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#24002441 - 01/11/17 09:14 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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The 2017 National Defense Authorization Act (Section 1287) just created a "GLOBAL ENGAGEMENT CENTER" under the US Secretary of State.
"The purpose of the Center shall be to lead, synchronize, and coordinate efforts of the Federal Government to recognize, understand, expose, and counter foreign state and non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed at undermining United States national security interests."
I'm not sure whether countering foreign state and non state information gives them the ability to censor foreign news, but if so this would be an incredible blow to freedom of the press.
Also, "The Center is authorized to provide grants or contracts of financial support to media content providers"
So now we won't even know if we're getting our news from journalists, or a Government propaganda agency.
To me, this is a serious blow to journalistic integrity, as this is nothing more than a Ministry of Propaganda. Does anyone think this is a good idea?
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I posted this before, but here is Hillary arguing the US needs to step up its propaganda war:
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
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It figures.
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The Ministry of Truth -- Minitrue, in Newspeak -- was startlingly different from any other object in sight. It was an enormous pyramidal structure of glittering white concrete, soaring up, terrace after terrace, 300 metres into the air. From where Winston stood it was just possible to read, picked out on its white face in elegant lettering, the three slogans of the Party:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: ballsalsa]
#24002732 - 01/11/17 11:28 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four.
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10]
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There used to be a day when the majority trusted the Government. Ya know before they dosed people with LSD and God knows what else. Like spying on everyone that could expose their mentality and operations.
I already thought PSYOPS was embedded in news agencies. Propaganda was a big thing in world war II. Then everyone ate their LSD and realized their full of shit!
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"[Counter efforts made at undermining] US national security interests"
Theres that phrase again. We won't be artacking those who undermine the TRUTH, or DEMOCRACY, we'll be attacking those who undermine our interests. And Lord knows it would take a FOIA request signed by George Washington to find out what those are.
Luckily, the GOP is all about govt accountability so this should be axed immediately...
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Propaganda has never been easier or more difficult. There is a huge population that adheres to this or that and can be misguided. That's sorta what makes democracy beautiful and intelligent until a foreign power makes it corrupt. Even a domestic source of power could derail good ideas.
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Morel Guy]
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You mean like the domestic liberal-leaning establishment media that are derailing trump's impeccable job creation deals?
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10]
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Seriously dude. Wipe the trump poop off your nose!
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10]
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You mean like the domestic liberal-leaning establishment media that are derailing trump's impeccable job creation deals?
Dude. The topic of the thread is literally a teed up shot at establishment democrats, no need to resort to irrelevant fantasy this time around.
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: The Ecstatic]
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I like the liberal media although some evolving would always be welcome.
We have a local paper owned by the republican party. It's a different community vibe than national news. They seem dumber and in awe why there is so much crime. I guess religion and political views weren't strong social glue.
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Morel Guy said: Propaganda has never been easier or more difficult. There is a huge population that adheres to this or that and can be misguided. That's sorta what makes democracy beautiful and intelligent until a foreign power makes it corrupt. Even a domestic source of power could derail good ideas.
You mean like the domestic liberal-leaning establishment media that are derailing trump's impeccable job creation deals?
Dude. The topic of the thread is literally a teed up shot at establishment democrats, no need to resort to irrelevant fantasy this time around.
No offense but morel guy is still thoroughly brainwashed by the liberal-leaning establishment media and some of you guys still haven't disavowed it as vocally as you should. There's nothing fictional about what I said. Call it fantasy all you want, you can't refute it with a logical argument because you know it's true.
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Morel Guy]
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How is observing reality now equivalent to kissing trump's ass?
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said: You mean like the domestic liberal-leaning establishment media that are derailing trump's impeccable job creation deals?
morel guy is still thoroughly brainwashed by the liberal-leaning establishment media
I hope one day you learn the difference between "establishment" and "liberal". They are literally opposites.
If you struck the words "liberal-leaning", I might agree with you.
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morel guy is still thoroughly brainwashed by the liberal-leaning establishment media
I hope one day you learn the difference between "establishment" and "liberal". They are literally opposites.
If you struck the words "liberal-leaning", I might agree with you.
You can't deny that most reporters are just liberal elite SJW's who are reporting dishonestly solely because they're butthurt about the election. It's just obvious to about anyone and everyone around me, even the Hillary voters I hang out with.
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Maybe young people who circulate information easily through social media and who are more plugged in than older people are just more woke
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I hope one day you learn the difference between "establishment" and "liberal". They are literally opposites.
You can't deny that most reporters are just liberal elite SJW's who are reporting dishonestly solely because they're butthurt about the election.
