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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: van hatton]
    #24290613 - 05/02/17 06:58 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Nice update!

Im still working on getting my 16 qt tubs to work more efficiently.  Maybe fruiting at spawning is a mistake.  I'm gonna tie the tubs inside a trash bag for the spawn run, see if that makes a difference.


Btw I'm fully convinced that you can grow some shrooms.  Inspiring


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Kenetic]
    #24291094 - 05/02/17 10:40 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Why do u think it was a mistake?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24291482 - 05/03/17 03:56 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

For my particular tubs because the surface of the sub has been getting a little firm from drying and I have to mist.  I normally wouldnt even mist or anything on a normal tub.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Kenetic]
    #24291483 - 05/03/17 03:57 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Im getting plenty of shrooms but it neefs to be a little more efficient.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Kenetic]
    #24291559 - 05/03/17 06:06 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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Im getting plenty of shrooms but it neefs to be a little more efficient.





I do nothing with mine until day 5, and then I open them for a look and then just keep them closed until day 10 or when pinning starts (Typical GT).

If you start misting early you have to keep at it and it gets to be a pita. It's really easy now. Very low maint.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Kenetic] * 1
    #24291561 - 05/03/17 06:08 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Ime those smaller tubs dry out way quicker as well. Especially if you're cracking the lid for fae you'll probably be misting weather you fruit at spawn or not
But like crispy said you're going to save yourself some hassle by fruiting fully colonized.

The advantages of fruiting fully colonized outweighs fruiting at spawn every time


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24291563 - 05/03/17 06:10 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

So waiting to fruit until full colonization will yield better?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24291565 - 05/03/17 06:11 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Yup. Fully colonized gives you that edge in your favor for sure...Ahh shroomworld...:smile:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Crispykoot]
    #24291568 - 05/03/17 06:13 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not saying that yield is better, that would have to be looked at objectively.
With edible (non actives) full colonization correlates to better yield generally.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Crispykoot]
    #24291584 - 05/03/17 06:29 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I have a few tubs going both ways. I like fruiting at spawn, but my spawn is shit. I know there is bacteria in there. It seems this helps, not eliminates, but helps reduce the speed that mold comes on. Mold doesn't seem to like near as much FAE as shrooms do.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Kenetic]
    #24335782 - 05/20/17 02:12 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Great Tek!  Followed along with great results for my first monotub.

Few concerns though, I have noticed condensation within some of the new tubs is widely different, some I can't see into the tubs because there is so much, and some are clear because there appears to be no humidity inside the tub.

First tub: good condensation, droplets on surface.
Second tub: good condensation, droplets on surface.
third tub: no condensation, not droplets on surface, AND water pooling underneath the liner...

Im not sure what happened with the third tub, as they are all same Tek and specs.  The liner I used was a garbage bag, cut so that it becomes two layers.  Is it possible it wasn't flush enough with the tub, or there is a hole I cannot see below where water is pooling out?  Very confused, but I have misted it into pinning, but obviously this is kinda not the point of a monotub if I have to cater to it every day.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: thegwd]
    #24335787 - 05/20/17 02:14 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

pics would help.

nice avatar:cool:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24348308 - 05/25/17 07:45 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Hey there, I have a question about the holes for FAE. You guys (and lots of others) have talked about holes at the bottom of the tub, as well as at the top.

I am a little confused. By holes at the bottom, do you mean where the substate is?

I have a monotub with lots of small 5mm (sorry on the metric system) holes all the way around about 1" under the lid on all 4 walls of the tub. I'm not using any polyfill or anything to block the holes.
What are the holes at the bottom that you are talking about?

I have just been misting and fanning in the morning, when i get home from work & before I go to bed. Plenty of condensation on the lid of the tub so humidity is high.

