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twidget
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First trip & more than I bargained for
#24002460 - 01/11/17 09:21 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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I've been lurking on the forums for a while now and decided to start my first grow at the beginning of December using PF tek and an SGFC. I used used a B+ syringe from a sponsor to get started. I had some issues with pinning and fruiting, ambient humidity too try and temperature too low but eventually got some fruit and decided to give them a try this afternoon.
I have used cannabis pretty extensively in the past but have little to no experience with anything else.
I use roughly 15g fresh to make a tea. 12oz water steeped 10 minutes, another 8 oz for 10 minutes while I drank the first round. I downed it all in about 30 minutes.
T+20 I started to notice some mild effects which continue to grow for the next hour.
T+40 Although I don't have much experience to go off of I would say it was a solid level 3 by this point. The popcorn ceiling seemed to be melting, paintings and pictures throughout my house were shifting and moving within the confines of their frames, and the what really got me was when my dogs face began to distort as if it was viewed in a fun-house mirror. Mind you he's a pug so his face is already a little fucked but this was even more so. I can't really described the CEV but they were intense enough that I made ever effort I could to keep my eyes open.
T+60 I tried to wait it out but I hit the abort button and downed 1mg xanax.
T+80 Things toned down to a bearable level. After that I enjoyed a nice hour or so of listening to some music and much more subdued OEV.
T+120 90% returned to normal
I will certain admit that part of this experience was my fault. As things became more intense I was afraid to just go with it and resisted going with the flow for fear of where it may take me. I am hoping to get some input on why what many call a lower dose hit me so hard. This hasn't scared me off but I'd like to shoot with a more mild trip next time.
Below is what I used for my tea. My SGFC is located in my basement which is generally in the 65-70 degree range. Could this lower temperature result in the stubby fruit and possible higher potency by weight? I also noticed as I sliced the stems up they immediately turned a deep blue. I apologize if I missed it but I could not find a definitive answer as to whether this can be a gauge for higher potency when compared to a lighter bluing.

So really to sum it up, am I just sensitive to mushrooms, were my mushrooms potential on the strong side, or did the tea just create a quick come up and peak? I suspect the answer is a combination of all three but a more experienced opinion would be appreciated.
Edited by twidget (01/11/17 09:23 PM)
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Re: First trip & more than I bargained for [Re: twidget]
#24002478 - 01/11/17 09:31 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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i too just grew my own and realized they are nothing like the shit you buy on the street
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Tmethyl
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Re: First trip & more than I bargained for [Re: twidget]
#24002549 - 01/11/17 10:03 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Abort!
I wish I could have aborted several times, I just never prepared things so well and endured it to the end. There often comes a point in a high dose trip when you've suffered through such mind-burning & soul-consuming visuals that your mind just gives up and dies and you experience just bliss for hours. I wish everyone could feel that now and then.
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twidget said: So really to sum it up, am I just sensitive to mushrooms, were my mushrooms potential on the strong side, or did the tea just create a quick come up and peak? I suspect the answer is a combination of all three but a more experienced opinion would be appreciated.
Some people are more sensitive than others I can confirm that. Tea is technically a form of extraction, so it will create a faster onset and peak naturally and fade away much faster than having ate them.
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Re: First trip & more than I bargained for [Re: Tmethyl]
#24002563 - 01/11/17 10:09 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Best thing you can always do is go with it but it never hurts to have some anxiolytics around.
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Re: First trip & more than I bargained for [Re: Tmethyl]
#24002579 - 01/11/17 10:16 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Yeah I know I almost feel bad for having bailed on the trip. I was prepared for what I expected to be a nice mild introduction to mushrooms but instead got taken for a ride. Having done some research on the topic I had every intention to just go with the flow and let it all unfold how it may but I quickly found out that is easier to say in your head than actually follow through with.
Tmethyl, Would you recommend just chopping on 'em next time to slow down the whole process a bit?
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Re: First trip & more than I bargained for [Re: twidget] 1
#24002592 - 01/11/17 10:24 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Yeah or just eat them whole, they will last a long time but it will be a more gentle onset. If you can settle in with the experience it can be beyond incredible, but you must make peace with what is happening and let go. This will be easier to achieve if the onset isn't so sudden or intense.
One who can handle this trip is truly strong, it is a true form of exploration through consciousness, dimensions and mind. The term 'psychonaut' is not so far off. The mushrooms are to a psychonaut what a microscope is to a micro-biologist, or a telescope is to an astronomer. We must respect our tools.
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Re: First trip & more than I bargained for [Re: Tmethyl]
#24003702 - 01/12/17 10:48 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Thanks for the advice Tmethyl. Even though it was a rough introduction I'm excited to give it another try. I will definitely just eat them next time and possibly eat something else closer to dosing. As I ran over the events I realized I had not eaten much of anything for roughly 16 hours.
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Re: First trip & more than I bargained for [Re: twidget]
#24003949 - 01/12/17 12:34 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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It's recommended to not eat anything at least 4 hours before dosing, a lot of people who eat before dosing report "the mushrooms were not potent! It was a bunk batch!" but it was not that, it was the food.
I doubt a few nibbles of food would hurt, but I wouldn't even other dosing with any more than that in your stomach.
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Re: First trip & more than I bargained for [Re: twidget]
#24012832 - 01/15/17 06:43 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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So I decided to give things a second try. I decided to just 1.2g dry on saturday, 3 days after my first trip. I felt I had enough time to reflect on what could have been done different from the first trip and thought the residual tolerance may help the trip for getting too intense.
Overall it went OK. I had a mild amount of anxiety for the first 20 minutes or so but worked past it and was fine until roughly an hour in when I started noticing any effects. Around the hour mark I started to get some subtle 2d OEV but the anxiety came back as well. OEV increased and any object with a pattern was flowing and moving but no CEV and from what I could tell my mental faculties were no different than if sober. The OEV continue for a few hours as well as ever present anxiety kept the experience generally unpleasant. Breathing meditation helped cope with the anxiety but no changes that I made to setting seemed to make a difference for very long.
I'm hoping someone with some experience may be able to give some advice on how I might want to proceed in the future.
It certainly seems I have a very low tolerance for mushrooms (score! I think). The couple things I wonder about are why OEV but no CEV, no impact to mental function, and persistent anxiety.
I'm curious if all three could be explained by the low dose and/or individual differences. I am most concerned about the anxiety. I understand that anxiety may come up at any point during a trip but it also seems that some people report more anxiety at lower doses. Or maybe I just haven't been able to fully accept the experience yet?
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Re: First trip & more than I bargained for [Re: twidget]
#24026251 - 01/20/17 05:01 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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I've had pretty much the exact same experience as you. First batch (Amazonians) floored me and friends, so much so we all got scared of them. Did a 2nd batch,(Cambodian) and they were way easier to handle. Still tripped hard off 2g though. This was over a year ago, and the anxiety for me is still horrible, every time, regardless of "strain" or how little/much I take. I just had to accept that it's a part of how they work with my body, and try not to dwell. Doesn't lessen my anxiety, but it's easier to handle if that makes sense.
Edited by SeedyPea (01/20/17 05:02 PM)
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Re: First trip & more than I bargained for [Re: SeedyPea]
#24031658 - 01/22/17 07:35 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Thanks for the response Seedy. The trips were kind of close together but I went back to try tea a second time. I used 1.5g dry (so should be similar to my first trip) but I only brewed the tea once. That seemed to work alot better. The fast come up from the tea made it easier to keep any anxiety in check and the dose was much more manageable. Overall the trip was very mild but it was at least enough to get some confidence back.
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