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OfflinePatlal
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Videos of men punching back at a woman. * 1
    #24000499 - 01/11/17 08:42 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I don't support male violence toward woman. Unless of course she started swinging and you're defending yourself.

Let's have that debate.

Watch this for the lulz.

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal] * 4
    #24000627 - 01/11/17 09:40 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Well, bitches always ask for equal rights...


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #24000631 - 01/11/17 09:41 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Chivalry at it's best. yeah the whole world is a mess. Women have no right swinging at someone literally twice their size to begin with.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Deathby69]
    #24000657 - 01/11/17 09:54 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

The ONLY way I would hit back is if there were a group attacking me. Otherwise if it was one on one I would just subdue.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Deathby69]
    #24000666 - 01/11/17 09:57 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Keep your hands to yourself, don't hurt anyone unless you have to, hyper-violent culture.

Not watching the video.

There are some bitches that think they can walk on whoever they want, men too, and they should learn sooner or later. I dunno if punching them is always the right way tho. Imo handling a woman like she's a kitten when she's trying to catfight with you can be degrading enough that she wises up.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24000667 - 01/11/17 09:58 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Probably works for dudes too.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 3
    #24000677 - 01/11/17 10:02 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

some of these chicks in the video deserve what they are getting


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
    #24000702 - 01/11/17 10:10 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Deserve is a funny word. It can mean almost anything you want it to mean.


There is a difference between justice and revenge.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
    #24000706 - 01/11/17 10:11 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24000709 - 01/11/17 10:12 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Deserve is a funny word. It can mean almost anything you want it to mean.


There is a difference between justice and revenge.



The difference is psi. Id imagine the latter will have more.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #24000710 - 01/11/17 10:12 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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There is a difference between justice and revenge.




Justice is merely state sanctioned revenge.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal] * 4
    #24000723 - 01/11/17 10:16 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Most of the dudes in that video went way overboard in my opinion, if you feel the need to punch a woman in the face just because she slapped you or keeps telling you to then you're a pathetic pussy in my mind. If she is hauling off and actually a threat then that's a different story and you should have every right to defend yourself. Don't care to argue it, I'll never agree with hitting women unless they're truly fucking you up and a real threat to you, not just because they slapped you or are in your face telling you to hit them and "acting like a man" as a lot of people like to say anymore. Don't have a good reason for my beliefs on the subject, it's just what I personally feel is right.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24000725 - 01/11/17 10:19 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Deserve is a funny word. It can mean almost anything you want it to mean.


There is a difference between justice and revenge.




Deserve as in they're in the guy's face and slapping and punching on the nose.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: DieCommie] * 1
    #24000730 - 01/11/17 10:20 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I'd say it's culturally sanctioned revenge. If someone hits you you do get to hit them back. But I've seen a dude deck a woman for slapping him. That's revenge. It's excessive for the situation.


Now if she were repeatedly slapping and kicking at him that would be different.


But this is why the old adage is "it's never okay for a man to hit a woman" because they often hit harder and take hits better. For a number of reasons. So I'm not going to condone punching a woman in the face every time she hits you. I've hit dudes with all my might and barely got a grunt whereas they could pick me up and throw me like a kitten. And probably break bones if they wanted.

Justice implies fairness, while revenge is always a one-up.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: DieCommie]
    #24000738 - 01/11/17 10:23 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I remember saying to a male friend of mine years - men shouldn't hit women it's wrong, he replied yeah it is, but if she is big enough to come smack a guy she should be big enough to take one back :shrug:
I am against it still, but then I'm against when these women come marching over bitching and screaming hitting guys like it's okay too.
Also disgusts me that people see a guy hitting a girl so they jump in, sometimes.
But when a woman is hitting a man, people walk past laughing?!


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Spellbound]
    #24000747 - 01/11/17 10:27 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

We need a middle ground.....tasers.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #24000762 - 01/11/17 10:33 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Our culture is really weird. Like in some cases it's considered more offensive and embarrassing to the man to try and pull his woman off of him.


Kind of an outdated concept too. It comes from a time when men were expected to smack their wives when they got out of hand... So if your lady got on you in the same way you either "deserve it" or are to deal with it in a passive aggressive way or aren't really a man and "deserve" to have someone toughen you up anyway.

So for other men to be concerned enough to pull a woman off you implies you are a complete failure as a man.


Being said, I've done it before. And I think I did the lady a favor cuz dude looked pissed.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #24000769 - 01/11/17 10:36 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Most of those clips just looked like guys with poor impulse control, especially that dude on CCTV in the restaurant, or that guy being a hood rat in the red shirt & doo rag.  Pretty much any of those men could've walked away or otherwise subdued those women.  I'm not saying that the women weren't wrong in the first place- as a general rule, I don't think people should hit each other.  But as a guy, I can't imagine just straight up punching some gal for slapping me.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #24000775 - 01/11/17 10:39 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Hanging around in front gardens getting videod beating each other up.

School's out for the summer.

That bus driver must've played a lot of street fighter.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #24000785 - 01/11/17 10:43 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Most of the dudes in that video went way overboard in my opinion, if you feel the need to punch a woman in the face just because she slapped you or keeps telling you to then you're a pathetic pussy in my mind. If she is hauling off and actually a threat then that's a different story and you should have every right to defend yourself.




Pretty much how I feel about this whole thing.

Think about it this way, if a disabled person in a wheelchair is mad at me and slapping me, I'm not going to be that person that knocks their teeth out.

You have to consider the person's size and stature when taking into account confrontations like these. And if they are significantly smaller or weaker than you, it only makes YOU look like the bad guy to hit them, even if they were technically the aggressor.

And if you DO hit somebody significantly smaller back, like say a child, you certainly don't hit them full-force or even half-force. Does that make sense Patlal?


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #24000850 - 01/11/17 11:10 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Most of those clips just looked like guys with poor impulse control, especially that dude on CCTV in the restaurant, or that guy being a hood rat in the red shirt & doo rag.  Pretty much any of those men could've walked away or otherwise subdued those women.  I'm not saying that the women weren't wrong in the first place- as a general rule, I don't think people should hit each other.  But as a guy, I can't imagine just straight up punching some gal for slapping me.




You know this reminds me of when I was in high school and this chick kept getting up in this dudes face. He didn't look at her but he warned her several times and tried to walk away from her. Till she cornered him and tried to shove him. By that point dude was rightfully pissed and shoved her back, almost knocked her over a desk. That would be when friends of both stepped in.


That scenario sounds very fair imo. And if the woman went so far as to slap him I'd say he could slap her back.

Though if she did fall over (backwards) over the desk, while not intentional, it would have been excessive. Especially since he was pushed against a wall and she had a good chance of busting her head on the tile floor.


Not that I would expect someone that frustrated to think clearly enough about how little force is needed to send a >100lb woman flying. Still he never hit her, he didn't even touch her, and he did everything in his power to avoid the situation. Respect :thumbup:


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 3
    #24000958 - 01/11/17 11:53 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Women need to know it isnt safe to attack someone. Women are also really weak. There is some value if the more masculinized women of today know that acting like a man gets you treated like one

A women isnt a child or a chair bound person. You would get fucked up if you were a 100 pound man and tried that.

We should have self control though. No need to beat someone over a slap. Pinch her boob flab or something.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
    #24001100 - 01/11/17 12:47 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

this video is so fucked, some parts of it are hilarious but its mainly just retarded


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #24001238 - 01/11/17 01:47 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Women are also really weak.

We should have self control though. No need to beat someone over a slap. Pinch her boob flab or something.




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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
    #24001265 - 01/11/17 01:54 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

what the fuck is wrong with you patlal?  do you actually ponder this weird stuff or just post it for attention?


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #24001267 - 01/11/17 01:55 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Quick reply here-

Ya know, my whole life my father has told me I have to be careful with my temper and to avoid confrontation as best I could to prevent myself from accidentally killing somebody if I did decide to hit them

I'm a big man, 6'5 275lbs and athletic, so hitting somebody out of frustration has never been an option for me, never mind hitting a woman

I won't get into the damage I've accidentally inflicted with only one punch in the past, but I will say that with size and strength comes responsibility, and I just can't imagine a situation in which I would strike a woman, short of her actually threatening my life with a weapon


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: moonrockmushy] * 2
    #24001306 - 01/11/17 02:08 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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what the fuck is wrong with you patlal?  do you actually ponder this weird stuff or just post it for attention?




It's both I think.
He wants to make "successful threads."

And successful headlines are always the most dramatic. That's why we're all paranoid, stressed out, and stupid. Cuz that's all that gets talked about anymore.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: stzacrack]
    #24001309 - 01/11/17 02:09 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I didn't watch the video but the title of this thread is funny.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24001314 - 01/11/17 02:10 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I'd block patlal, but I would miss a lot of wonderful peoples posts and conversations that had nothing to do with patlals morbid fantasies.

Patlal, what's your 4chan username?


