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24045860 - 01/28/17 08:23 AM (7 years, 2 days ago)

Hey Corona, you might try some work without the gloves, tape and sleeves and see how it comes out.  That is way overkill IMO not to mention a pain in the ass to put on every time you work with agar.  I never wear gloves and rarely get contams.  Give it a try...might save you some hassle.  Nice work, nonetheless!


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24047177 - 01/28/17 06:28 PM (7 years, 2 days ago)

Thanks for the support and advice guys,

@Mycolorado: I did a G2A transfer today with just my hands. Well see..  Got a fresh new pair of tweezers and put them with my gear. If theres no contams il be sold.
Its out of the realms of the log but thought id try it. Didnt change anything in my tek except i didnt put a fresh shirt on and gloves.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24048090 - 01/29/17 06:16 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

Sometimes I wear gloves sometimes I dont.  I prefer gloves but the rest of the stuff you had going on is a little outdated.  Ive never had "dead skin cells from my arms" cause any problems, i wipe them with iso anway.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Kenetic]
    #24048317 - 01/29/17 08:43 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

Nice advice kenetic.  Im going to try this, I didnt think it was outdated info, seemed like common sense lol. 
Thats what I did yesterday wiped myself with iso and began working.  I have some petris in the mail, next weekend ill be using those for transfers.
I dont really like this prepour mini round method as well as I did in begining.
I just would prefer to have petris where i can see in clearly and not have to look through the bottom or the sides.  Colored lids make it a little harder to see through. :smile:


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    #24048365 - 01/29/17 09:08 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

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Nice advice kenetic.  Im going to try this, I didnt think it was outdated info, seemed like common sense lol. 
Thats what I did yesterday wiped myself with iso and began working.  I have some petris in the mail, next weekend ill be using those for transfers.
I dont really like this prepour mini round method as well as I did in begining.
I just would prefer to have petris where i can see in clearly and not have to look through the bottom or the sides.  Colored lids make it a little harder to see through. :smile:




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    #24049648 - 01/29/17 05:21 PM (7 years, 1 day ago)

Ok guys need some advice.
You know I do my reading and everything.
Or at least try to read as much as I can so ill try not to ask a stupid newbie question here. But..

With the transfers I just did, assuming they turn out fine. I would like to spawn to grain or pf jars and fruit to see how the mycelium will fruit.

Heres my toss up.. Do I get millet, or use rye, to do wedge transfers, or do I do a LQ and use that to knock up like a million PF jars?

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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24049826 - 01/29/17 06:32 PM (7 years, 1 day ago)

grains all the way.

do not spawn on a large scale with cakes. it works.. so does jerkin it.. but id prefer the real thing.

also grains give you more points of inoc since the are individual pieces.

who wants to make a million pf jars. just do quarts of millet 24 hr soak. no simmering.
pc 2hrs. rock out with your rock out.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: mushboy]
    #24050102 - 01/29/17 08:03 PM (7 years, 1 day ago)

Ok cool thanks mushboy.
I don't wana jynx myself.  Got another week or so before they will even be ready.
But like always gathering information incase everything goes right.
Cant wait to get the petri dishes and what not.
I ordered 1 section and 3 section petris. A flask and breathable corks parafilm and Pda powder mix.
So when I do my next transfer Ill also be updating my tek.
Im really hoping to fruit one of these really soon, feel like its taking forever to get a good culture.
I guess this is where the patience comes into play huh.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24050555 - 01/29/17 11:39 PM (7 years, 1 day ago)

dont try to get a good culture going on agar.. it will take forever.
if you do that just keep dumping 'undesirable' plates in quart jars
and fruit them 1quart at a time. hunt for clones while you wait for
a desirable culture to grow.

also dont judge a culture solely on how it looks on agar.
ive had sllooooow ass puffy cultures rip through a quart jar in no
time and put out decent fruits. you will never know until you fruit it
anyway. wouldnt it suck to finally have a purddy agar culture only to
find out its non fruiting/bunk..(rare but it happens)

i also just ordered petris. im graduating past plates. but man o man do i respect the plate:stoned:


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: mushboy]
    #24050602 - 01/30/17 12:10 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

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mushboy said:
dont try to get a good culture going on agar.. it will take forever.
if you do that just keep dumping 'undesirable' plates in quart jars
and fruit them 1quart at a time. hunt for clones while you wait for
a desirable culture to grow.

also dont judge a culture solely on how it looks on agar.
ive had sllooooow ass puffy cultures rip through a quart jar in no
time and put out decent fruits. you will never know until you fruit it
anyway. wouldnt it suck to finally have a purddy agar culture only to
find out its non fruiting/bunk..(rare but it happens)

i also just ordered petris. im graduating past plates. but man o man do i respect the plate:stoned:




Man I was literally just getting ready to make a thread asking about this. I was curious how everyone got their "perfect" strain isolation. Is it really best to transfer out multiple isolates and then fruit them all individually to see how they do? Or would it be more practical just to get a clean culture, which isn't an isolate, fruit it, and then clone your fruit of choice?


