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    #24002441 - 01/11/17 09:14 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

The 2017 National Defense Authorization Act (Section 1287) just created a "GLOBAL ENGAGEMENT CENTER" under the US Secretary of State. 

"The purpose of the Center shall be to lead, synchronize, and coordinate efforts of the Federal Government to recognize, understand, expose, and counter foreign state and non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed at undermining United States national security interests."

I'm not sure whether countering foreign state and non state information gives them the ability to censor foreign news, but if so this would be an incredible blow to freedom of the press. 

Also, "The Center is authorized to provide grants or contracts of financial support to media content providers"

So now we won't even know if we're getting our news from journalists, or a Government propaganda agency.

To me, this is a serious blow to journalistic integrity, as this is nothing more than a Ministry of Propaganda.  Does anyone think this is a good idea?


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24002454 - 01/11/17 09:20 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I posted this before, but here is Hillary arguing the US needs to step up its propaganda war:



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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #24002461 - 01/11/17 09:23 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

It figures.


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
    #24002621 - 01/11/17 10:38 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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The Ministry of Truth -- Minitrue, in Newspeak -- was startlingly different from any other object in sight. It was an enormous pyramidal structure of glittering white concrete, soaring up, terrace after terrace, 300 metres into the air. From where Winston stood it was just possible to read, picked out on its white face in elegant lettering, the three slogans of the Party:

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: ballsalsa]
    #24002732 - 01/11/17 11:28 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four.  :smirk:


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #24003324 - 01/12/17 07:56 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)



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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10]
    #24004359 - 01/12/17 02:45 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

There used to be a day when the majority trusted the Government.  Ya know before they dosed people with LSD and God knows what else.  Like spying on everyone that could expose their mentality and operations.

I already thought PSYOPS was embedded in news agencies.  Propaganda was a big thing in world war II.  Then everyone ate their LSD and realized their full of shit!


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24004530 - 01/12/17 03:35 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

"[Counter efforts made at undermining] US national security interests"


Theres that phrase again. We won't be artacking those who undermine the TRUTH, or DEMOCRACY, we'll be attacking those who undermine our interests. And Lord knows it would take a FOIA request signed by George Washington to find out what those are.


Luckily, the GOP is all about govt accountability so this should be axed immediately...


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24004567 - 01/12/17 03:45 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Propaganda has never been easier or more difficult.  There is a huge population that adheres to this or that and can be misguided.  That's sorta what makes democracy beautiful and intelligent until a foreign power makes it corrupt.  Even a domestic source of power could derail good ideas.


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24004743 - 01/12/17 04:44 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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Propaganda has never been easier or more difficult.  There is a huge population that adheres to this or that and can be misguided.  That's sorta what makes democracy beautiful and intelligent until a foreign power makes it corrupt.  Even a domestic source of power could derail good ideas.



You mean like the domestic liberal-leaning establishment media that are derailing trump's impeccable job creation deals?


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10]
    #24004804 - 01/12/17 05:04 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Seriously dude.  Wipe the trump poop off your nose!


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10]
    #24004833 - 01/12/17 05:14 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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Morel Guy said:
Propaganda has never been easier or more difficult.  There is a huge population that adheres to this or that and can be misguided.  That's sorta what makes democracy beautiful and intelligent until a foreign power makes it corrupt.  Even a domestic source of power could derail good ideas.



You mean like the domestic liberal-leaning establishment media that are derailing trump's impeccable job creation deals?




Dude. The topic of the thread is literally a teed up shot at establishment democrats, no need to resort to irrelevant fantasy this time around.


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24004854 - 01/12/17 05:19 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

I like the liberal media although some evolving would always be welcome.

We have a local paper owned by the republican party.  It's a different community vibe than national news.  They seem dumber and in awe why there is so much crime.  I guess religion and political views weren't  strong social glue.


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24005039 - 01/12/17 06:11 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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Morel Guy said:
Propaganda has never been easier or more difficult.  There is a huge population that adheres to this or that and can be misguided.  That's sorta what makes democracy beautiful and intelligent until a foreign power makes it corrupt.  Even a domestic source of power could derail good ideas.



You mean like the domestic liberal-leaning establishment media that are derailing trump's impeccable job creation deals?




Dude. The topic of the thread is literally a teed up shot at establishment democrats, no need to resort to irrelevant fantasy this time around.



No offense but morel guy is still thoroughly brainwashed by the liberal-leaning establishment media and some of you guys still haven't disavowed it as vocally as you should. There's nothing fictional about what I said. Call it fantasy all you want, you can't refute it with a logical argument because you know it's true.


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24005047 - 01/12/17 06:13 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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Seriously dude.  Wipe the trump poop off your nose!



How is observing reality now equivalent to kissing trump's ass?


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10]
    #24005051 - 01/12/17 06:14 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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You mean like the domestic liberal-leaning establishment media that are derailing trump's impeccable job creation deals?

morel guy is still thoroughly brainwashed by the liberal-leaning establishment media



I hope one day you learn the difference between "establishment" and "liberal".  They are literally opposites.

If you struck the words "liberal-leaning", I might agree with you.


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24005084 - 01/12/17 06:25 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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You mean like the domestic liberal-leaning establishment media that are derailing trump's impeccable job creation deals?

morel guy is still thoroughly brainwashed by the liberal-leaning establishment media



I hope one day you learn the difference between "establishment" and "liberal".  They are literally opposites.

If you struck the words "liberal-leaning", I might agree with you.



You can't deny that most reporters are just liberal elite SJW's who are reporting dishonestly solely because they're butthurt about the election. It's just obvious to about anyone and everyone around me, even the Hillary voters I hang out with.


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10]
    #24005099 - 01/12/17 06:29 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Maybe young people who circulate information easily through social media and who are more plugged in than older people are just more woke


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #24005171 - 01/12/17 06:48 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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I hope one day you learn the difference between "establishment" and "liberal".  They are literally opposites.



You can't deny that most reporters are just liberal elite SJW's who are reporting dishonestly solely because they're butthurt about the election.



Yes, I can.  The establishment media supported both conservative establishment candidates and liberal establishment candidates.  When Trump won on the conservative side, the only establishment candidate left was Hillary, so they gravitated towards her.

If they were truly liberal, they'd have given Bernie a LOT more support.


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Re: US Government Creates Ministry of Propoganda [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #24005176 - 01/12/17 06:49 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Exactly.


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