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #24001318 - 01/11/17 02:11 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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what the fuck is wrong with you patlal?  do you actually ponder this weird stuff or just post it for attention?




That and people getting bit by snakes.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24001322 - 01/11/17 02:12 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Quote:

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what the fuck is wrong with you patlal?  do you actually ponder this weird stuff or just post it for attention?




It's both I think.
He wants to make "successful threads."

And successful headlines are always the most dramatic. That's why we're all paranoid, stressed out, and stupid. Cuz that's all that gets talked about anymore.




Believe or not, some people love my threads and me. I got like 260 rating to prove it.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: vandago]
    #24001325 - 01/11/17 02:12 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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I'd block patlal, but I would miss a lot of wonderful peoples posts and conversations that had nothing to do with patlals morbid fantasies.

Patlal, what's your 4chan username?




I don't post in any other forum than this one. I don't cheat on my lover.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
    #24001332 - 01/11/17 02:14 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I thought your lover was meeting guys off OKcupid that cried in her bathroom?


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: vandago]
    #24001339 - 01/11/17 02:17 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

TRIGGERED!!!!!!!


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: vandago]
    #24001347 - 01/11/17 02:19 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

There is value in discussing alot of these things. It's just weird that alot of these hard topics come from you, from one person. Not only that but you also have videos and articles (without sources.) which makes me wonder if you actively think of these things and then seek supporting sources to back you without having to mention an opinion in the OP (which is pretty smart I'll admit) or if you just browse the web all day and think "THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THREAD."


I genuinely do wonder how you come up with these things.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24001351 - 01/11/17 02:20 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Oh no, Patlal thinks about things!
You do realize, you sound ridiculous, right CC?


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24001386 - 01/11/17 02:30 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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There is value in discussing alot of these things. It's just weird that alot of these hard topics come from you, from one person. Not only that but you also have videos and articles (without sources.) which makes me wonder if you actively think of these things and then seek supporting sources to back you without having to mention an opinion in the OP (which is pretty smart I'll admit) or if you just browse the web all day and think "THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THREAD."


I genuinely do wonder how you come up with these things.






Well he posted about his girl having a psycho crying in her bathroom the other day, so I didn't know what to really do in that response to his cheating comment.



Or are you talking to someone else?


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #24001392 - 01/11/17 02:32 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
There is value in discussing alot of these things. It's just weird that alot of these hard topics come from you, from one person. Not only that but you also have videos and articles (without sources.) which makes me wonder if you actively think of these things and then seek supporting sources to back you without having to mention an opinion in the OP (which is pretty smart I'll admit) or if you just browse the web all day and think "THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THREAD."


I genuinely do wonder how you come up with these things.




I read a shit ton of books, I watch TED talks all the time and I follow the news of 5 different countries.

I limit myself at 2 threads a day because otherwise I would own the first page of the Pub.

Whenever I see that the first page is boring, I start a few threads.

As of right now, I could easily start 5 different threads on 5 completely different subjects.

Also I don't post an opinion in the OP because A: It skews the opinion of others and B: I open myself up for attacks which would immediately derail the thread.

I enjoy reading the opinions of people on sensitive subjects because it shows how humanity reacts. Of course I try to make the titles as click baitable as I can. And yes, I go for successful threads.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: abltsandwich]
    #24001396 - 01/11/17 02:33 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Lol... the fat couple was funny

But some guys should real learn how to use reasonable force... for starters women are already at a physical disadvantage and if you feel the need to put a bitch in a coma because she slapped you... you're a piece of shit and need to be flushed


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: abltsandwich] * 1
    #24001401 - 01/11/17 02:33 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I think men shouldnt hit women back just cuz it looks weird af..


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
    #24001430 - 01/11/17 02:42 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I punched my sister in the stomach once.  We were both teenagers and she had me by the hair and was tugging back and forth. She's kinda fat so she probably outweighed me by 20 lbs.  I gave her a couple warnings and about 10 sec to think about it, then i let her have it. POW!  I didn't hit her nearly as hard as i could have, but she let go.  Then the waterworks come on, and i'm the bad guy.  My whole family was there and anyone could have intervened at any time.  They started to jump my shit and i was like "fuck you, fuck you, fuck,you, fuck you, I'm out" like in Half-Baked.  She's the only lady i've ever had cause to even think about having to hit.

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: ballsalsa] * 3
    #24001494 - 01/11/17 03:05 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I think a good question is, were women always so emboldened to attack men like they do today?

My guess is no, with the strict domestic abuse laws that mostly favor women and with the constant marketing of women being physical and sexual abuse victims, I think it has given many women the mindset that they can attack men with impunity.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #24001584 - 01/11/17 03:41 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

See I punched my little brother in the chin and I got popped in the head for it. I learned from a relatively young age you are an asshole if you hit someone smaller and weaker than you.

I was very athletic in high school with thanks to JROTC and well over 200lbs (and could bench press more than that) so while I may have :flexed: and made threats for the most part I was more likely to hit a guy than a girl. Pound for pound, muscle for muscle, I dunno if I could have taken a guy my size but there was a few guys I handled like a kitten.

...or maybe rowdy puppies :smilingpuppy:
I know I couldn't take a muscular dude bigger and taller than me tho. I would wrestle with them and play football and definitely conest their strength but I was never stupid enough to do it in a serious manner. And they were smart enough not to treat me like another guy. Smart enough not to treat me like another girl too :lol:




But there was a tiny 90lb woman that was pretty much in a blind rage and I'm pretty sure she wanted to murder me with her bare hands. I did handle her like a kitten. Wrapped her up in my arms and held her until I could pass her off to someone else and leave. Imo that's what you should do when a woman smaller than you gets in your face and hits you. You stand up for yourself but you don't really end up hurting anyone. Unless they hurt themselves struggling but that's on them.



Qman: no. Though slapping a man when he gets out of bounds is such a strong cultural image I think there have been exceptions. Women might have been subjugated to men but they were still allowed to defend their honor.

Now the women I see pick fights with men that they clearly have no right in picking... Well they're fucking dumb and I think they'd pick a fight with 265lb me and gotten tossed like a kitten still. I don't think it's entirely incorrect, what you say, I think that's part of it and there is also a perception that a quick slap to the face won't hurt a man all too much (and ime this is sometimes the case.) but there are people of both sexes that think if they're loud enough and aggressive enough that everyone will cower from them. I very much believe they should learn otherwise. Won't ever agree with excessive force though, not unless she's trying to sterilize you with her foot.

There are younger ignorant women that think that's funny or a good way to get what they want. Imo a woman that kicks a guy in his junk, unless he's attacking her, probably does deserve to get punched.


Anyway I think all in all it's a sexism that has base in reality but can't be ironed out in a law. The sexism comes as much from males expectations of males as it does female expectations of males. Though that's pretty common of all stubborn forms of sexism.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24001692 - 01/11/17 04:31 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

No reply to me :frown:


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
    #24001717 - 01/11/17 04:43 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
    #24001720 - 01/11/17 04:45 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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No reply to me :frown:



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There is value in discussing alot of these things. It's just weird that alot of these hard topics come from you, from one person. Not only that but you also have videos and articles (without sources.) which makes me wonder if you actively think of these things and then seek supporting sources to back you without having to mention an opinion in the OP (which is pretty smart I'll admit) or if you just browse the web all day and think "THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THREAD."


I genuinely do wonder how you come up with these things.




I read a shit ton of books, I watch TED talks all the time and I follow the news of 5 different countries.

I limit myself at 2 threads a day because otherwise I would own the first page of the Pub.

Whenever I see that the first page is boring, I start a few threads.

As of right now, I could easily start 5 different threads on 5 completely different subjects.

Also I don't post an opinion in the OP because A: It skews the opinion of others and B: I open myself up for attacks which would immediately derail the thread.

I enjoy reading the opinions of people on sensitive subjects because it shows how humanity reacts. Of course I try to make the titles as click baitable as I can. And yes, I go for successful threads.





Woops. Sorry kitty. I thought a reply but apparently I didn't type it.

Makes sense tho. I used to listen to alot of interesting podcasts at work and enjoyed talking about the topics with people I know. Now I listen to fiction and unfortunately it's hard to talk about imaginary universe that no one is living with you. I can be so scatterbrained though that there usually isn't much point to me bringing up a topic anyway. I'm ADD and I think it interferes with other peoples' ADD and short attention spans.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
    #24001735 - 01/11/17 04:50 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I won't apply anymore than minimum force to stop an aggressive woman coming after me but if anyone came after a member of my family it will be my full intention to kill them, man, woman, or child.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #24001806 - 01/11/17 05:25 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I never hit or plan on hitting a female unless my life is at risk and i must do what i gatta do. I had my gf beat the shit out of me and i took it because if i would lay 1 hit its going to be a k.o and cops will probably come and il be the one with a bad rap n spend my days eating baloney sandwiches.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: diablo33180]
    #24001810 - 01/11/17 05:27 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Women, you can't live with them, yet you cat live without them. :lmafo:


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: acidninja]
    #24001896 - 01/11/17 06:02 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #24002514 - 01/11/17 09:47 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I watch a lot of fight videos. I've seen the full videos of all these already.
Some of them are kinda fucked up, the dudes went overboard in a couple but some of them they got exactly what they had coming.

