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"Sober" tweekers * 1
    #24000053 - 01/11/17 01:11 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Ever met any? Related to any? Gotta put up with any?


Everyone will tell you about meth capital of the world *insert shit town here* and there's 45+ in every state.  Meth is everywhere.

Now the thing about meth use I find disturbing, is when the user forgets they use meth!

I have worked with people like this, and talked to a lot of them in the middle of the night due to insomnia.  I used to use meth periodically but I never found that perfect pitch with it like tweekers do.




But I swear, I regularly run into tweekers, that are not only spun cookies up for days, but they go to NA AA and give people rides, and constantly down talk any drug use. I've had someone who hadn't slept in a week argue with me for hours about how my marijuana use was ruining my life, always making me tired and lazy, over eating, and said I needed to get clean like him.  I said.....but you're high?.....him and all of them reply.....Nah I haven't done anything in days......then I ask them when the last time they slept was and they can't remember.


I got some weird stories about winding up with people like this.  I guess I need to get better at eye contact and attentive skills, because I'll be around one for days sometimes before I catch on.

It's like the person with a flask who pretends they've been clean for 10 years, they just fall off the wagon sometimes :rolleyes:


What the fuck is so impressive about sobriety that you have to literally lie to peoples faces about your use? Strangers at that?  Just own that shit and fucking love it.


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: vandago]
    #24000185 - 01/11/17 03:53 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

My GFs older brother is like that. He says he stopped using meth, but he sure acts like hes on meth sometimes. Hes one of those functional meth addicts that blends in pretty well.

Its hard to tell sometimes, especially when they get used to the high and become functional meth heads.


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #24000704 - 01/11/17 10:10 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Ya of they are not twitching all over it can be hard to spot.  Like any habit you get better at covering up the stigma as best you can to reduce negative reactions.

My friend who just fell off the meth wagon had almost 2 years sober. You could see it coming, he was bored,  failed attempts at relationships ect ect


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: vandago]
    #24000731 - 01/11/17 10:21 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Ever met any? Related to any? Gotta put up with any?


Everyone will tell you about meth capital of the world *insert shit town here* and there's 45+ in every state.  Meth is everywhere.

Now the thing about meth use I find disturbing, is when the user forgets they use meth!

I have worked with people like this, and talked to a lot of them in the middle of the night due to insomnia.  I used to use meth periodically but I never found that perfect pitch with it like tweekers do.




But I swear, I regularly run into tweekers, that are not only spun cookies up for days, but they go to NA AA and give people rides, and constantly down talk any drug use. I've had someone who hadn't slept in a week argue with me for hours about how my marijuana use was ruining my life, always making me tired and lazy, over eating, and said I needed to get clean like him.  I said.....but you're high?.....him and all of them reply.....Nah I haven't done anything in days......then I ask them when the last time they slept was and they can't remember.


I got some weird stories about winding up with people like this.  I guess I need to get better at eye contact and attentive skills, because I'll be around one for days sometimes before I catch on.

It's like the person with a flask who pretends they've been clean for 10 years, they just fall off the wagon sometimes :rolleyes:


What the fuck is so impressive about sobriety that you have to literally lie to peoples faces about your use? Strangers at that?  Just own that shit and fucking love it.




never met a meth addict, but the user bitter cactus comes to mind :lol:


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 2
    #24000902 - 01/11/17 11:34 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Ya of they are not twitching all over it can be hard to spot.  Like any habit you get better at covering up the stigma as best you can to reduce negative reactions.

My friend who just fell off the meth wagon had almost 2 years sober. You could see it coming, he was bored,  failed attempts at relationships ect ect






Seems boredom and lack of relationships is what gets em every time.  I don't know if it's my age or my mood as of the last couple years, but I could never see myself even doing a bump.  The stuff just doesn't do anything pleasurable for me.



The tweekers I know think they have the secrets of the universe, but they can't actually tell you....they just go on explaining how they figured "It" out and the patterns and events that led up to it on a nice psychotic binge.  They eat, sleep, work, and do everything you would expect a normal person to do.  Then they invite you over to their house.......


.....then you gotta fake a phone call and GTFO before things actually get weird.


I don't have a problem with drug use. I just don't like being a jbo site and then having someone so spun they can't do anything but smoke cigarettes and "come up with ideas" or heroin addicts that say "Hang on I gotta go take a shit" more than twice in a 4 hour period every 4 hours.

The thing is they always give it away somehow.  It's just weird that addiction grips people so bad, the way they talk, they believe it.


I had a reason for starting this thread.  Since my sleep walking incident and car crash, I have had hundreds of people scream sobriety at me while my ankle has been vibrating and I can't smoke weed or being around drug users.  And half of these people aren't really sober.  Meth is a hell of a drug, just because you only did a few shots on sunday, doesn't mean your head is right on wednesday. I'm very grateful it never appealed to me. 