Yes, I can. The establishment media supported both conservative establishment candidates and liberal establishment candidates. When Trump won on the conservative side, the only establishment candidate left was Hillary, so they gravitated towards her.
If they were truly liberal, they'd have given Bernie a LOT more support.
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10]
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That's a trick to get me banned like the last time you ratted me out.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I hope one day you learn the difference between "establishment" and "liberal". They are literally opposites.
You can't deny that most reporters are just liberal elite SJW's who are reporting dishonestly solely because they're butthurt about the election.
Yes, I can. The establishment media supported both conservative establishment candidates and liberal establishment candidates. When Trump won on the conservative side, the only establishment candidate left was Hillary, so they gravitated towards her.
If they were truly liberal, they'd have given Bernie a LOT more support.
Well, that really doesn't hold up. And you avoided the point I made. I made the point that the media is clearly liberal-leaning, because the reporters, in their personal views, are butthurt SJW's who can't accept the facts of the election and are living in a collective bubble of smug denial. See Koods types of people. Yes they are indeed liberal in their views, but they overwhelmingly supported the establishment candidate that the DNC essentially tried to force them to vote for. You "real" liberals on this board who refused to vote for Hillary and wrote in Bernie or something are an extremely small minority. I mean, some liberal Hillary supporting liberals fucking cried on television, have had complete and utter meltdowns on social media, and most have made fools of themselves in their coverage.
As for the coverage, your assertion that they supported establishment republicans is utterly false. Sure, they propped some establishment candidates up like Marco, Kasich and Jeb to a very small degree, only enough to push them over less conventional republicans like Rand, but not enough to push them over the truly outsider candidates like Trump and to some degree Cruz who they saw as ineligible in a general election. The real facts of the story, the emails, clearly show that most media colluded to prop Trump UP in the primaries, so Hillary would have an easy win in the general. (Didn't work country too woke)
The liberal-leaning establishment media is exactly what it sounds like whether you decide to accept it or not.
**EDITING to say that above all, the reporters are elitist. They're going to report in support of the establishment candidate who will maintain their prestige and the status quo. However, they're also liberal. Not truly liberal. The type of liberal who only conforms to liberal doctrine to acheive some sort of perceived inherent moral superiority but doesn't actually care about the real issues liberalism tries to deal with. Which is a majority of my generations liberals. It's a facade. They're truly scum. And that's why they're reporting so negatively, because a trump victory is a clear "FUCK YOU" to that kind of culture that the media tries to enforce upon us.
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You can't deny that most reporters are just liberal elite SJW's who are reporting dishonestly solely because they're butthurt about the election.
Yes, I can. The establishment media supported both conservative establishment candidates and liberal establishment candidates. When Trump won on the conservative side, the only establishment candidate left was Hillary, so they gravitated towards her.
If they were truly liberal, they'd have given Bernie a LOT more support.
Well, that really doesn't hold up. And you avoided the point I made. I made the point that the media is clearly liberal-leaning, because the reporters, in their personal views, are butthurt SJW's who can't accept the facts of the election and are living in a collective bubble of smug denial... they overwhelmingly supported the establishment candidate that the DNC essentially tried to force them to vote for.
I already told you, if they were true SJS's, they would have supported Bernie, but they didn't so they are not.
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How does that prove the media is liberal?
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There aren't any liberals here that would agree with you. Sure, you might know some liberals who think the media is liberal because they supported Hillary, but it's not because the media is liberal, it's because Hillary is establishment.
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Ever hear of Obama in 2008?
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10]
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Ever hear of Obama in 2008?
that was back when dinosaurs roamed as far as webster is concerned
Exactly. Besides, what does people crying about their candidate losing have to do with whether or not the media is liberal, conservative, or establishment?
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Ever hear of Obama in 2008?
that was back when dinosaurs roamed as far as webster is concerned
Exactly. Besides, what does people crying about their candidate losing have to do with whether or not the media is liberal, conservative, or establishment?
Well I meant the reporters. I'm sorry but no serious conservative reporter would cry on air or melt down in the way that the liberal members of the establishment press have. There's an element to liberalism that goes hand and hand with being a pussy, to be frank. Did any of you see CNN on NYE with Don Lemon? I'm sorry but no conversative reporter is that unprofessional and quite frankly that much of a little bitch. Unprofessionalism, letting personal feelings dictate debate, personal butthurt about the election controlling your coverage are all characteristics of liberals.