The fucked up part is the double standard held by society. It's perfectly acceptable for a woman to hit or abuse a man but if a man defends himself and fights back he's a piece of shit that needs to go to jail?

There has been demonstrated in numerous different social experiments for this exact same thing in parts all over the world. The results are almost always the same. People laugh or rubberneck when a woman is beating up a man.. but step in or beat the man if he fights back.

It's exactly that mentality that causes shit like this to occur:




Anyway here's one of those clips from that video, the full one.. the bus driver uppercutting the fuck out of that chick.


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It is unclear what the two first began fighting over, but the female can be heard threatening to fight the driver. The driver then says he will get his daughter and granddaughter to come down and deal with the 25-year-old woman, who then tells him to bring along his "mammy," the International Business Times notes.

The woman approaches the bus driver, and the driver rises from his seat and hits the young woman before throwing her off the bus.

"She want to be a man, I'm gonna treat you like a man," the driver announces to the screaming crowd.
RTA officials are unsure when the uppercut incident occurred, but they believe it happened on Sept. 18, UPDATE: Oct. 13, 5:13 p.m. -- New information has been released, identifying the bus driver as Artis Hughes and the female passenger as Shidea N. Lane. According to the police report, obtained by Cleveland.com, Lane allegedly got on the bus driven by Hughes without paying, claiming she forgot her backpack. She proceeded to ask "Are you putting me off the bus?" and "Is this how you treat people in Cleveland?" Lane eventually paid and called Hughes a "bitch." The two got into a verbal argument, according to the police report, and Lane reportedly proceeded to grab Hughes' throat, spit in his face and strike him with her fist.




One of the other ones is some aggro chick punching some dude after saying what are you gonna do hit a girl?


Anyway I don't support hitting women. That's not fair.
But if woman demand equal rights and then they also want to incite violence upon men and they will laugh about it because they think they have complete immunity (and they are right in most cases), they shouldn't really be surprised when they get hit and laid out like a man also. Women and men are taught in society even from the youngest ages that women can hit men and men can NEVER fight back or hit them back. It's OK for women to hit men without fearing repercussions, but the reverse is demonized by all of society. Double fucking standards much?


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Shroomism]
    #24002535 - 01/11/17 09:57 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Someone's got to do it, and I find no fault in them doing so.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24002594 - 01/11/17 10:25 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Everyone wants to be the victim..

Whether or not it's right or wrong, if you're dumb enough to go swinging on someone that could mop the floor with you, chances are you're going to play the part of the mop sooner or later.  That's just common sense..


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Amanita86]
    #24002639 - 01/11/17 10:45 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

blah blah blah subduing is more hot anyway.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
    #24002644 - 01/11/17 10:46 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

You might could brush your hand against a boob by accident too. :smile:


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #24002679 - 01/11/17 11:04 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Subduing doesnt send the same message, if you punch someone in the face you're entitled to the same. You do someone a favor by putting them in their place when someone else might take their place away entirely. Thats a valuable lesson.

Not to mention anyone else they might harass, which is frankly more important than some troglodyte who goes around attacking people.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Amanita86]
    #24002738 - 01/11/17 11:30 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Tbh anytime something like this comes up and someone says "well they wanted equal rights" it makes you seem bitter for a demographic that represents half the population wanting rights equal to the other half. Not sure entirely why, I think it's cuz it usually comes from the same people that would argue tooth and nail that women already are equal to men and, if anything, it's men who are disadvantaged now. It's men who are the victims...


Times are changing though, thankfully. I've seen women assaulting men get taken way more seriously in recent years. Now just cuz a woman goes and smacks a man doesn't mean it's okay to "mop the floor with them." wouldn't be okay if it was a man either. Yes it's dumb. Doesn't mean it's okay. And it isn't okay that a woman may get a lesser punishment for assaulting a man than the other way around.

But let's be honest, most women that got into a fight with most men, both throwing their hardest punches, is most likely going to be more hurt. And I don't just mean from a physical build perspective. There is also fighting knowledge. Little boys wrestle and fight. Little girls play with dolls. Obviously this doesn't begin to account for nearly everyone but the point is it isn't a fair fight. Men are more likely to be exposed to fight culture even tho both are likely to be exposed to violence.


And I do think you're an asshole if you escalate violence unless you've been harassed and stalked or whatever and actually felt threatened. I had a good friend who had his buddy take a swing at him when they were drinking. He ducked and the punch missed. He probably could have just pushed his drunk buddy over but he instead (probably out of drunken reaction) punched his friend straight in the forehead and knocked him backwards off the porch.

Thankfully because drunk people are made of jelly friends buddy didn't get more than a knot on the head. My friend tho broke 3 bones in his hand.

He might not have been an asshole considering the circumstances but he was definitely a dumbass. Not at all saying that you shouldn't stick up for yourself but any self respecting adult should try to descalate a fight. Not "put an end to it" by knocking the other person out. Not unless it's a full on fight, there's a weapon, or you are actually hurt.



If you do get attacked by someone who thinks they're immune to consequences, be "a man" and call the police. If you want things to change then you need to be a part of the change. Violence doesn't often result in anyone looking more favourably on you.
Also not saying that alot of women with this mentality shouldn't learn a lesson... But being arrested for assault and battery is a pretty good start. Getting yourself arrested for trying to one-up her is just stupid.

I've seen fights of either sex that are needlessly started and escalated and I don't agree with that either. I wish all of everyone to stop being stupid violent assholes.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
    #24002748 - 01/11/17 11:36 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

You shouldn't be physically assaulting anyone period. And you shouldn't be physically assaulting anyone and not expect repercussions of it for both sexes. In some instances, I can understand why a woman would slap a man and get a bit out of control. But there was never a moment in my brain where I would think that if I started smacking that I wouldn't get smacked back in return. Especially said in situations where punching was involved. I can also understand if a man retaliated against a woman who got reaaaally out of control with it. 

Either way, both sexes were taught not to hit, kick, etc. And both sexes should know as children/teenagers or adults to not do it without repercussions. Excessive aggressors should be treated the same as excessive retaliation to the situation, IMO.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24002763 - 01/11/17 11:44 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Not at all saying that you shouldn't stick up for yourself but any self respecting adult should try to descalate a fight. Not "put an end to it" by knocking the other person out. Not unless it's a full on fight, there's a weapon, or you are actually hurt.







I agree with this wholeheartedly. Especially if it is very easy to subdue a chick just by holding her and screaming at her to calm down if she is getting escalated.





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There is also fighting knowledge. Little boys wrestle and fight. Little girls play with dolls.







This I do not agree with. If a woman is coming at you swinging then she knows what a fight means.

The woman who grew up staying with dolls and not fighting is probably not the woman who is swinging at you. Or if she is, she probably has a really good reason to do so and is probably still easily subdued as it is probably more of an emotional reaction from being hurt. But still. Not ok.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24002804 - 01/11/17 11:59 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Keep your hands to yourself, don't hurt anyone unless you have to, hyper-violent culture.






Kind of funny that if you raise a child to like superheroes, you actually encourage them to be more violent, which contradicts what superheroes are supposed to be about.

I was speaking to someone the other day about the whole alpha/beta thing which people are obsessed with, and it seems like we're never going to evolve past the point of having to idolize someone for taking control and being alpha, which seems kind of stupid, like we're just OK with being stuck as evolved apes, I like to think we can evolved further, to a point where we don't need to think in such animalistic terms, but I think perhaps this next step will involved some serious growth for the human race, and I know that many will probably never reach that point because in order for this behavior to come to fruition, we would have to put our pride on the back burner, I am rambling, fuck.


Anyway, I thought that feminism meant that women wanted to be treated the same as men, and not just for women's rights, but also so that women that abuse their vagina as a tool of manipulation, can't pull that shit anymore, which is why some girls say feminism will help guys as well.  I am not talking about femnazis though, that's a whole different thing which is in the "extreme" category for myself, but if women want to be treated equal, then they shouldn't abuse the fact that their women to get over on the system, you can't say you want to be treated equally in only a certain few things, if you want to be treated equally, then you have to be treated equally in everything.  I think when approaching feminism like this, that this will encourage women to not use their femininity to their advantage.

I used to know a girl that would slam herself into her spouse when arguing, like she was trying to get him to do something to her so she could then go cry a river to everyone else, she was an attention whore at best, and any girl that goes about being like that, is being abusive, but I have seen girls abuse the fact that they are women over and over again, of course I have seen guys be fucking assholes too, so please don't think I am taking sides, if anything I side with the pets who have to tolerate our bullshit.:lol:

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Shroomism]
    #24002898 - 01/12/17 12:45 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Women and men are taught in society even from the youngest ages that women can hit men and men can NEVER fight back or hit them back. It's OK for women to hit men without fearing repercussions, but the reverse is demonized by all of society.




