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Offlinepsilynut
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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: Psychonott] * 2
    #24001036 - 01/11/17 12:19 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Do you have any evidence CNN is reporting untrue stories?
Should we all just believe watever comes out of this twitter bitch's  mouth ?


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #24013361 - 01/15/17 10:32 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

I heard the other day if Trump had just taken his inheritance money and put it in a bank (the trust fund he got from his dad) he'd actually have more money than he does now after starting huge business "empires". He's also gone bankrupt atleast once.

Seems to me he's really not as successful as a lot of you Trump lover's believe.


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: Morel Guy] * 2
    #24014011 - 01/16/17 08:29 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Morel Guy said:
Whats wealth got to do with leadership?

Pablo escobar was rich, look what he lead.

Trump was given $200 million.  I say he's a trust fund faggot.




Trump's rich daddy gave him a leg up on life, why do you think Webster identifies with him so much?


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: KauaiOrca] * 2
    #24014816 - 01/16/17 01:55 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Good points.

It seems to me that Obama saw his election as a mandate for social justice. The economics fell by the wayside, and we see what happens when you ignore such a glaring issue for a decade.

The real question is what is Trump's plan for inequality? He wants to kick 30 million people off their health insurance, and then tax them so he can build a wall which will accomplish zero of its intended goals.

Honestly, whats his plan for this? Is there one? Some vague infrastructure plan?




Being totally honest, I can't stand Trump and find him personally repulsive.  Having said that, I don't think he truly wants to kick everyone off their health insurance.  I think he really believes that he can single handedly negotiate better prices and bring the overall cost down.  Trump IS NOT a big corporation kind of guy.  He's more of a small FAMILY BUSINESS kind of person.  He has always kept his company privately owned and has been critical of people that make money off of money.  He's a builder ... He makes stuff ... real stuff and the stock / debt game is not really his schtick.  I think, deep down, he believes the publicly traded corporate game is a big scam and although he can't say it, he thinks he's smarter than they are.

He wants to BUILD STUFF and put a lot of people to work doing it.  I think he's a lot more like Ike than any other President in terms of his thinking and goals. 

Obviously, not in temperment.




Truth be told, I'm much more wary of an emboldened GOP legislature than I am Trump. Its been my concern from day one. Its why I argued for the complete shithead of a person Hillary during the general. The country is much better served under a Democratic Congress and Senate. That won't be a reality until 2020 at the very least, barring some complete GOP meltdown. But yeah, I'm not too worried about Trump himself. Dog whistle rhetoric aside, he's a pretty liberal GOP president-elect.


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    #24000967 - 01/11/17 11:55 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/313777-trump-berates-cnn-reporter-for-fake-news#


Anytime liars are exposed it is a good thing.

For too long has the mainstream narrative played the roles of ultra politically correct journalists and then subjectively abuse this facade for political agendas


An example would be billy bush comment with trump during the election. The media responded shocked that such words didn't it make to the air years earlier and they never heard of such talk.

When in reality trump was expressing his shock that women actually ask to be grabbed in some cases and or how famous people get away with it without any complaints from both parties.



I just hope this calling out of fake news aka the consolidated mainstream sources that all share conglomerate interests.

At least let it expose the corrupt practices of holding double standards and pretending to be ultra politically correct and using that hostile climate discriminately  for political agendas


Even if it doesn't man this is undoing years of propaganda and credibility building excercises as CNN just had to defend its own credibility on air today. They are falling hard recently!


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Enlils true purpose is to get us off topic and to cast enough logical doubts so that outsiders viewing this would be more likely to side with his fake opinions rather than our or sometimes controlled opppsotions opinions.


You see if you are too skilled at not falling for their traps and stating logically sound debunks then other accounts who purposefully agree with 90% of the truth join in and get the entire topic off the main points.

It's their 1960s version of damage control and diversion but man it's painfully obvious in 2017


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: Psychonott] * 1
    #24001679 - 01/11/17 04:22 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Can you prove even 1 story CNN has reported is fake ?



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What's worse is that Republicans introduced a bill (S.2692 - Countering Information Warfare Act of 2016) that would censor any news the US Government didn't like, such as news that was critical of the US Government.


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You may want read the text of the law first .  Any news ?  Correct me if wrong but I don't think that bill gives them the power to censor our own media .  It's all about countering other countries propaganda and disinformation . I didn't see anything in there about censoring anything .

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2692/text

""To counter foreign disinformation and propaganda,"


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: psilynut] * 1
    #24001685 - 01/11/17 04:28 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

that shit was beautiful


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: projectbadass] * 1
    #24002181 - 01/11/17 07:32 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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psilynut said:
You may want read the text of the law first .  Correct me if wrong but I don't think that bill gives them the power to censor our own media .  It's all about countering other countries propaganda and disinformation .



It turns out the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act (Section 1287) created a "GLOBAL ENGAGEMENT CENTER" (a.k.a. Ministry of Propoganda) with the purpose of countering foreign propaganda (news).  I don't know whether or not "countering" gives them the authority to censor (maybe Enlil knows?)

It also gives the Global Engagement Center the authority to pay media content providers to print Government propaganda "to influence the policies and social and political stability of the United States".  So now we won't know if we're getting real news or Government propaganda.

http://www.johnlaurits.com/2016/12/10/disinformation-bill-propaganda/


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #24004749 - 01/12/17 04:46 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
CNN is garbage but the President writing off legitimate national security concerns as fake just because CNN reported on it first sets a bad precedent.