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: noland]
    #24050608 - 01/30/17 12:14 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

at first... just go for a clean culture and grow out fruits and find clones.
its way faster then doing a billion transfers and gives you a reasonable amount
of consistency while you do your thing on agar.

i started agar back in Aug. im STILL transfers from that first plate a grew to see what
happens. months later it still looks like the same freakin culture. im probably missing a step but my point is still relevant.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: mushboy]
    #24050633 - 01/30/17 12:29 AM (7 years, 23 hours ago)

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I just put a couple different MS prints to agar and thought it'd be cool to transfer them out until I got a couple monocultures to work with. But then it had me thinking that this was gonna take a while, and I was just curious if that's what everyone did. Finding a good clone does seem a lot faster.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: noland]
    #24050827 - 01/30/17 06:30 AM (7 years, 17 hours ago)

Hey noland we basically registered on the sme day lol.

Thanks mush.  So ill go ahead and try to fruit these when they are ready and then take a clone and start another iso.

Wow so this will be a long long long thread..
But i guess once i have an awesome sample I can send it out to all you who have been following along.
Well like I said this is just a learning exp.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24051626 - 01/30/17 12:34 PM (7 years, 11 hours ago)

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Hey noland we basically registered on the sme day lol.




Haha didn't even see that. We're pretty much doing the same thing too as I just put a MS syringe of AA+ to agar as well. I haven't transferred yet, so your plates look a lot cleaner than mine. Can't decide where I should transfer from...

Good luck to you though! I'll be following along. :thumbup:


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: noland]
    #24051740 - 01/30/17 01:17 PM (7 years, 11 hours ago)

Lol thanks but mine are not clean, last transfer had a crap ton of pin mold i think.
Ill be on the lookout. I have a lot of info bookmarked so if you need a tek or something just message me. Id love to help out if I can.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24063875 - 02/03/17 10:26 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Well yet again I got contams in like everything. Heres a few pics of a couple jars.






Not sure what it was but it was a brownish yellowish liquid ontop. Maybe yeast?

So I selected one that was best looking.



This one also had some sort of contam.
The surface of the agar looked dry and flaky almost. I know you Cant tell in the picture, im sorry.

But I switched to bods petri tek.
I like it better I think. Even though its more time consuming.
Well see what the results are next week.


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the source of the contam was determined to be a newbie mistake....
I have a trash can I threw a couple bad dishes into and never tookit out.
I have since run 2 humidifiers in my incubation tank with bleach, then flushed them out, and cleaned my work are very well.


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24064012 - 02/03/17 11:43 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Man that stinks :sad:
Is that your last culture there?

If so Your only left with two options really..
1. start back with spores..
Or
2.Your going to needa pour more agar on top that dish,sandwiching the bacteria and mycelium in-between,
Wrap it back up and 'scratch' not cut the first bits of myc you see poking up thru.

Edit
:awenuhuh:
Does that plate only have a bit of agar in it?
Looked at first as if the myc was swimming in a pool of bacteria. :lol:


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    #24064900 - 02/04/17 11:16 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Last pic looks great.  Id transfer immediately if youre serious about saving it.


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    #24064928 - 02/04/17 11:29 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Ive transfered from much worse


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    #24065106 - 02/04/17 01:12 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I already transfered.  Took over 20 samples of it


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Re: First Agar project. AA+ [Re: Corona11]
    #24066885 - 02/05/17 08:54 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Okay so first off, I'd like to thank everyone for the advice and support, also I would like to apologize for the shitty update the other day.  Have a lot going on.
So apparently I cant count.  5 dishes with 3 sectionsis fifteen samples, not over 20.  However i did do transfers of ksss and blue meanie that night,it was a long night lol.













Heres my dishes if contams pop up after this idk what im going to do.  Reevaluate my life prolly.
My blademanship is getting better (been using daggers on skyrim as of late to increase this skill) and the transfers are getting more precise and in the middle of the dish. :smile:

In regards to comparing this TEK to pastys prepour, pastys is easier, this is more time consuming, but I feel safer about my dishes. If that makes sense. We will see the results from this and compare them.

Have a wonderful sunday guys!!!!
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