Probs cuz then men would never get laid and the moms and dads wanted grand children..

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: zZZz]
    #24002958 - 01/12/17 01:29 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Shroomism]
    #24002973 - 01/12/17 01:43 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Anybody hear about the University of Oklahoma football player who dropped a female University of Oklahoma student?

The video was finally released like a month ago, even though the incident happened a while ago.



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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Niffla]
    #24003001 - 01/12/17 02:02 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

i love how people just go into establishments like they own the place, and then knock out people over piddling shit that's between them. loud mouths and overly aggressive jackanapes.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Niffla]
    #24003102 - 01/12/17 04:00 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

That was a pretty nasty punch.  Dude left out of there pretty quick like he knew he did something wrong, were there no legal repercussions over this?

@CC, there's another common denominator to these videos, care to guess what that is?  What do you notice about them that could be considered a 'theme'?


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    #24003113 - 01/12/17 04:14 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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That was a pretty nasty punch.  Dude left out of there pretty quick like he knew he did something wrong, were there no legal repercussions over this?






Plea deal. Slap on the wrist. No jail time. It was something like 100 hours community service or some shit.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Niffla]
    #24003138 - 01/12/17 04:33 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Nice.  That will be a good lesson for him to take with him into the NFL that if he keeps on top of his game the legal system won't dick with him. :thumbup:

Good thing he didn't have a dime bag of herb on him or he might have gotten in some serious trouble.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
    #24003376 - 01/12/17 08:30 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

These men that try to save aggressive women are not men at all.

It's probably more difficult to watch a man defend an aggressive women from  her victem. Mind your own shit, noone asked for you.

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: pachoo]
    #24003429 - 01/12/17 08:56 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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That was a pretty nasty punch.  Dude left out of there pretty quick like he knew he did something wrong, were there no legal repercussions over this?

@CC, there's another common denominator to these videos, care to guess what that is?  What do you notice about them that could be considered a 'theme'?




Nah. I haven't watched any of them because I've seen and been through enough violence when I was younger. But based on what I've been reading I'd say in every instance the female started it.


Not advising women get handled like delicate flowers because you should feel bad for them. If you get hit and it doesn't leave a mark and in turn hit your assailant back with enough force to knock teeth out or break bones then the law is going to come down alot harder on you. And that's not a sexism thing. It often happens in fights between men or between women too.

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There is also fighting knowledge. Little boys wrestle and fight. Little girls play with dolls.







This I do not agree with. If a woman is coming at you swinging then she knows what a fight means.

The woman who grew up staying with dolls and not fighting is probably not the woman who is swinging at you. Or if she is, she probably has a really good reason to do so and is probably still easily subdued as it is probably more of an emotional reaction from being hurt. But still. Not ok.





I dunno. I've seen very pissed off women start swinging and have obviously no idea what they're doing. Point is women are not exposed to the same level of physical contact and endurance that men often are. Dodgeball, football, ect. Living in a culture that feeds and thrives on violence it's really not uncommon for someone who has an idea of "standing up for themselves" to try and hit someone. The slap especially is something you don't need to be exposed to fighting to do.

EDIT: and I was more referencing it as a reason behind the rule. This was especially true 50-60 years ago. May not be AS true now but I'd still say in general men are exposed more to fighting and physical contact/exertion

Honestly I think the biggest problems in the world right now, and maybe throughout history, is that people have no idea what justice and injustice is. And it's really not hard to see why. Violence is glorified. Our authority figures lean against a back of violence to get whatever they want and make it sound justified. They claim people are responsible for injustice when they're not, when they just want an excuse to fight, they claim people have made a personal injustice against them or us when they were honestly minding their own business and smoking meth or whatever.

And they use that as an excuse to tase them and shit.


I suppose there is also a problem that alot of "adults" aren't necessarily grown up. But they learn that too from their superiors.

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Shroomism]
    #24003646 - 01/12/17 10:22 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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There has been demonstrated in numerous different social experiments for this exact same thing in parts all over the world. The results are almost always the same. People laugh or rubberneck when a woman is beating up a man.. but step in or beat the man if he fights back.




You're seriously joking, right? People were laughing in those social experiments because the man was in no real danger. I sincerely doubt people would have been pointing and laughing if the woman pulled out a baseball bat and started beating him with it.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Crystal G]
    #24003662 - 01/12/17 10:32 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)


Not exactly a punch but this was brutal! Yikes


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Crystal G]
    #24003668 - 01/12/17 10:34 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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You're seriously joking, right? People were laughing in those social experiments because the man was in no real danger. I sincerely doubt people would have been pointing and laughing if the woman pulled out a baseball bat and started beating him with it.




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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: DieCommie]
    #24003677 - 01/12/17 10:36 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Because I've seen the video and social experiment that he's talking about. Nobody would have been laughing if the woman pulled out a tire iron or something and put the man in any real danger.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Crystal G] * 5
    #24003686 - 01/12/17 10:39 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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Because I've seen the video and social experiment that he's talking about. Nobody would have been laughing if the woman pulled out a tire iron or something and put the man in any real danger.




That's  not very convincing.  You are claiming your opinion as fact.

You need to check your privilege.  Women get special consideration when it comes to violence.  In the rare times they actually get convicted, they get lighter sentences than men for the same crime.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: DieCommie]
    #24003729 - 01/12/17 10:59 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

People that say "check your privilege" make me want to do violence.


Women aren't treated as seriously when assaulting men because they are still seen as the weaker sex. Checking privileges... I dunno, I personally don't like not being taken seriously because I'm viewed as inferior.

More than one man (boy really) ended up geing "handled like a puppy" because he underestimated me. Gender bias hurts everyone. Gender roles hurt everyone. But there is still nuggets of truth to them that make them so difficult to argue. Men are built better for combat, they're less likely to be hurt and more likely to hurt someone else. So even today, when girls aren't being raised as delicate flowers, the law isn't entirely incorrect for judging a womans punch different than a mans.


And as I said before the level of force used is judged differently regardless of sex. I could go over and slap Crystal (you know I wouldn't G, just an example :heart:) and she in turn went all She Hulk and punched me so hard I fall over backwards and my head rebounds off a concrete barrier the law would fairly charge us both but it would fairly make her punishment worse because she actually hurt me.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 2
    #24003740 - 01/12/17 11:02 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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People that say "check your privilege" make me want to do violence.





There is that privilege again...

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the law isn't entirely incorrect for judging a womans punch different than a mans.


And as I said before the level of force used is judged differently regardless of sex.




Is consistency something that is important and should be valued in cases of law and order?  How about in posting opinions?


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24003744 - 01/12/17 11:02 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Im aware it doesn't always work out like that though, pretty much every scenario is a little different and what's "fair" varies by alot. Like if Crystal were trying to steal my kitten I'd be defending my property and likely wouldn't get anything.

Or if I were stalking Crystal and she had more reason than a slap on the cheek to feel threatened courts would probably rule more against me that her.


In fair cases with mildly intelligent judges at least...


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: DieCommie]
    #24003747 - 01/12/17 11:03 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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People that say "check your privilege" make me want to do violence.





There is that privilege again...




Are you a white cis male?

Have YOU checked your privilege recently?


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    #24003755 - 01/12/17 11:05 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Yes I have.  I would appreciate it if you and Crystal G did the same.  Your bias is disgusting and is coming from a place of high privilege.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: DieCommie]
    #24003779 - 01/12/17 11:13 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Consistency is something that should be strove toward but life has too many variables and not taking the specific circumstances into account would make many of our legal rulings unfair.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: DieCommie]
    #24003789 - 01/12/17 11:17 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Dudes who strike chicks are way more likely to commit other acts of violence, particularly murders.  Best to keep that in check.

And never ever ever try to break up that shit up yourself, you wont be thanked.


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    #24003791 - 01/12/17 11:17 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Intent is all that matters, there is no difference between a woman or man attacking someone, the aggressor deserves no special protection for being a black lesbian with asthma. Those women who attack men while hiding behind their gender are cowards and deserve a hard manly beating.

If you dont want a grown man punching you in the face, back the fuck off :cookiemonster:

Ive never instigated violence despite living around it most of my life, so I have no sympathy for fools who fly off the handle without cause.


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    #24003818 - 01/12/17 11:32 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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I'm a big man, 6'5 275lbs and athletic






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    #24003824 - 01/12/17 11:34 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Lucis]
    #24003848 - 01/12/17 11:44 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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Keep your hands to yourself, don't hurt anyone unless you have to, hyper-violent culture.






Kind of funny that if you raise a child to like superheroes, you actually encourage them to be more violent, which contradicts what superheroes are supposed to be about.