Fal, YOU might describe the liberal-leaning establishment reporters as not true liberals, but I'm 100% that a vast majority of them would self-identify as liberals. Your idea of what a "true liberal" is applies to a very very small percent of self-proclaimed liberals. A vast majority of them don't give a shit about liberal principles and wanted the candidate in office who would maintain their prestige and reinforce their perceived inherent moral superiority for being a liberal and not a conservative. Admit it. Ask Koods if he's a liberal. Now ask him why he voted for Hillary. I guarantee you he's going to say "yes" and "because she's not trump." Now go ask the other tens of millions of self proclaimed liberals who voted for her why they did and you're going to get the same answer almost every time.
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Those times really are a thing of the past. I don't know if you guys have realized this yet, but a vote for trump wasn't just a vote against clintons politics. It was a vote against the entire blue culture behind her. And trump wasn't pitching old Christianity based conservatism from the 60's. Trump offered a completely new red culture, not associated with the old Christian Right. And he didn't win by agreeing to play by the rules traditional politics had laid out for him. His voters knew he was going to fundamentally change the way the government works and wasn't going to be tame about it. That's what America wanted, and that's why blue liberal elitists are so scared
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Ever hear of Obama in 2008?
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when i was 11 the mainstream media was a "vast right-wing conspiracy".
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God, i think Bush Sr was President when i was 11.
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care to address the fact the in years of Democrat leadership the media is "right-wing" while in years of Republican leadership the media is "liberal, left-leaning"?
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I've been avidly reading the news since 2013 and the major liberal-leaning establishment media was liberal then, during a democrat presidency. They just got violently partisan around the election and people noticed.
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that is an extremely narrow and limited window of time. get a broader perspective of history, and it will be easier to see the broader trends.
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Its not an attack. Its an explanation as to why you dont remember the immediate right wing backlash after Obama's election:
Because they werent showing tea party rallies and burning effigies on the disney channel.
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24006839 - 01/13/17 11:01 AM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Looks like some trolls on here just got new salaries and contracts! Let's hear it for the shills.... err I mean retired hobbyist with 50,000 posts and spend 8 hours a day responding to choice topics....
-------------------- Enlils true purpose is to get us off topic and to cast enough logical doubts so that outsiders viewing this would be more likely to side with his fake opinions rather than our or sometimes controlled opppsotions opinions. You see if you are too skilled at not falling for their traps and stating logically sound debunks then other accounts who purposefully agree with 90% of the truth join in and get the entire topic off the main points. It's their 1960s version of damage control and diversion but man it's painfully obvious in 2017
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The Ecstatic
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10] 2
#24006843 - 01/13/17 11:02 AM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Webster10 said: I've been avidly reading the news since 2013 and the major liberal-leaning establishment media was liberal then, during a democrat presidency. They just got violently partisan around the election and people noticed.
Well, you were still a little tyke when that liberal leaning media establishment was cheerleading the Bush administration, and leading the US into two failure wars we are still currently embroiled in.
When are people gonna get that the media isnt LIBERAL? Its corporatist. Sure, they side with Dems because thats where the demo sweet spot is for those ad dollars. Fox does the same, but they target older consumers. Yeah, CNN and the major networks dont bash gays or muslims, that doesnt mean theyre liberal.
CNN intentionally sabotaged Bernie (an actual liberal) in order to get their corporatist candidate the nomination. What is liberal about this? They are a CORPORATION.
Does CNN want stricter regulations on itself? Does CNN want to raise its own taxes? Does CNN want to criticize the banks, big oil, or pharma and lose ad dollars? Does CNN vigorously oppose wars and lose out on guest speakers from the pentagon, dod, white house, etc?
No, no, no, and no.
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10]
#24006902 - 01/13/17 11:32 AM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Webster10 said: Well I meant the reporters. I'm sorry but no serious conservative reporter would cry on air or melt down in the way that the liberal members of the establishment press have. There's an element to liberalism that goes hand and hand with being a pussy, to be frank. Did any of you see CNN on NYE with Don Lemon? I'm sorry but no conversative reporter is that unprofessional and quite frankly that much of a little bitch. Unprofessionalism, letting personal feelings dictate debate, personal butthurt about the election controlling your coverage are all characteristics of liberals.
Now you're just showing off your ignorance. I've watched Glenn Beck cry so many times I'm embarrassed for him.
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Webster10 said: Fal, YOU might describe the liberal-leaning establishment reporters as not true liberals, but I'm 100% that a vast majority of them would self-identify as liberals. Your idea of what a "true liberal" is applies to a very very small percent of self-proclaimed liberals. A vast majority of them don't give a shit about liberal principles and wanted the candidate in office who would maintain their prestige and reinforce their perceived inherent moral superiority for being a liberal and not a conservative.
You're right - a lot of liberals would take Hillary over Trump just because she's a Democrat. But that doesn't make CNN liberal.
