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Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional?
    #24001605 - 01/11/17 03:50 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Or less?


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse] * 1
    #24001619 - 01/11/17 03:56 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

They can for sure do either, or both, or neither.


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24001620 - 01/11/17 03:57 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Likely more.  But they could awaken awareness of changes required.  They seem to open us to magical and religious thinking.

I have felt much more as a whole person from use.  Even the trips where things we shattered, it didn't last.

But i don't think shrooms or tripping will heal delusion or psychosis.  They tend to go where no psychosis goes.  May reinforce incorrect thought and analysis.


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: xzylocybin]
    #24001621 - 01/11/17 03:58 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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They can for sure do either, or both, or neither.




Elaborate.


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24001629 - 01/11/17 04:02 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Well depending on your mind state at the time and what is happening around you and what you are doing, a heavy mushroom trip could make you more delusional, less delusional, or it could not effect your level of delusion at all. Both are possible but there are so many variables. I have experienced all three myself.


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: xzylocybin]
    #24001666 - 01/11/17 04:16 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

It depends on who you are as a person, if you are a asshole to everyone and hate life then it's just going to make your life worst but if youre a good person and are not vary emotional then it won't effect you in the mental long run.


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24001863 - 01/11/17 05:51 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

More delusional in the short term

Less delusional in the long term


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24003229 - 01/12/17 06:29 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

me - less


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #24003333 - 01/12/17 08:04 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Depends on the individual and how much is consumed and how frequently


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24003515 - 01/12/17 09:34 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

the Ancient Maya were the most sadistic culture ever, & seem to have used psychedelics
as did Charlie Manson

on the other hand
after tripping many went on to study meditation

so actual results support the views of those above who have said it is variable

even enlightenment does does not significantly raise IQ or practical knowledge
it is about liberation from a self not of a self
clinging to opinions is considered another attachment


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: laughingdog]
    #24003594 - 01/12/17 10:04 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

I stopped all the toad vivisections after LSD


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: laughingdog]
    #24003691 - 01/12/17 10:43 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Most primitive people were sadistic.

Charles Manson was the son of a street walking whore.  Obviously someone like that takes advantage of having power over others. 

There will always be drama among closed groups that practice psychedelics.


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24003708 - 01/12/17 10:51 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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Most primitive people were sadistic.

Charles Manson was the son of a street walking whore.  Obviously someone like that takes advantage of having power over others. 

There will always be drama among closed groups that practice psychedelics.




If we assume your statements are true, the evidence (specifically in these cases: the Maya & Manson) still suggests psychedelics are not a cure all, and in fact may often exacerbate delusional or undesirable tendencies. As many posters previous to us both suggested.


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: laughingdog]
    #24003784 - 01/12/17 11:16 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Not arguing if you read my previous posts.


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24003826 - 01/12/17 11:35 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

:smile:


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: MagicBLUNT420]
    #24004394 - 01/12/17 02:57 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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It depends on who you are as a person, if you are a asshole to everyone and hate life then it's just going to make your life worst but if youre a good person and are not vary emotional then it won't effect you in the mental long run.




I think I understand.


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24004417 - 01/12/17 03:05 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

I think they hyperconnect the brain, also it makes it obvious you are the Witness, not the body.

So when that happens, you start to get a bit delusional, which is simply not believing the delusions of the culture, you believe your own delusions. They are all delusions because no one has any idea.

Anyone who thinks they have any idea is lacking in broader experience of life.


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24004418 - 01/12/17 03:05 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

I am sorta intersted in group delusion.  I think there is more truth and meaning to the otherwise absurd.

The main delusion i have ever know was the past was not what i knew or the shrooms were comtaiminated.  I guess thinking the joint was not laced could also be delusional.

Delusion is a persistant state of thinking wrongly.  Most lf the world is delusional.  Being able to hide it or culturally incoperate it is power.


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24004449 - 01/12/17 03:13 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

incoperate.  could you give me the language of origin?


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Re: Do Shrooms Make You More Delusional? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24004454 - 01/12/17 03:15 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Sorry, turned off auto correct cause it's often stupid.

Incorperate?


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