I was speaking to someone the other day about the whole alpha/beta thing which people are obsessed with, and it seems like we're never going to evolve past the point of having to idolize someone for taking control and being alpha, which seems kind of stupid, like we're just OK with being stuck as evolved apes, I like to think we can evolved further, to a point where we don't need to think in such animalistic terms, but I think perhaps this next step will involved some serious growth for the human race, and I know that many will probably never reach that point because in order for this behavior to come to fruition, we would have to put our pride on the back burner, I am rambling, fuck.


Anyway, I thought that feminism meant that women wanted to be treated the same as men, and not just for women's rights, but also so that women that abuse their vagina as a tool of manipulation, can't pull that shit anymore, which is why some girls say feminism will help guys as well.  I am not talking about femnazis though, that's a whole different thing which is in the "extreme" category for myself, but if women want to be treated equal, then they shouldn't abuse the fact that their women to get over on the system, you can't say you want to be treated equally in only a certain few things, if you want to be treated equally, then you have to be treated equally in everything.  I think when approaching feminism like this, that this will encourage women to not use their femininity to their advantage.

I used to know a girl that would slam herself into her spouse when arguing, like she was trying to get him to do something to her so she could then go cry a river to everyone else, she was an attention whore at best, and any girl that goes about being like that, is being abusive, but I have seen girls abuse the fact that they are women over and over again, of course I have seen guys be fucking assholes too, so please don't think I am taking sides, if anything I side with the pets who have to tolerate our bullshit.:lol:

Clearly man and woman need to keep the proper channels of communication open.




I know what you mean here. It's like all this talk of "the pussification of men" and so on is such a lower form of mentality/speak. We can grow beyond "how a man or woman is supposed to act/be like" and progress the human race to higher forms of intelligence/ways of being.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24003861 - 01/12/17 11:49 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

When I was in school the punishment for fighting was 10 days suspension for both parties, no matter what happened or who started it.

That's not fair.
If someone hits you you should be able to hit them back. But IME alot of people are just looking for an excuse to fuck someone up. And that's a problem.
I do get into moods where I wish someone would give me an excuse to hit them. But I wouldn't antagonize them into it. I've seen alot of people do that too.


It's so hard to make up rules in society when everyone is pretty well fucked up in one way or another. I'd rather see us teach people that violence isn't often needed, not for your honor, but kids get taught the opposite. I'd rather be in a society that isn't addicted to stress and drama and emotion. That's the actual problem.

What is fair is letting people chill the fuck out and be in control of their lives and not have one business person or another breathing down their necks. What's fair is teaching people what matters, how to have self-respect, to be honorable, and then allowing them to do it.



We should continue to ignore that and blame society for being cucks and liberals and privileged and racist and ignorant. We should blame people for being products of our culture while also becoming products of our own.

For real, I'm pretty well sure that if the law were involved more often and people weren't so worried about their pride and shit, that women regularly got charged for assault (and not decked) when they hit someone, man or woman, I can almost guarantee you the number of self-entitled women that think they can just get away with hitting someone for no reason would go down.


But no, we're definitely better off just hitting them back. That's how society changes.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: DieCommie]
    #24003967 - 01/12/17 12:41 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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That's  not very convincing.  You are claiming your opinion as fact.




Apparently you don't know the definition of an "opinion." An opinion is saying something like "I prefer beef over chicken" or "Pink is a nicer color than grey."

Saying something that is factual like "Eating seaweed is better for you than drinking chlorine" or "If you fall off a roof you might break your bones, and that would be painful" is not an opinion, it is a statement. It is a matter of fact.

And reporting something that you observed like "that girl crossed the road four minutes ago" or "people are laughing at that comedian because he made a funny joke about prison" is a statement of observation, not an opinion.

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You need to check your privilege.  Women get special consideration when it comes to violence.  In the rare times they actually get convicted, they get lighter sentences than men for the same crime.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html




Men who commit murders are much more likely to get 2nd degree murder convictions, whereas women who commit murder on the other hand are rarely given 2nd degree murder convictions and are more often charged with 1st degree murder, because biology is often used to explain uncontrollable and erratic male behavior like temper tantrums.

FYI you sound really stupid saying checking your privilege. :bored:


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Crystal G]
    #24003998 - 01/12/17 12:50 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

I thought this "check your privilege guy" was trolling from the get go :shrug:


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Crystal G]
    #24004258 - 01/12/17 02:17 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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FYI you sound really stupid saying checking your privilege. :bored:




Everyone does, its the slogan of privileged puffs when they want to be preachy.

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 2
    #24006015 - 01/13/17 12:36 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Maybe these weaker and more frail women shouldn't fly off the handle because someone called them a name and get physical against someone bigger, stronger and more "exposed to violence"...:shrug:

You know how you girls are when you get in someones face and start slapping and yapping, crowding a person and getting all in their 'personal bubble'..

Whether right or wrong, you know what is going to eventually happen.  I'm not saying it's right.  If you were my girlfriend or daughter I'd tell you the same thing.  You just can't do that.  It's ok to have someone call you a name and get "punked" by that person's friends and walk away.. no big deal.

But in this world, and how it is...it's fact...that someone is going to eventually lay you out if you behave like some of these girls are.  If it never reaches that point, then all fights are avoided, period.

Control your own behavior and 90% of fights are avoided.  You win every fight that comes along, if you don't get into it in the first place.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Amanita86]
    #24006046 - 01/13/17 01:07 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Funny this topic came up, I was in a similar situation not long ago. Me and the ol lady were fighting and she thought she could pop me in the face.

I could've smacked her back, but I didnt.

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #24006054 - 01/13/17 01:13 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

What got that argument going?  (Obviously you don't have to say if you don't want to, just curious)


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Amanita86]
    #24006060 - 01/13/17 01:18 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Honestly,  I haven't the slightest clue :lol: Something petty I imagine, but she was on a kpin And those always make her irritable


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #24006079 - 01/13/17 01:37 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Funny this topic came up, I was in a similar situation not long ago. Me and the ol lady were fighting and she thought she could pop me in the face.

I could've smacked her back, but I didnt.

I bent her over my knee and spanked her. She thanked me for it.



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    #24006533 - 01/13/17 08:31 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Funny this topic came up, I was in a similar situation not long ago. Me and the ol lady were fighting and she thought she could pop me in the face.

I could've smacked her back, but I didnt.

I bent her over my knee and spanked her. She thanked me for it.




:happyclaps:

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Maybe these weaker and more frail women shouldn't fly off the handle because someone called them a name and get physical against someone bigger, stronger and more "exposed to violence"...:shrug:

You know how you girls are when you get in someones face and start slapping and yapping, crowding a person and getting all in their 'personal bubble'..





I've never done that. I've also known women my whole life who have never done that. I have gotten in peoples bubbles before but not since I was a teenager and all hopped up on the hormonal drugs teenagers are... As well as actual drugs...

The women you are describing have what I call little dog syndrome. They feel like they have to compensate for being smaller by being louder and more aggressive. I personally have no problem with them learning the hard way. All I'm saying is in alot of scenarios you don't actually have to punch them.

Honestly spanking them when they're acting like a child sounds very beneficial. For the little dog and the big dog.


And how those little dog women are acting... It's a problem all across society right now and I see it in men too. They didn't have strong parental figures. Adults of this generation are encouraged to act like children either from their peers or their parents. It's a problem for sure. And I don't think more violence is the solution.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24006539 - 01/13/17 08:35 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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FYI you sound really stupid saying checking your privilege. :bored:




Everyone does, its the slogan of privileged puffs when they want to be preachy.

I think he was being sarcastic




He was saying it out of either a serious opinion or to make someone mad. And based on the little he's said I'd think it's a little of both.
Or perhaps he's angry at a completely irrelevant topic.

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Amanita86]
    #24006965 - 01/13/17 11:53 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Control your own behavior and 90% of fights are avoided.  You win every fight that comes along, if you don't get into it in the first place.




I'm wondering if Ive bluffed and blustered my way out of too many fights for too long now :lol:, its been almost ten years since Ive taken a punch, might be getting soft. It doesnt help that I lost the last one, had a broken nose, chipped teeth, two black eyes etc. If I can go the rest of my life without another fight that would be great, but I might get into full contact sparring to keep myself limber.

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24006971 - 01/13/17 11:57 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Sparing isnt good. Lots of head injuries apparently. Even with gear, the padding actually rattles your brain more.


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    #24006978 - 01/13/17 12:00 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Yeah I was also considering getting back into wrestling to avoid injuries, but being able to take a punch is really important, and you can take someone out with striking in few seconds, or disable them while you make away.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24007102 - 01/13/17 12:49 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I'm sure someone could argue but I think Aikido is the best martial arts for quickly disabling a person and not running the risk of accidentally murdering them.

Alot of martial arts teaches you how to kill a person with your bare hands when I think about it :lol:
Aikido does too but it has a strong focus on disabling without actually causing alot of damage. I spoke to an instructor that knew some crazy shit about nerves and energy flow in the body that said the 2nd degree of the black belt focuses on learning to heal the body. Shit is really cool :thumbup:


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    #24007113 - 01/13/17 12:53 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

You will get hurt trying to 'disable' someone with some retarded akido move.