Sobriety has never done anything for me that being wasted didn't, aside from being able to operate motor vehicle, fuck, and sometimes setting up electronics is a hassle.  I Don't have kids so it's different.


My close friend spent 90 days inpatient rehab, got completely clean off of heroin and he had been hook a long time. Been out of rehab for about 3-4 months, then out of no where, SOBER, had a stroke a passed away a week before christmas.


I could go on and on about the sober people who died young out of no where, and 60 year old crack heads with good jobs.


And really?  You tell someone who's buried in their mind after driving their car into a swamp asleep "You need to get sober" is the first thing you say?  I have had that said to me 10x more than, damn are you or even your car ok?  I always remind them that I can not drink and drive, so I wasn't mixing booze and pills, and I have no cash to get anything that would intoxicate me. Once I showed them the ticket and that a blew a 0.00 and passed a dipstick test but failed field tests, they kinda back off and just don't know what to say.

Some of them do really mean the best, and those are the only ones I explain anything too.  Someone with a needle in their arm tells me to get off the sauce, I just tell them remember your dope is cut as fuck.


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: vandago]
    #24000917 - 01/11/17 11:40 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I don't care about this thread of the OP's opinions on this stuff regardless.

OP sounds like he's tweaking right now and is trying to assuage his drug use onto other people third person like.


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: AmazonianGuru] * 3
    #24000932 - 01/11/17 11:45 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Op just woke up and has been taking random drug tests for over 2 years now.  The only drug I will take that causes insanity is dissociatives and that's because I enjoy the feeling, but I'm not about to run a blade on them, or had a crack sack of K in my pocket for when no ones looking.


Sorry, did I burst your meth bulb?


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: vandago]
    #24001005 - 01/11/17 12:07 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

i enjoyed this thread, it made me laugh more than once.

im not sure i can say ive encountered these tweakers, i dont believe i have but i can get a good picture of them in my mind.

shits fucked.


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: Connoisseur]
    #24001054 - 01/11/17 12:25 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

The thing is, you have, they just didn't tell you.

I grew up in such a country area that I have been around a lot of tweekers while I get an AA speech about marijuana as they smash natty light.

I mean when they are doing rails on the table, and we are talking philosophically about uppers vs downers, fuck it, whip out the chess board.

But when I'm replacing windows in a home, and someone isn't helping me because they are too spun to hear "Hey yo, hand over here" and a window shatters in my face......It's slightly annoying. 

I have done a lot of telemarketing too.  You can't hide it there.  Fuckers are going a mile a minute on the phone, and not making ANY sales, but still going full force lol.


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: vandago] * 1
    #24001140 - 01/11/17 01:09 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I met the only chill tweaked I have ever come across once walking around downtown at night drunk with some friends. We had been romping around when out of nowhere this shady tweeker walks up... We all got pretty nervous until he started going off about how terrible Meth is.

He said he tried it once a d immediately was hooked and started breaking into cars to get his fix. He went on to tell us to stick with cannabis and psychedelics and other safer natural drugs. It was an interesting experience.


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: musiclover420]
    #24001209 - 01/11/17 01:38 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Bitter cactus?


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: topdog82]
    #24001281 - 01/11/17 01:59 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Wasn't bitter cactus your average conspiracy tweeker though that you try not to even make eye contact with at walmart?  Not a guy you have known for months and suddenly you realize why he has so many "projects".


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: vandago]
    #24001389 - 01/11/17 02:31 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Wasn't bitter cactus your average conspiracy tweeker though that you try not to even make eye contact with at walmart?  Not a guy you have known for months and suddenly you realize why he has so many "projects".




I wish I was a more stimulated person, I have a ton of projects I need to get on but being stoned all the time makes it tough :shakefist:

Coffee and kratom help to an extent but they are too finicky, sometimes coffee just makes me crash and kratom can be too sedating.


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: musiclover420]
    #24001715 - 01/11/17 04:43 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Knew a functional tweaker,really couldn't tell he was high,he got ran over a couple years ago,hit and run,never solved


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: AmazonianGuru]
    #24002771 - 01/11/17 11:47 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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I don't care about this thread of the OP's opinions on this stuff regardless.

OP sounds like he's tweaking right now and is trying to assuage his drug use onto other people third person like.




This lol, whats up with the strange spacing

No offense OP, but I'm not exactly sure what your getting at here. Your not an advocate for sobriety, which I respect, but your upset over people who are far from sober telling you that you should be sober?...Do you think these people should be sober? Why are you even taking these people seriously. It sounds like your letting this get under your skin way too much. I cant really tell from your posts how positively or negatively your substance use effects your life, but regardless these people sound batshit crazy


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: OliverJames]
    #24002808 - 01/12/17 12:01 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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UniversalShaman said:
I don't care about this thread of the OP's opinions on this stuff regardless.

