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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
#24001430 - 01/11/17 02:42 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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I punched my sister in the stomach once. We were both teenagers and she had me by the hair and was tugging back and forth. She's kinda fat so she probably outweighed me by 20 lbs. I gave her a couple warnings and about 10 sec to think about it, then i let her have it. POW! I didn't hit her nearly as hard as i could have, but she let go. Then the waterworks come on, and i'm the bad guy. My whole family was there and anyone could have intervened at any time. They started to jump my shit and i was like "fuck you, fuck you, fuck,you, fuck you, I'm out" like in Half-Baked. She's the only lady i've ever had cause to even think about having to hit.
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: ballsalsa] 3
#24001494 - 01/11/17 03:05 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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I think a good question is, were women always so emboldened to attack men like they do today?
My guess is no, with the strict domestic abuse laws that mostly favor women and with the constant marketing of women being physical and sexual abuse victims, I think it has given many women the mindset that they can attack men with impunity.
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: ballsalsa]
#24001584 - 01/11/17 03:41 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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See I punched my little brother in the chin and I got popped in the head for it. I learned from a relatively young age you are an asshole if you hit someone smaller and weaker than you.
I was very athletic in high school with thanks to JROTC and well over 200lbs (and could bench press more than that) so while I may have :flexed: and made threats for the most part I was more likely to hit a guy than a girl. Pound for pound, muscle for muscle, I dunno if I could have taken a guy my size but there was a few guys I handled like a kitten.
...or maybe rowdy puppies  I know I couldn't take a muscular dude bigger and taller than me tho. I would wrestle with them and play football and definitely conest their strength but I was never stupid enough to do it in a serious manner. And they were smart enough not to treat me like another guy. Smart enough not to treat me like another girl too 
But there was a tiny 90lb woman that was pretty much in a blind rage and I'm pretty sure she wanted to murder me with her bare hands. I did handle her like a kitten. Wrapped her up in my arms and held her until I could pass her off to someone else and leave. Imo that's what you should do when a woman smaller than you gets in your face and hits you. You stand up for yourself but you don't really end up hurting anyone. Unless they hurt themselves struggling but that's on them.
Qman: no. Though slapping a man when he gets out of bounds is such a strong cultural image I think there have been exceptions. Women might have been subjugated to men but they were still allowed to defend their honor.
Now the women I see pick fights with men that they clearly have no right in picking... Well they're fucking dumb and I think they'd pick a fight with 265lb me and gotten tossed like a kitten still. I don't think it's entirely incorrect, what you say, I think that's part of it and there is also a perception that a quick slap to the face won't hurt a man all too much (and ime this is sometimes the case.) but there are people of both sexes that think if they're loud enough and aggressive enough that everyone will cower from them. I very much believe they should learn otherwise. Won't ever agree with excessive force though, not unless she's trying to sterilize you with her foot.
There are younger ignorant women that think that's funny or a good way to get what they want. Imo a woman that kicks a guy in his junk, unless he's attacking her, probably does deserve to get punched.
Anyway I think all in all it's a sexism that has base in reality but can't be ironed out in a law. The sexism comes as much from males expectations of males as it does female expectations of males. Though that's pretty common of all stubborn forms of sexism.
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#24001692 - 01/11/17 04:31 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
#24001717 - 01/11/17 04:43 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
#24001720 - 01/11/17 04:45 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: There is value in discussing alot of these things. It's just weird that alot of these hard topics come from you, from one person. Not only that but you also have videos and articles (without sources.) which makes me wonder if you actively think of these things and then seek supporting sources to back you without having to mention an opinion in the OP (which is pretty smart I'll admit) or if you just browse the web all day and think "THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THREAD."
I genuinely do wonder how you come up with these things.
I read a shit ton of books, I watch TED talks all the time and I follow the news of 5 different countries.
I limit myself at 2 threads a day because otherwise I would own the first page of the Pub.
Whenever I see that the first page is boring, I start a few threads.
As of right now, I could easily start 5 different threads on 5 completely different subjects.
Also I don't post an opinion in the OP because A: It skews the opinion of others and B: I open myself up for attacks which would immediately derail the thread.
I enjoy reading the opinions of people on sensitive subjects because it shows how humanity reacts. Of course I try to make the titles as click baitable as I can. And yes, I go for successful threads.
Woops. Sorry kitty. I thought a reply but apparently I didn't type it.
Makes sense tho. I used to listen to alot of interesting podcasts at work and enjoyed talking about the topics with people I know. Now I listen to fiction and unfortunately it's hard to talk about imaginary universe that no one is living with you. I can be so scatterbrained though that there usually isn't much point to me bringing up a topic anyway. I'm ADD and I think it interferes with other peoples' ADD and short attention spans.