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    #24007175 - 01/13/17 01:28 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Most people will get hurt using any martial arts techniques they don't understand.


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    #24007215 - 01/13/17 01:51 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

A single simple punch to the face kills people on a daily basis. Its usually when they fall and hit their head on the ground that causes a deadly brain hemmorage.

Imo you should never punch anyone, especially a woman. If a woman was beating the shit out of me I'd never hit back, it's too risky

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    #24007252 - 01/13/17 02:00 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Have y'all seen this one?

http://m.metronews.ca/#/article/news/winnipeg/2016/11/01/winnipeg-halloween-fight-video-goes-viral.html




Lmao this is two hours from me, fucking winnipeg.

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    #24007332 - 01/13/17 02:23 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Akido is fake. People get hurt because its fake. There are a ton of fake teachers like that out the.
I just had one telling me how bjj is stupid because, 'what if there are multiple attackers' your probably fucked, really
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    #24007341 - 01/13/17 02:26 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

One can feasibly take two people if things go well, past that you're pretty much fucked regardless

Idk what I'll study, it will probably come down to whats available in my area at different points in time when I happen not to be traveling


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    #24007359 - 01/13/17 02:34 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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I don't support male violence toward woman.

Watch this for the lulz.





You just get off on it :awesomenod:

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    #24007416 - 01/13/17 02:47 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #24007628 - 01/13/17 03:57 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Akido is fake. People get hurt because its fake. There are a ton of fake teachers like that out the.
I just had one telling me how bjj is stupid because, 'what if there are multiple attackers' your probably fucked, really
And 'you just learn not to get taken down'very difficult




I actually got to talk with him cuz of a friend he helped out. Said friend had horrible back problems. Usually when it acted up he'd be in bed for 3 days. It happened to be acting up then and he could not sit straight, he couldn't walk without limping, he sat with his head in his hands wincing as we waited for this Aikido instructor.

I didn't go back with them but my friend told me he found the nerve responsible for his pain in minutes, without even touching his back, and "massaged" it out, without really massaging and told my friend to relax for a bit before getting up. He came and talked to me for a little bit and went and got my friend. He wasn't limping. He wasn't hunched. He wasn't wincy. He looked like he didn't hurt at all. He said he didn't hurt at all.

So that's why I have respect for the art. But honestly almost everything I know about it is from that experience and media. That instructor ended up leaving for India to study with monks.


All that mess being said I've heard MMA fighters (that I've met) say that boxing/kick boxing and grappling arts are the best for real fights. And I can see why. But from what I have seen and 'studied' from documentaries and shit on the discovery channel I don't think you could be a black belt in ANY traditional martial art and not be able to handle yourself in a fight with an untrained opponent.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #24007668 - 01/13/17 04:12 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Akido is fake. People get hurt because its fake. There are a ton of fake teachers like that out the.
I just had one telling me how bjj is stupid because, 'what if there are multiple attackers' your probably fucked, really
And 'you just learn not to get taken down'very difficult




I mean martial arts for self defense reasons in this day and age is kinda bullshit as a whole.  There is no honor in fighting anymore, if there ever was, and mass produced weapons have made such things irrelevant.


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    #24007771 - 01/13/17 04:51 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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specialpeopleclub said:
Akido is fake. People get hurt because its fake. There are a ton of fake teachers like that out the.
I just had one telling me how bjj is stupid because, 'what if there are multiple attackers' your probably fucked, really
And 'you just learn not to get taken down'very difficult




I mean martial arts for self defense reasons in this day and age is kinda bullshit as a whole.  There is no honor in fighting anymore, if there ever was, and mass produced weapons have made such things irrelevant.




I disagree, someone attacked me and I dropped him with skills learnt kick boxing, no weapons were involved and the situation was resolved with minimal harm. Its useless on a battlefield, but useful when you're walking home late at night.


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Akido is fake. People get hurt because its fake. There are a ton of fake teachers like that out the.
I just had one telling me how bjj is stupid because, 'what if there are multiple attackers' your probably fucked, really
And 'you just learn not to get taken down'very difficult




I mean martial arts for self defense reasons in this day and age is kinda bullshit as a whole.  There is no honor in fighting anymore, if there ever was, and mass produced weapons have made such things irrelevant.




I disagree, someone attacked me and I dropped him with skills learnt kick boxing, no weapons were involved and the situation was resolved with minimal harm. Its useless on a battlefield, but useful when you're walking home late at night.




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    #24007792 - 01/13/17 05:02 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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    #24007815 - 01/13/17 05:11 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Im pretty soft :lol:


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #24008176 - 01/13/17 07:59 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

You know what's really useful?  Being able to see your way out of a potential fight situation before anyone's eyes get focused on you.  In a pinch, being able to talk your way out.  Don't hang out with loud mouth friends.

Akido is nice, if someone has a knife and are strictly relying on it but everyone knows that in the thick of shit gross motor skills go to zero.  All that fancy shit goes out the window.  A background in Okinawin based fighting with a pinch of bjj or other grappling for when you end up on the ground is practical.  It cuts the fat out of every move.  It's "dirty" and not for the squeamish but when someone's eyes roll over white and they're focused on you for whatever reason are you really going to feel bad for ceasing their aggression in a way that might leave them hobbled for a few months etc?

That's why you avoid fights, or stoking the fire at all costs.  There is no tap out rule outside of a dojo.. and exercising your pride isn't worth becoming a cripple.


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    #24008622 - 01/14/17 01:06 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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I think a good question is, were women always so emboldened to attack men like they do today?

My guess is no, with the strict domestic abuse laws that mostly favor women and with the constant marketing of women being physical and sexual abuse victims, I think it has given many women the mindset that they can attack men with impunity.




This simply isn't true. It used to be perfectly socially acceptable for a woman to slap a man in the face, especially if he was getting fresh with her or sexually harassing her.

Personally, I think they need to bring that custom back. :hehehe:


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    #24008777 - 01/14/17 03:04 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

As long as we can go back to backhanding women and colored people when they get uppity







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    #24009183 - 01/14/17 08:53 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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I think a good question is, were women always so emboldened to attack men like they do today?

My guess is no, with the strict domestic abuse laws that mostly favor women and with the constant marketing of women being physical and sexual abuse victims, I think it has given many women the mindset that they can attack men with impunity.




This simply isn't true. It used to be perfectly socially acceptable for a woman to slap a man in the face, especially if he was getting fresh with her or sexually harassing her.

Personally, I think they need to bring that custom back. :hehehe:




Yeah, it was also acceptable to give her a black eye in retaliation and not suffer any legal or social ramifications, "I think they need to bring that custom back".

My point still stands, women are now more emboldened than ever before to hit a man because they know the law and policies are on their side.


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    #24009211 - 01/14/17 09:04 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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    #24009215 - 01/14/17 09:05 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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My point still stands, women are now more emboldened than ever before to hit a man because they know the law and policies are on their side.





Changing roles. Nowadays its often the man being the bitch, so the bitchslap has his name on it :bitchslap:





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    #24009227 - 01/14/17 09:10 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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My point still stands, women are now more emboldened than ever before to hit a man because they know the law and policies are on their side.





Changing roles. Nowadays its often the man being the bitch, so the bitchslap has his name on it :bitchslap:




Without a doubt, Western culture has done a great job feminizing this new generation of males.


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    #24009251 - 01/14/17 09:20 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Oh god what a terrible thing.

They're not forced to have excessive bravado that normally gets them hurt or killed trying to proof how tuff they are. They're not trained to be cold killing machines from the time they're 7. They're allowed to have emotions and talk about them. They can cook and care for people and admit they like cute things.

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    #24009267 - 01/14/17 09:28 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Oh god what a terrible thing.

They're not forced to have excessive bravado that normally gets them hurt or killed trying to proof how tuff they are. They're not trained to be cold killing machines from the time they're 7. They're allowed to have emotions and talk about them. They can cook and care for people and admit they like cute things.

The horror. The horror.




It is horrible when you see a male behaving like a little girl because he's been taught to reject his natural masculine traits given to him by nature.

He has been taught that his masculine side is bad and it's shameful to bring it out, he been taught that there's little to no difference between males and females.

Myself and many other men of my generation find the whole thing pathetic, seeing married men asking for permission from their wives to even step out of the house for a few hours.


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    #24009279 - 01/14/17 09:33 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

What if a man acts like a big girl, is that OK?





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    #24009297 - 01/14/17 09:40 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

As a victem of the emasculation culture, its disgusting. Its more then liking cute that things. its about people trying to suppressed natural instincts the men used to create the world and leaving a generation of men confused and without purpose.
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    #24009309 - 01/14/17 09:46 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

specialpeopleclub, you have a platform on the Shroomery to address the younger generation. Make threads that deal with sensible masculinity. People will chime in and it will be useful.

I call to memory my Shaving Thread that has been inspiring Shroomerites for almost 8 years now.