He's not writing off legitimate national security concerns. He's writing up porn fan fiction with a Russian spy twist to it that originated from 4chan.


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: Psychonott] * 1
    #24007043 - 01/13/17 12:27 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Yeaaah , cause it would be fucked if the guy who  claimed , for years , on every news outlet that would have him , that our first black president  wasn't a US a citizen without any evidence to to back it up , had shit made up about him  now he's president . Yep wouldn't want that .


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #24011460 - 01/15/17 08:09 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

I'm sorry but you just sound clueless :shrug:


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #24012913 - 01/15/17 07:24 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Webster10 said:
I'm sorry but you just sound clueless :shrug:




Of course he is

Obviously, anyone who runs multi billion dollar businesses can't be a leader, obviously :lol:

Keep melting More, your tears are delicious


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
    #24013784 - 01/16/17 04:54 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

:yawn:

He's the wealthiest US president ever. Keep talking about success.


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: howsyournaggerdoin] * 1
    #24013922 - 01/16/17 07:42 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Whats wealth got to do with leadership?

Pablo escobar was rich, look what he lead.

Trump was given $200 million.  I say he's a trust fund faggot.


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #24014023 - 01/16/17 08:34 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Webster10 said:
Fair enough, but I'd like to point out that you saying he's emotionally immature is yet another bogus talking point used by liberal-leaning establishment media to push their narrative.




I don't listen to liberal leaning media so I can't say.  I simply am talking from my experience of seeing Trump interact politically over the last 18 months.  He way overacts to small criticism, he's overly aggressive when he doesn't need to be and he uses language that, frankly, isn't a good fit for a President.

He displays all kinds of traits of emotionally immature people.  And I have no doubt at all that he has strong executive chops as they're applied to real estate development and promotion.  He seems to constantly make up facts to suit his narrative, I suspect because as President of a tightly owned company for decades, he could operate that way because he'd simply fire you if you challenged him. 

In the public square, he's being called out constantly for his creative fact production and it's obvious he makes a lot of it up on the spot.


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: qman] * 1
    #24014319 - 01/16/17 10:55 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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qman said:
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howsyournaggerdoin said:
I know exactly what you mean but it still doesnt add any validity to your point




Passing on wealth to one's offspring is a good thing, why do you pass judgment on it?  Jealous"?




I love that if you're poor and criticize trust fund billionaires you're jealous. If you're rich and you do it, you're a hypocrite.


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #24014848 - 01/16/17 02:04 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

KauaiOrca said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Good points.

It seems to me that Obama saw his election as a mandate for social justice. The economics fell by the wayside, and we see what happens when you ignore such a glaring issue for a decade.

The real question is what is Trump's plan for inequality? He wants to kick 30 million people off their health insurance, and then tax them so he can build a wall which will accomplish zero of its intended goals.

Honestly, whats his plan for this? Is there one? Some vague infrastructure plan?




Being totally honest, I can't stand Trump and find him personally repulsive.  Having said that, I don't think he truly wants to kick everyone off their health insurance.  I think he really believes that he can single handedly negotiate better prices and bring the overall cost down.  Trump IS NOT a big corporation kind of guy.  He's more of a small FAMILY BUSINESS kind of person.  He has always kept his company privately owned and has been critical of people that make money off of money.  He's a builder ... He makes stuff ... real stuff and the stock / debt game is not really his schtick.  I think, deep down, he believes the publicly traded corporate game is a big scam and although he can't say it, he thinks he's smarter than they are.

He wants to BUILD STUFF and put a lot of people to work doing it.  I think he's a lot more like Ike than any other President in terms of his thinking and goals. 

Obviously, not in temperment.




Truth be told, I'm much more wary of an emboldened GOP legislature than I am Trump. Its been my concern from day one. Its why I argued for the complete shithead of a person Hillary during the general. The country is much better served under a Democratic Congress and Senate. That won't be a reality until 2020 at the very least, barring some complete GOP meltdown. But yeah, I'm not too worried about Trump himself. Dog whistle rhetoric aside, he's a pretty liberal GOP president-elect.




I fail to see much of a difference between a R or D Congressman, both are bought and paid for by similar interests.

Trump has a much opposition from the R's today as the D's, the Ryan's, McCain's and McConnell's of the world piss on every idea Trump has proposed.


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: KauaiOrca] * 1
    #24014868 - 01/16/17 02:14 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
It's FAR, FAR easier for someone who starts out rich to make their own fortune.  This has been shown many times in this forum.



I would bet that the percentage of kids that inherit, let's say $5mm bucks or more and actually create a new company that grows to a value of >$100mm is very, very small.



I would bet the number of $100mm companies started by people who had $5mm to invest is FAR, FAR, larger than the number of $100mm companies started by people who had nothing to invest.

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Most of the generational wealth that is passed on is often done through investment trusts where nothing new is actually created.  A lot of studies have been done to illustrate how 2nd and 3rd generations, when they are brought in to run the company, have a strong tendency to ruin it and run it into the ground.



CEOs that run their company into the ground still earn millions for doing so, while people who work for that company simply lose their jobs and get nothing.


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #24016324 - 01/17/17 12:17 AM (7 years, 12 days ago)

They seem to have forgotten that a large middle class is a major driver of the economy in our consumer-driven markets.


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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news [Re: Le_Canard] * 1
    #24016540 - 01/17/17 04:39 AM (7 years, 12 days ago)

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Le_Canard said:
They seem to have forgotten that a large middle class is a major driver of the economy in our consumer-driven markets.




BINGO!


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