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Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional?
#24001605 - 01/11/17 03:50 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Or less?
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse] 1
#24001619 - 01/11/17 03:56 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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They can for sure do either, or both, or neither.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24001620 - 01/11/17 03:57 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Likely more. But they could awaken awareness of changes required. They seem to open us to magical and religious thinking.
I have felt much more as a whole person from use. Even the trips where things we shattered, it didn't last.
But i don't think shrooms or tripping will heal delusion or psychosis. They tend to go where no psychosis goes. May reinforce incorrect thought and analysis.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: xzylocybin]
#24001621 - 01/11/17 03:58 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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xzylocybin said: They can for sure do either, or both, or neither.
Elaborate.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24001629 - 01/11/17 04:02 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Well depending on your mind state at the time and what is happening around you and what you are doing, a heavy mushroom trip could make you more delusional, less delusional, or it could not effect your level of delusion at all. Both are possible but there are so many variables. I have experienced all three myself.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: xzylocybin]
#24001666 - 01/11/17 04:16 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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It depends on who you are as a person, if you are a asshole to everyone and hate life then it's just going to make your life worst but if youre a good person and are not vary emotional then it won't effect you in the mental long run.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24001863 - 01/11/17 05:51 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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More delusional in the short term
Less delusional in the long term
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24003229 - 01/12/17 06:29 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: redgreenvines]
#24003333 - 01/12/17 08:04 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Depends on the individual and how much is consumed and how frequently
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24003515 - 01/12/17 09:34 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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the Ancient Maya were the most sadistic culture ever, & seem to have used psychedelics as did Charlie Manson
on the other hand after tripping many went on to study meditation
so actual results support the views of those above who have said it is variable
even enlightenment does does not significantly raise IQ or practical knowledge it is about liberation from a self not of a self clinging to opinions is considered another attachment
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: laughingdog]
#24003594 - 01/12/17 10:04 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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I stopped all the toad vivisections after LSD
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: laughingdog]
#24003691 - 01/12/17 10:43 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Most primitive people were sadistic.
Charles Manson was the son of a street walking whore. Obviously someone like that takes advantage of having power over others.
There will always be drama among closed groups that practice psychedelics.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: Morel Guy]
#24003708 - 01/12/17 10:51 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Morel Guy said: Most primitive people were sadistic.
Charles Manson was the son of a street walking whore. Obviously someone like that takes advantage of having power over others.
There will always be drama among closed groups that practice psychedelics.
If we assume your statements are true, the evidence (specifically in these cases: the Maya & Manson) still suggests psychedelics are not a cure all, and in fact may often exacerbate delusional or undesirable tendencies. As many posters previous to us both suggested.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: laughingdog]
#24003784 - 01/12/17 11:16 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Not arguing if you read my previous posts.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: MagicBLUNT420]
#24004394 - 01/12/17 02:57 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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MagicBLUNT420 said: It depends on who you are as a person, if you are a asshole to everyone and hate life then it's just going to make your life worst but if youre a good person and are not vary emotional then it won't effect you in the mental long run.
I think I understand.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24004417 - 01/12/17 03:05 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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I think they hyperconnect the brain, also it makes it obvious you are the Witness, not the body.
So when that happens, you start to get a bit delusional, which is simply not believing the delusions of the culture, you believe your own delusions. They are all delusions because no one has any idea.
Anyone who thinks they have any idea is lacking in broader experience of life.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24004418 - 01/12/17 03:05 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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I am sorta intersted in group delusion. I think there is more truth and meaning to the otherwise absurd.
The main delusion i have ever know was the past was not what i knew or the shrooms were comtaiminated. I guess thinking the joint was not laced could also be delusional.
Delusion is a persistant state of thinking wrongly. Most lf the world is delusional. Being able to hide it or culturally incoperate it is power.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: Morel Guy]
#24004449 - 01/12/17 03:13 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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incoperate. could you give me the language of origin?
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24004454 - 01/12/17 03:15 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Sorry, turned off auto correct cause it's often stupid.
Incorperate?
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: beforethedawn]
#24004472 - 01/12/17 03:20 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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beforethedawn said: I think they hyperconnect the brain, also it makes it obvious you are the Witness, not the body.
So when that happens, you start to get a bit delusional, which is simply not believing the delusions of the culture, you believe your own delusions. They are all delusions because no one has any idea.
Anyone who thinks they have any idea is lacking in broader experience of life.
I understand the witness part until you capitalized it and then it got weird.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24004492 - 01/12/17 03:25 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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The witness might be for a ride and escape. But some things sure do suck to witness.
Osho spoke of being witness. It seems to miss the suffering that we experience.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: Morel Guy]
#24004511 - 01/12/17 03:29 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Morel Guy said: The witness might be for a ride and escape. But some things sure do suck to witness.
Osho spoke of being witness. It seems to miss the suffering that we experience.
As I witness the extinction of the planet, I can only help but wonder what the other humans are looking at. The drop off in bugs, just one example. Anybody out there paying attention? It's pretty obvious to anyone even remotely awake.
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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: Morel Guy]
#24004555 - 01/12/17 03:42 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Morel Guy said: I am sorta intersted in group delusion. I think there is more truth and meaning to the otherwise absurd.
The main delusion i have ever know was the past was not what i knew or the shrooms were comtaiminated. I guess thinking the joint was not laced could also be delusional.
Delusion is a persistant state of thinking wrongly. Most lf the world is delusional. Being able to hide it or culturally incoperate it is power.
This is what culture/societies do. They create a mode of thinking that is accepted as truth, and everything else is discarded.
So who is to say what is delusional? Because the atheists think the religious are delusional, the civilized think the aboriginals are, and so on down the line. But we really don't know what is right and what wrong, so how can we determine this?
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Using intelligence helps solve new situations.
Trying to put the devil in the details is a culural evolution.
Climing to know when we flat out don't, is delusional thinking. Speculating is okay, but firmly believing may be delusion. Being impartail is important and i know people don't want to risk their everlasting consciousness.
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Time to get the committee working on the problem.
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