OP sounds like he's tweaking right now and is trying to assuage his drug use onto other people third person like.




This lol, whats up with the strange spacing

No offense OP, but I'm not exactly sure what your getting at here. Your not an advocate for sobriety, which I respect, but your upset over people who are far from sober telling you that you should be sober?...Do you think these people should be sober? Why are you even taking these people seriously. It sounds like your letting this get under your skin way too much. I cant really tell from your posts how positively or negatively your substance use effects your life, but regardless these people sound batshit crazy





And when did I advocate sobriety, other than on a job site?

I double space all my posts to avoid walls of text, I've been posting on the site for 12 years like this.  Most people here who frequent conversations with me know I'm a spaz, but a downer guy......I like K, Booze, benzos, used to love opiates.  I've done meth maybe 20 times in 30 years.

I'm an advocate for honesty. I don't care it you boot up right in front of me, just don't sneak off and do it then almost knock me off a 20 foot ladder because you are fucking twacked.

Set and setting.  Trust. I'm advocating those things here, and asking if anyone has issues with people they suddenly find out are closet tweakers.


Maybe your reading comprehension vs my articulation of thoughts to print don't add up? 

Sorry I sound "batshit insane" because I don't like closet drug addicts.


You ever have to kick in a bathroom door and find someone falling out on the toilet? Or ever watch someone burst a water valve and have needles fall out of their pocket while you are standing there with your boss trying to kick them out of the way for him so your boss doesn't fire him because he's your friend?


Gimme some dabs and a bottle of whiskey, they can keep the meth. If I wanted extreme stimulation I would take MDMA with a female.  Not bang a tenth of meth in a porta potty before I ran a table saw.


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: vandago]
    #24002825 - 01/12/17 12:10 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Dude I didn't even say you were batshit crazy...
"I cant really tell from your posts how positively or negatively your substance use effects your life, but regardless these people sound batshit crazy"

The people you keep talking about, these meth and heroin users that are telling you to be sober that you reference to in your first post...

But no, I've never been around anyone like that thankfully. Like I said, I legit don't know a single person personally who uses meth or heroin. Although I do know a lot of functional adderall addicts


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: OliverJames]
    #24002845 - 01/12/17 12:19 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Damn, yolk all over me there.  My bad I misread that.  8 mg klonopin, a long day, and my valerian root and melatonin are kicking in.  I still won't sleep for a bit.


I live in an area where meth has been on a plate in more than half the houses I frequent. Maybe the cousin, maybe the dad, maybe my friend, but a lot of people here use meth.  Ask Treana. It's methy and dopey as fuck where we live, like disgustingly, and there's some fucking deranged people in this area of Ohio.

Sorry on the defense there. I went dennis rodman and kicked the camera man.


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: vandago]
    #24002859 - 01/12/17 12:28 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Damn man, thats fucked up. Just sounds like a toxic place. But I will admit, I live in a relatively affluent area, even if my town itself isn't all that wealthy. I've only been to the midwest once for a short time but I feel like I sensed the vibe your talking about while I was there

Anyway, sounds like you got your head on straight, you know what your into and what your not into. I'd say just dont let those people bring you down. But also try to support them to the best of your ability if your close to them, as hard as I'd imagine that could be


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Re: "Sober" tweekers [Re: vandago]
    #24002903 - 01/12/17 12:53 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

I really think open drug use among friends is a huge factor in being friends. I gotta be able to trust you.


Like Topdog82 giving that person GHB and that person suddenly speaking up that he took a bunch of xanax prior, when Topdog straight asked him if he did, and told him it was a no no.

A friend of mine died shooting up in the bathroom about 5 months ago, fell and hit his head off the sink.

These are incidences when it could have been avoided had the person been around someone NOT high on dope to be like...."Uhhhh bud your visions a bit off, you should probably half that shot, I don't think you realize how high you are."



A really close friend of mine that passed away in 2010, 2nd person I ever met off this site.  I never ever ever knew he used heroin.  We met in 2006 and in 4 years never once knew.  He lived about 10 minutes from my house, we hung out almost every day, but I had never met a heroin addict before because if I saw it I cut ties.  My friend shot a lot of ketamine, which he preferred to do in the bathroom because of comfort, and we were ok with that.

Turned out he was never shooting k, and we were so high from snorting it we never really caught on.

One day I get my heartbroke, and find out his mom found him dead in his bedroom OD'd on H.  Then it came out of the wood work from his friends who all use that he had been on it for a while. Never had a clue.


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