A couple of weeks ago the  sub had fully colonised under aluminum foil in the tub. I took off the foil, there was plenty of moisture starting to accumulate on the substrate. and i didn't get any pins after 7 days and there looked to be a slightly brownish tinge.  I took the advice of a friend & cased it with 50:50 coir / verm. Prob about 1" thick at most. I  Let the casing colonise for a week in the dark.
I checked it & there were 3 shrooms growing through the casing, so i figured it was time to open it to the light.
Those shrooms grew, and have had 3 others, plus a few other pins scattered along one length of the tub. No pins in the main body and none on the other length.  Very few pins all up, however I can see that the myc has poked through all thru the casing. its been 10 days since i opened it up to the light.

I did have a reptile heat mat under it while spawning the casing, and this did get pretty hot at times (my kids playing with the thermostat settings) so have now removed this.

The fruits i have had look lovely (unsure of strain), but there just aint that many of them. How long do you think I should expect to wait for more pinning? Would it be normal for it to take a few weeks?

Temperatures are at around 64-70F between night & day.

Do I need more FAE? Casing is moist so don't want to add too much h20
Could I have killed a load of the myc with the heat mat?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Permadelica]
    #24348371 - 05/25/17 08:12 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Hahahaha

Looks like you have a while to go


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Permadelica]
    #24361042 - 05/30/17 08:13 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Things seem to be moving along now. About 30 -40 pins & babies poking through the casing! :smile:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid] * 3
    #24533598 - 08/05/17 08:47 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

i know this threads a little old. but i love this thread. thought i would post some pictures. i don't really observe the conditions when i do my tubs with the way i run them. but this is a good example of pinning with the beads of moisture on the surface. cool thread comebackkid! what i find so cool about it is, that in my environment i run, i pretty much do this same thing. my environment does it all without any effort. but its a good thing to look at what is providing ques to your fruiting environmental changes. once you dial in your setup, you shouldn't have to do any work. it appears you colonize with tape or what not. i don't do this. i keep poly or pinky filters in tighter. this removes the step of having to use tape or anything like that. :thumbup:

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i'll add a note. this tub has the filters in it 3 folded since spawning. nothing has changed. there is no fan in the room. and the bulk substrate is strawnet/coir. there was no misting done prior to this flush but the surface looks like that at pinning.there was a top layer of strawnet/coir added about 1/4" depth at spawning.

sub recipe for this tub is 1 brick coir/ 1 cup strawnet/ 1 cup gyspum to 5 quarts water.

the idea is to keep these filters as is through the process. but if needed, they will be adjusted at fruiting. this is the first run ive done with no fan or little airflow.

the filters are a little more open pored than polyfil. so i think its a little different. ive attemped with a few configurations so far but tight is the 3rd configuration. the looser methods seemed to allow too much surface drying at vital points. also, the fan in the room only has a minumum medium speed. generally i use a fan with subtle low airflow. but i had to replace the pull chord a while back and home depot only had 2 speed fan replacements for a 3 speed fan. minimum fan speed is medium now. im going to use your thread to observe my surface conditions this time and hopefully contribute.

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: eatyualive]
    #24536970 - 08/07/17 01:30 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Beautiful lookin' tubs :awesomenod:
Ill see if I can incorporate some of your pics with the pinky filters into the OP, thanks Eatuyualive!

Definitely a nice benefit with your pinky filters or poly over mp tape. I'm personally just a sucker for the clean sharp look of MP tape even though its a pain in the ass to cut and layer it on there :lol:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24550364 - 08/13/17 10:57 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Just a question

Everybody are speaking about the tub begins too dry but what about the opposite problem?


I got a tub opened 3 days ago, and beads of moisture always on the surface

I dialed well so there is a good air cicle but....it seems that the micro droplets never evaporates

am I supposed to have always bead of moisture or I have to dry them up???


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: esse_jeremy]
    #24550570 - 08/13/17 12:21 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

As long as they aren't pooling it's fine.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #24553912 - 08/14/17 06:09 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:
Its fairly common for me to see beads even after fruits have matured


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