I think you do it on a scale closer to right than wrong... It's just hard not to tease you
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
#24001735 - 01/11/17 04:50 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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I won't apply anymore than minimum force to stop an aggressive woman coming after me but if anyone came after a member of my family it will be my full intention to kill them, man, woman, or child.
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#24001806 - 01/11/17 05:25 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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I never hit or plan on hitting a female unless my life is at risk and i must do what i gatta do. I had my gf beat the shit out of me and i took it because if i would lay 1 hit its going to be a k.o and cops will probably come and il be the one with a bad rap n spend my days eating baloney sandwiches.
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: diablo33180]
#24001810 - 01/11/17 05:27 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: acidninja]
#24001896 - 01/11/17 06:02 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Of course Cat stuff is woman's work
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I watch a lot of fight videos. I've seen the full videos of all these already. Some of them are kinda fucked up, the dudes went overboard in a couple but some of them they got exactly what they had coming.
The fucked up part is the double standard held by society. It's perfectly acceptable for a woman to hit or abuse a man but if a man defends himself and fights back he's a piece of shit that needs to go to jail?
There has been demonstrated in numerous different social experiments for this exact same thing in parts all over the world. The results are almost always the same. People laugh or rubberneck when a woman is beating up a man.. but step in or beat the man if he fights back.
It's exactly that mentality that causes shit like this to occur:
Anyway here's one of those clips from that video, the full one.. the bus driver uppercutting the fuck out of that chick.
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It is unclear what the two first began fighting over, but the female can be heard threatening to fight the driver. The driver then says he will get his daughter and granddaughter to come down and deal with the 25-year-old woman, who then tells him to bring along his "mammy," the International Business Times notes.
The woman approaches the bus driver, and the driver rises from his seat and hits the young woman before throwing her off the bus.
"She want to be a man, I'm gonna treat you like a man," the driver announces to the screaming crowd. RTA officials are unsure when the uppercut incident occurred, but they believe it happened on Sept. 18, UPDATE: Oct. 13, 5:13 p.m. -- New information has been released, identifying the bus driver as Artis Hughes and the female passenger as Shidea N. Lane. According to the police report, obtained by Cleveland.com, Lane allegedly got on the bus driven by Hughes without paying, claiming she forgot her backpack. She proceeded to ask "Are you putting me off the bus?" and "Is this how you treat people in Cleveland?" Lane eventually paid and called Hughes a "bitch." The two got into a verbal argument, according to the police report, and Lane reportedly proceeded to grab Hughes' throat, spit in his face and strike him with her fist.
One of the other ones is some aggro chick punching some dude after saying what are you gonna do hit a girl?
Anyway I don't support hitting women. That's not fair. But if woman demand equal rights and then they also want to incite violence upon men and they will laugh about it because they think they have complete immunity (and they are right in most cases), they shouldn't really be surprised when they get hit and laid out like a man also. Women and men are taught in society even from the youngest ages that women can hit men and men can NEVER fight back or hit them back. It's OK for women to hit men without fearing repercussions, but the reverse is demonized by all of society. Double fucking standards much?
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Shroomism]
#24002535 - 01/11/17 09:57 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Someone's got to do it, and I find no fault in them doing so.
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Repertoire89]
#24002594 - 01/11/17 10:25 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Everyone wants to be the victim..
Whether or not it's right or wrong, if you're dumb enough to go swinging on someone that could mop the floor with you, chances are you're going to play the part of the mop sooner or later. That's just common sense..
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Amanita86]
#24002639 - 01/11/17 10:45 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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blah blah blah subduing is more hot anyway.
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#24002644 - 01/11/17 10:46 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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You might could brush your hand against a boob by accident too.
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#24002679 - 01/11/17 11:04 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Subduing doesnt send the same message, if you punch someone in the face you're entitled to the same. You do someone a favor by putting them in their place when someone else might take their place away entirely. Thats a valuable lesson.
Not to mention anyone else they might harass, which is frankly more important than some troglodyte who goes around attacking people.
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Amanita86]
#24002738 - 01/11/17 11:30 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Tbh anytime something like this comes up and someone says "well they wanted equal rights" it makes you seem bitter for a demographic that represents half the population wanting rights equal to the other half. Not sure entirely why, I think it's cuz it usually comes from the same people that would argue tooth and nail that women already are equal to men and, if anything, it's men who are disadvantaged now. It's men who are the victims...
Times are changing though, thankfully. I've seen women assaulting men get taken way more seriously in recent years. Now just cuz a woman goes and smacks a man doesn't mean it's okay to "mop the floor with them." wouldn't be okay if it was a man either. Yes it's dumb. Doesn't mean it's okay. And it isn't okay that a woman may get a lesser punishment for assaulting a man than the other way around.