Teach about Manhood, the part that matters. The younger generation will thank you, if what you teach holds objective merit.

Dont describe yourself as a victim of emasculization culture, get out of that role and teach what it TRULY means to be a man.

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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: qman]
    #24009354 - 01/14/17 10:03 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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It is horrible when you see a male behaving like a little girl because he's been taught to reject his natural masculine traits given to him by nature.

He has been taught that his masculine side is bad and it's shameful to bring it out, he been taught that there's little to no difference between males and females.

Myself and many other men of my generation find the whole thing pathetic, seeing married men asking for permission from their wives to even step out of the house for a few hours.




You don't think that hyper-masculinity can be toxic or damaging to the human psyche?

I'll give an example of toxic masculinity; a father who is so afraid of turning his son into a "pussy" that he never holds him or hugs him or says "I love you" to him as a child, he even hits him periodically whenever he cries to "toughen him up." He discourages his son from engaging in anything musical or artistic, anything expressive, especially poetry and dance because that stuff's "for girls and faggots" and only bonds with him by exposing him to aggressive or domineering activities like guns or boxing.

What do you think happens to a kid who grows up with this type of father as a role model?

There's nothing wrong with healthy masculinity, right. The problem becomes when you're too far extreme of one thing with no connection whatsoever to the other side. Ideally a well-rounded person would be in touch with both their feminine and masculine sides. Somebody who leans too far one way or the other is going to be closed off from the nurturing or strengthening aspects that makes a person whole.

I mean, let's face it. Extreme hypermasculinity is the sort of thing that leads to rape, violence, and wars. It's not necessarily always a good thing or healthy for the psyche.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: qman]
    #24009359 - 01/14/17 10:05 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

What you are calling emasculation and femiziation I think is being confused with a real femization movement. The one that encourages men to be able to be care givers and like cute things.

The negativity you see, the "pussification" is effecting culture as a whole. And has been for the last 30 years or so. Coincidentally this comes with the rise of the internet and virtual technology. Children don't have solid role models. Children grow up being entertained by TV and the internet and other media. And the rise of working hours of both parents also coincides with this. I don't think all the people of weak character around these days happened because people encouraged them to get in touch with their feminine side. It happened because we stopped giving a shit about each other in the real world. One could say we stopped giving a shit about the real world in general.


And I think that's partly the reason why so many people have "little dog syndrome". They don't know how to behave. They don't know how to stand up for themselves. They don't know how to act in difficult social situations. Aside from how people in TV and movies and the internet act...
I see alot of videos in the thread, in the OP, as part of the problem. People don't know how to critically think anymore. ...if they ever did...


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    #24009402 - 01/14/17 10:20 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Th isnt masculinity. A real man isnt an abusive father. As I said, women don't even understand what its like to be a man. The rape culture this g came up because women are actually so off thy think men think rape is manly.


We don't have roll models, the media is so toxic. its making women into bitches, men into pussies, and everyone is hysteric over news that has nothing to do with them

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    #24009409 - 01/14/17 10:23 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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    #24009416 - 01/14/17 10:25 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Hyper aggression is often viewed as masculine yes.

Rape is a hyper aggressive action.


Don't think anyone this day and age, save a few that are extremists, think that hyper aggression is what "a man" is.


Without the degeneration I think there still might not be a balance between femininity and masculinity but that's relatively normal. When the scales have tipped one way for so long and they start to tip back it isn't unusual to go over board. But sooner or later they balance out.
I dunno if we can achieve balance without a full societal overhaul though. So many things have to change, so many systems are outdated, soon alot of them are going to be irrelevant and obsolete. I sadly don't see many of our leaders caring enough to have it change any time soon :undecided:


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    #24009423 - 01/14/17 10:27 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Th isnt masculinity. A real man isnt an abusive father.




When people think of a "real man," they typically don't think of a nurturing or kind father either.

In any case, a lot of people believe it's perfectly acceptable to be physically rough with young boys or bully them around a little bit to make them stronger. Even if that isn't what makes somebody a real man, a lot of people have this misconception that you need to toughen boys up that way.


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    #24009436 - 01/14/17 10:31 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Femininity and masculinity were always separate. Being hyper aggressive shows a lack of controll, which is not a masculine trait. Masculinity could be more closely related to stoicism in the west.

Sometimes hyper aggression is what's cukteraly expected. You will get more sector killing another tribe in many tribal cultures. We are more morally wise then them, though

Fathers aren't there to be nurturing or kind. An aloof somewhamean fate is much better tn these 'friend' parents. You can't both we a friend as above and equal to you, so a parent can't be a friend.


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    #24009439 - 01/14/17 10:32 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Theres a balance, as in all things society never seems to find that balance as a rule


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    #24009444 - 01/14/17 10:34 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Oh god what a terrible thing.

They're not forced to have excessive bravado that normally gets them hurt or killed trying to proof how tuff they are. They're not trained to be cold killing machines from the time they're 7. They're allowed to have emotions and talk about them. They can cook and care for people and admit they like cute things.

The horror. The horror.




It is horrible when you see a male behaving like a little girl because he's been taught to reject his natural masculine traits given to him by nature.

He has been taught that his masculine side is bad and it's shameful to bring it out, he been taught that there's little to no difference between males and females.

Myself and many other men of my generation find the whole thing pathetic, seeing married men asking for permission from their wives to even step out of the house for a few hours.



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here we go with this shit again...:scat: Don't get married if you have to be that way with a mate.:shrug:
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As a victem of the emasculation culture, its disgusting. Its more then liking cute that things. its about people trying to suppressed natural instincts the men used to create the world and leaving a generation of men confused and without purpose.
Women really understand men, and I haven't seen them try



:archiebunker: *SIGH*:scat:

Progress in human nature and the progression of intelligence beyond base human emotions such as anger is not a bad thing. All this "emasculation/pussification of the male" bullshit is really boring. :rolleyes: The old ways of doing things/being are changing and dying out. Change is inevitable and necessary in order to progress.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Crystal G]
    #24009457 - 01/14/17 10:38 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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When people think of a "real man," they typically don't think of a nurturing or kind father either.






When I think Real Man I think Silverback Gorilla. Someone who is nurturing, caring, decisive but is willing to whip open a can of whoopass if there is a serious threat, not as much to his authority as to the family group he protects.




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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #24009471 - 01/14/17 10:44 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Oh god what a terrible thing.

They're not forced to have excessive bravado that normally gets them hurt or killed trying to proof how tuff they are. They're not trained to be cold killing machines from the time they're 7. They're allowed to have emotions and talk about them. They can cook and care for people and admit they like cute things.

The horror. The horror.




It is horrible when you see a male behaving like a little girl because he's been taught to reject his natural masculine traits given to him by nature.

He has been taught that his masculine side is bad and it's shameful to bring it out, he been taught that there's little to no difference between males and females.

Myself and many other men of my generation find the whole thing pathetic, seeing married men asking for permission from their wives to even step out of the house for a few hours.



:archiebunker:

here we go with this shit again...:scat: Don't get married if you have to be that way with a mate.:shrug:





The worst part is when the complain about it, if they're so weak maybe they should just accept it or move on, why bitch about it to people like me.  :lol:


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #24009473 - 01/14/17 10:44 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Femininity and masculinity were always separate. Being hyper aggressive shows a lack of controll, which is not a masculine trait. Masculinity could be more closely related to stoicism in the west.




Sounds to me that you're simply redefining what "masculinity" is to suit your worldview.

Masculinity means a lot of things, but hyper-aggression is most definitely also a masculine trait. I mean, it isn't a feminine trait, that's for sure.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Crystal G]
    #24009477 - 01/14/17 10:47 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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It is horrible when you see a male behaving like a little girl because he's been taught to reject his natural masculine traits given to him by nature.

He has been taught that his masculine side is bad and it's shameful to bring it out, he been taught that there's little to no difference between males and females.

Myself and many other men of my generation find the whole thing pathetic, seeing married men asking for permission from their wives to even step out of the house for a few hours.




You don't think that hyper-masculinity can be toxic or damaging to the human psyche?

I'll give an example of toxic masculinity; a father who is so afraid of turning his son into a "pussy" that he never holds him or hugs him or says "I love you" to him as a child, he even hits him periodically whenever he cries to "toughen him up." He discourages his son from engaging in anything musical or artistic, anything expressive, especially poetry and dance because that stuff's "for girls and faggots" and only bonds with him by exposing him to aggressive or domineering activities like guns or boxing.

What do you think happens to a kid who grows up with this type of father as a role model?

There's nothing wrong with healthy masculinity, right. The problem becomes when you're too far extreme of one thing with no connection whatsoever to the other side. Ideally a well-rounded person would be in touch with both their feminine and masculine sides. Somebody who leans too far one way or the other is going to be closed off from the nurturing or strengthening aspects that makes a person whole.

I mean, let's face it. Extreme hypermasculinity is the sort of thing that leads to rape, violence, and wars. It's not necessarily always a good thing or healthy for the psyche.