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Webster10 said: Admit it. Ask Koods if he's a liberal. Now ask him why he voted for Hillary. I guarantee you he's going to say "yes" and "because she's not trump."
Who's Koods?
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24006906 - 01/13/17 11:33 AM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: CNN intentionally sabotaged Bernie (an actual liberal) in order to get their corporatist candidate the nomination. What is liberal about this? They are a CORPORATION.
Does CNN want stricter regulations on itself? Does CNN want to raise its own taxes? Does CNN want to criticize the banks, big oil, or pharma and lose ad dollars? Does CNN vigorously oppose wars and lose out on guest speakers from the pentagon, dod, white house, etc?
No, no, no, and no.
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#24007045 - 01/13/17 12:27 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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The Orwellian media wants to eliminate any dissenters of their narrative programming. I posted about this a month ago but it ended up becoming a speed bump. I think the Smith Mundt Restoration Act a few years back was a hint of more to come.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23917837#23917837
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Astral Pain said: Sup dude. Been a while.
Had to put this somewhere. Legalized propaganda just like he Smith Mundt 'Restoration' Act. The truth is enemy number one. Senate Passes Major Portman-Murphy Counter-Propaganda Bill as Part of NDAA
http://www.portman.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=3765A225-B773-4F57-B21A-A265F4B5692C
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NOTE: The bipartisan Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act is organized around two main priorities to help achieve the goal of combatting the constantly evolving threat of foreign disinformation. They are as follows:
The first priority is developing a whole-of-government strategy for countering foreign propaganda and disinformation. The bill would increase the authority, resources, and mandate of the Global Engagement Center to include state actors like Russia and China in addition to violent extremists. The Center will be led by the State Department, but with the active senior level participation of the Department of Defense, USAID, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, the Intelligence Community, and other relevant agencies. The Center will develop, integrate, and synchronize whole-of-government initiatives to expose and counter foreign disinformation operations and proactively advance fact-based narratives that support U.S. allies and interests. 
Second, the legislation seeks to leverage expertise from outside government to create more adaptive and responsive U.S. strategy options. The legislation establishes a fund to help train local journalists and provide grants and contracts to NGOs, civil society organizations, think tanks, private sector companies, media organizations, and other experts outside the U.S. government with experience in identifying and analyzing the latest trends in foreign government disinformation techniques This fund will complement and support the Center’s role by integrating capabilities and expertise available outside the U.S. government into the strategy-making process. It will also empower a decentralized network of private sector experts and integrate their expertise into the strategy-making process.
The Smith Mundt 'Restoration' Act thrown into the NDAA a few years back.
US ends ban on 'domestic propaganda'
https://www.rt.com/usa/smith-mundt-domestic-propaganda-121/
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It’s being branded by proponents as an attempt at transparency, but critics of a new law say the United States government just got the green-light to use propaganda made for foreign audiences on the American public. Until earlier this month, a longstanding federal law made it illegal for the US Department of State to share domestically the internally-authored news stories sent to American-operated outlets broadcasting around the globe. All of that changed effective July 2, when the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) was given permission to let US households tune-in to hear the type of programming that has previously only been allowed in outside nations.
The BBG is the independent government agency that broadcasts Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, and other networks created “to inform, engage and connect people around the world in support of freedom and democracy" - and a new law now allows the agency to provide members of the American public with program materials originally meant to be disseminated abroad.
The Smith-Mundt Act has ensured for decades that government-made media intended for foreign audiences doesn’t end up on radio networks broadcast within the US. An amendment tagged onto the National Defense Authorization Act removed that prohibition this year, however, and as of earlier this month those news stories meant for nations abroad can now be heard easily by American ears.
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Astral Pain]
#24007195 - 01/13/17 01:42 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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McCain leaked the fake memo
Introduces bill allowing him to disseminate fake news
Libs accuse GOP of collusion
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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: hostileuniverse]
#24016781 - 01/17/17 08:45 AM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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What's been funny is the media blackout of legitimate news yet they heralded snowdento a media star and are making Hollywood blockbusters glamorizing the lure.
We know if these storylines were legitimately true they would be blacked out from coverage like legitimate events like the Dakota pipeline.
The media likes to portray government as an all encompassing big brother to scare people from discussing truths matters online and in real life
-------------------- Enlils true purpose is to get us off topic and to cast enough logical doubts so that outsiders viewing this would be more likely to side with his fake opinions rather than our or sometimes controlled opppsotions opinions. You see if you are too skilled at not falling for their traps and stating logically sound debunks then other accounts who purposefully agree with 90% of the truth join in and get the entire topic off the main points. It's their 1960s version of damage control and diversion but man it's painfully obvious in 2017
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