But let's be honest, most women that got into a fight with most men, both throwing their hardest punches, is most likely going to be more hurt. And I don't just mean from a physical build perspective. There is also fighting knowledge. Little boys wrestle and fight. Little girls play with dolls. Obviously this doesn't begin to account for nearly everyone but the point is it isn't a fair fight. Men are more likely to be exposed to fight culture even tho both are likely to be exposed to violence.
And I do think you're an asshole if you escalate violence unless you've been harassed and stalked or whatever and actually felt threatened. I had a good friend who had his buddy take a swing at him when they were drinking. He ducked and the punch missed. He probably could have just pushed his drunk buddy over but he instead (probably out of drunken reaction) punched his friend straight in the forehead and knocked him backwards off the porch.
Thankfully because drunk people are made of jelly friends buddy didn't get more than a knot on the head. My friend tho broke 3 bones in his hand.
He might not have been an asshole considering the circumstances but he was definitely a dumbass. Not at all saying that you shouldn't stick up for yourself but any self respecting adult should try to descalate a fight. Not "put an end to it" by knocking the other person out. Not unless it's a full on fight, there's a weapon, or you are actually hurt.
If you do get attacked by someone who thinks they're immune to consequences, be "a man" and call the police. If you want things to change then you need to be a part of the change. Violence doesn't often result in anyone looking more favourably on you. Also not saying that alot of women with this mentality shouldn't learn a lesson... But being arrested for assault and battery is a pretty good start. Getting yourself arrested for trying to one-up her is just stupid.
I've seen fights of either sex that are needlessly started and escalated and I don't agree with that either. I wish all of everyone to stop being stupid violent assholes.
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: Patlal]
#24002748 - 01/11/17 11:36 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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You shouldn't be physically assaulting anyone period. And you shouldn't be physically assaulting anyone and not expect repercussions of it for both sexes. In some instances, I can understand why a woman would slap a man and get a bit out of control. But there was never a moment in my brain where I would think that if I started smacking that I wouldn't get smacked back in return. Especially said in situations where punching was involved. I can also understand if a man retaliated against a woman who got reaaaally out of control with it.
Either way, both sexes were taught not to hit, kick, etc. And both sexes should know as children/teenagers or adults to not do it without repercussions. Excessive aggressors should be treated the same as excessive retaliation to the situation, IMO.
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#24002763 - 01/11/17 11:44 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Not at all saying that you shouldn't stick up for yourself but any self respecting adult should try to descalate a fight. Not "put an end to it" by knocking the other person out. Not unless it's a full on fight, there's a weapon, or you are actually hurt.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Especially if it is very easy to subdue a chick just by holding her and screaming at her to calm down if she is getting escalated.
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There is also fighting knowledge. Little boys wrestle and fight. Little girls play with dolls.
This I do not agree with. If a woman is coming at you swinging then she knows what a fight means.
The woman who grew up staying with dolls and not fighting is probably not the woman who is swinging at you. Or if she is, she probably has a really good reason to do so and is probably still easily subdued as it is probably more of an emotional reaction from being hurt. But still. Not ok.
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Re: Videos of men punching back at a woman. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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CookieCrumbs said: Keep your hands to yourself, don't hurt anyone unless you have to, hyper-violent culture.
Kind of funny that if you raise a child to like superheroes, you actually encourage them to be more violent, which contradicts what superheroes are supposed to be about.
I was speaking to someone the other day about the whole alpha/beta thing which people are obsessed with, and it seems like we're never going to evolve past the point of having to idolize someone for taking control and being alpha, which seems kind of stupid, like we're just OK with being stuck as evolved apes, I like to think we can evolved further, to a point where we don't need to think in such animalistic terms, but I think perhaps this next step will involved some serious growth for the human race, and I know that many will probably never reach that point because in order for this behavior to come to fruition, we would have to put our pride on the back burner, I am rambling, fuck.
Anyway, I thought that feminism meant that women wanted to be treated the same as men, and not just for women's rights, but also so that women that abuse their vagina as a tool of manipulation, can't pull that shit anymore, which is why some girls say feminism will help guys as well. I am not talking about femnazis though, that's a whole different thing which is in the "extreme" category for myself, but if women want to be treated equal, then they shouldn't abuse the fact that their women to get over on the system, you can't say you want to be treated equally in only a certain few things, if you want to be treated equally, then you have to be treated equally in everything. I think when approaching feminism like this, that this will encourage women to not use their femininity to their advantage.
I used to know a girl that would slam herself into her spouse when arguing, like she was trying to get him to do something to her so she could then go cry a river to everyone else, she was an attention whore at best, and any girl that goes about being like that, is being abusive, but I have seen girls abuse the fact that they are women over and over again, of course I have seen guys be fucking assholes too, so please don't think I am taking sides, if anything I side with the pets who have to tolerate our bullshit.
Clearly man and woman need to keep the proper channels of communication open.
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