No one is calling for "extreme hypermasculinity", we are just asking for males to stop acting like sensitive little pussies all the time.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #24009479 - 01/14/17 10:47 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Things really aren't changing much, just the way we think about them and the amounof screens.

You don't know what masculinities of you think its al about aggression and being emotional.

The pic Asante just put up is masculine. Being a  lewder is very masculine. Being 'nurturing' is not. Its normal for females to nurture well we go get food or do a job

I literally go walk around t store at night, slowly shopping, as its t most mild way to deal with the instinct to go out of my area and get food. Of course, there is no killing of an animal when I go out. Its a feminized, and very sad form of hunting.

We can talk about ideal or extremes though. We aren't talking about men not learning to rape when we complain about feminized kids, just like we aren't saying women need to be complete passive slaves that barely speak to be feminine.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #24009486 - 01/14/17 10:50 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

My father was an excellent role model. He was very masculine and had his own manly man traits, but he was also very kind and caring. IMO a man should be able to be kind without being a pushover. I see the inability to be kind as a character flaw as well.


He made harsh jokes and talked about some rough things, put us in... "adventurous" situations and I love him all the more for it. He raised my older brother well. After, that is, they stopped trying to push hyper masculine traits on to him. They pushed him really hard into sports and they told him to go on the field and try to kill people (football, ofc) but after he nearly got expelled and ended up in legal trouble my parents focused on actually caring for him. And the ultimate care they gave him was helping him get a job and then kicking him out when he fucked up again.


Today he owns his own business, is married to a smart caring woman that also has her own business, and is one of the most successful people I know. He is a role model to me even still today. My father is as well. I can see my brother took what he was given and applied it, invested it, and it has paid off. He's friends with everyone, nice to everyone, but I'm pretty sure if he ever had the need to he could kill someone with his bare hands.



Now all this being said I do find that alot of strong male role models are a bit aloof. I dunno if that's what makes them successful or if they are that way because they are independent and have their own personal investments and having personal goals is a lead by example kinda thing or what... My dad always had some sort of project or another he was working on, construction of some sort normally, and we all learned alot from it. It meant we didn't often get alot of the attention we may have needed but we learned what it was like to have personal occupation and to be self-reliant.


Not sure if I said what I wanted to say here. Point is supposed to be that I don't think fathers aren't supposed to be nurturing or kind. I think they're just supposed to nurture in a different way. And "friend" parents are the worst. The most fucked up people I have ever seen that actually had parents had these friend parents.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: qman]
    #24009586 - 01/14/17 11:26 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Qman, all your posts in this thread are very accurate and I agree. 

Everything is well said and speaks my mind well

It's rare I meet a real man these days and often I meet a woman who demonizes such a concept.

And qman didn't say anything about real men not being kind or nurturing cookie


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Masked]
    #24009641 - 01/14/17 11:55 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

That whole "real man" BS is changing and some people don't like it. But it has to change in order for the human race to progress. I think a balance of both "manly" and nurturing/emotional ways can be done. All this BS about "how a man and woman are supposed to act/be" needs an overhaul anyway. (see, I used a "manly" mechanical term there)


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #24009741 - 01/14/17 12:45 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Men didn't evolve to nurture.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Crystal G]
    #24009746 - 01/14/17 12:48 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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You need to check your privilege.  Women get special consideration when it comes to violence.  In the rare times they actually get convicted, they get lighter sentences than men for the same crime.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html




Men who commit murders are much more likely to get 2nd degree murder convictions, whereas women who commit murder on the other hand are rarely given 2nd degree murder convictions and are more often charged with 1st degree murder, because biology is often used to explain uncontrollable and erratic male behavior like temper tantrums.

FYI you sound really stupid saying checking your privilege. :bored:




but women are more likely to be acquitted because of PMS or temporary insanity or
what ever other women's 'issues' they have when they go on a killing rampage


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #24009916 - 01/14/17 02:25 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Qman, all your posts in this thread are very accurate and I agree. 

Everything is well said and speaks my mind well

It's rare I meet a real man these days and often I meet a woman who demonizes such a concept.

And qman didn't say anything about real men not being kind or nurturing cookie




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Femininity and masculinity were always separate. Being hyper aggressive shows a lack of controll, which is not a masculine trait. Masculinity could be more closely related to stoicism in the west.

Sometimes hyper aggression is what's cukteraly expected. You will get more sector killing another tribe in many tribal cultures. We are more morally wise then them, though

Fathers aren't there to be nurturing or kind. An aloof somewhamean fate is much better tn these 'friend' parents. You can't both we a friend as above and equal to you, so a parent can't be a friend.





I don't think anyone will agree on a man should be. The very concept that people should be anything other than kind, considerate, caring, independent, and self-reliable is a fallacy. Everyone is a little different. What works for me might not work for you and what works for qman might not work for you.

I say rejecting the ideas of what "a man" is and "a woman" is and instead letting people embrace and balance their femininity and masculinity is alot healthier than preaching ideals.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24010095 - 01/14/17 03:37 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Qman, all your posts in this thread are very accurate and I agree. 

Everything is well said and speaks my mind well

It's rare I meet a real man these days and often I meet a woman who demonizes such a concept.

And qman didn't say anything about real men not being kind or nurturing cookie




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Femininity and masculinity were always separate. Being hyper aggressive shows a lack of controll, which is not a masculine trait. Masculinity could be more closely related to stoicism in the west.

Sometimes hyper aggression is what's cukteraly expected. You will get more sector killing another tribe in many tribal cultures. We are more morally wise then them, though

Fathers aren't there to be nurturing or kind. An aloof somewhamean fate is much better tn these 'friend' parents. You can't both we a friend as above and equal to you, so a parent can't be a friend.





I don't think anyone will agree on a man should be. The very concept that people should be anything other than kind, considerate, caring, independent, and self-reliable is a fallacy. Everyone is a little different. What works for me might not work for you and what works for qman might not work for you.

I say rejecting the ideas of what "a man" is and "a woman" is and instead letting people embrace and balance their femininity and masculinity is alot healthier than preaching ideals.



Exactly! :grin:


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #24010099 - 01/14/17 03:39 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Men didn't evolve to nurture.



Everyone should evolve, and also nurture what is worth nurturing, but I guess that could be considered subjective to the person/culture.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24010463 - 01/14/17 06:25 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Masked said:
Qman, all your posts in this thread are very accurate and I agree. 

Everything is well said and speaks my mind well

It's rare I meet a real man these days and often I meet a woman who demonizes such a concept.

And qman didn't say anything about real men not being kind or nurturing cookie




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specialpeopleclub said:
Femininity and masculinity were always separate. Being hyper aggressive shows a lack of controll, which is not a masculine trait. Masculinity could be more closely related to stoicism in the west.

Sometimes hyper aggression is what's cukteraly expected. You will get more sector killing another tribe in many tribal cultures. We are more morally wise then them, though

Fathers aren't there to be nurturing or kind. An aloof somewhamean fate is much better tn these 'friend' parents. You can't both we a friend as above and equal to you, so a parent can't be a friend.





I don't think anyone will agree on a man should be. The very concept that people should be anything other than kind, considerate, caring, independent, and self-reliable is a fallacy. Everyone is a little different. What works for me might not work for you and what works for qman might not work for you.

I say rejecting the ideas of what "a man" is and "a woman" is and instead letting people embrace and balance their femininity and masculinity is alot healthier than preaching ideals.



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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #24010486 - 01/14/17 06:35 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

people of all genders need to develop thicker skin. 
stick and stones can break your bones, but yadda yadda yadda.
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24010506 - 01/14/17 06:47 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

That's a decent sentiment that I don't disagree with nor do I think qman does.  Nothing he said contradicts your ideas of what it "should" be like.

The problem is, boys are brought up to suppress their masculinity on a large scale...taught that their natural biological male characteristics are a negative thing.  It's one large guilt trip. And if you are white it's even worse :smirk:  ...but that's a whole other conversation lol

The point is, if we lived in a world that embraced the unique Ying and Yang of our very biological inner nature's, I too think the world would be healthier.  The symbiotic nature of female and male characteristics and behaviour can and should be a beautiful thing that works in harmony with one another.


Having chick's have free reign to physically assault men and celebrated for it, with a system that largely leaves such behaviour unpunished, while demonizing men who do the same or demonized for even defending themselves from one of these yahoo's, is NOT a healthy embrace of female and male characteristics.  That much is for certain.

So how do we fix it to what you and me want to see?  That is the real question. Well first of all, we can drop the sick twisted version of radical feminism prevalent in our society today.  Thats only one head of the hydra though.


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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Masked] * 1
    #24010544 - 01/14/17 07:05 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

People are going out of their minds.  Too much time with t.v. and not enough time in nature anymore.  It allows too much room for wandering off the trail of reality and into all sorts of fantasy lands.  And people are pushing forced acceptance of those fantasy lands now more than ever.  Of course there are going to be problems..


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