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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24125530 - 02/28/17 08:51 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

nice post brotha! ive also been thinking the winter months have dried everyones subs and they must be told!

A+ very informative info on correct moisture levels, thanks!


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: SpicyWizard]
    #24125835 - 02/28/17 11:39 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

:cheers:
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24127194 - 02/28/17 09:17 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

This seems like the right thread since I think you'll know what I'm talking about CBK

You run your tubs in three different FAE stages:
1. taped up for substrate colonization
2. pinning conditions with medium FAE
3. maximum FAE for remainder of flush

I have a few tubs that have recently finished their first flush and I'm wondering how to set the FAE to set up for a nice second flush.  Should I revert the FAE back to stage 2 with pinning conditions?  :strokebeard:

BTW i just received a case of 6 two-inch micropore tape rolls. :rockon:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #24127366 - 02/28/17 10:23 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I usually just leave them open after I harvest. Partly out of laziness but mostly because I don't get much for a pinset on the second flush anyway.
Just give a heavy mist and keep an eye on the surface.
If it's drying quickly and you gotta cover the holes up to keep the surface happy, then do it. If you don't mind misting here and there or if your heavy mist was enough then don't bother.

:lol: damn I'm jealous! I cant wait to use up this 1"
I bought a pack of 12 online so its going to take a while
Whered you find your 2 inch?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24139125 - 03/05/17 03:52 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Was just rereading some of this thread and realized you have been casing all your tubs... ahh I forgot about that.

Spawning a couple tubs today, so I'm going to remember to case with 2 qt CVG

meanwhile, here's a tub I spawned 10 days ago, uncased.  I'm stoked to see how this tub turns out because the bulk sub contains 2 full gallons of water.   



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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #24139144 - 03/05/17 03:58 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Holy shit! 8 quarts water to one brick of coir?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24139158 - 03/05/17 04:02 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

:standingby:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24139160 - 03/05/17 04:03 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Holy shit! 8 quarts water to one brick of coir?




lol no that would be a mess

8 qt water to 1500g coir, 1 qt verm, 1/4 cup gypsum, 10 myco-quarts spawn


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #24139161 - 03/05/17 04:04 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

:freewilly:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Josex]
    #24139174 - 03/05/17 04:09 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Ahaha that sounds better :lol:
I'd imagine 2 gallons to a brick would just be mud at that point


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24139204 - 03/05/17 04:22 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Awesome thread cbk!


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #24158139 - 03/13/17 07:48 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Okay so I fixed my humidity problem with two solutions.
First, I switch coco coir brands..
I was using "Eco Earth" the only brand NOT recommended xD
Right now I'm using two different organic brands, both are expanding almost twice as much as the eco earth.
Second, the majority of my monotubs were simply too big.
I switched from 64qt to 56qt. THAT was KEY. Gave me 4 inch thick substrate instead of under 3 inches as well as walls FILLED with humidity.
I raised the room humidity the tubs are in by sealing up the doors better and putting a sonic mister behind a fan in the room..

I spawn with tape over the holes, and I separate a quart of "casing" (croir/verm) in a jar. Wait about 7 days, within one of those days pressure cook the jar.
When the tub is ready/colonized I also check to see if I can lift and move the tub without warping/cracking the substrate. I leave it flat on the ground while colonizing with holes taped until it holds its shape then I can stack them up without worrying about Warping and cracking substrates..
When colonized I take my sterilized jar of "casing" and case the substrate with gloves on. Right after I case it I put polyfil in top holes loosely. I put 1 layer of micro pore tape for the side facing the wall. I put one layer of micro pore for the front with a second layer over just the top half of the front /fan facing holes. I keep it with micro pore tape until I want to increase FAE, then I switch it out with polyfil... it works better for me for full fae..
I keep the actual room at around 70% to 80% humidity and so I am able to fan the boxes like mad without loosing humidity.
I've now had two of the best flushes I've ever had...
Sorry I did not post photos before but I will now as soon as this flush finishes!

With the new boxes and better coco coir I might mist ONE time for the first flush. When my casing layer gets colonized I mist a once but only if needed..


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Motherload]
    #24158463 - 03/13/17 10:52 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

That's odd. I've never heard anyone reccomend against eco earth before.
That's the brand I have been using. I do find that it expands better if you break it up first though


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24158514 - 03/13/17 11:15 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Well on page four someone showed evidence of a different brand being better for 1$ extra. It was then that I switched brands and had incredible results for just about a dollar or so more. I'm now putting 5.5 quarts of water in each tub! I could probably do 6 quarts with no problems this stuff really expands at least 20%-50% more volume than eco earth.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Motherload]
    #24158524 - 03/13/17 11:18 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

What brand?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24158552 - 03/13/17 11:34 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003DQPS5U/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489425765&sr=8-1-fkmr1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N7JNYCZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1489425668&sr=8-16&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65

Both performed equally. Order it with your vermiculite to get free shipping.
I liked the worm factory brand because they shipped it straight in a cardboard box absolutely no plastic/trash or even label.
Oh and I just realized the second link no longer carries 5pack just 10pack..


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Motherload]
    #24158589 - 03/13/17 11:49 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Sweet...thanks!


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24190729 - 03/25/17 02:23 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Good stuff CBK!
Thank you!


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #24192151 - 03/25/17 02:26 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Wonderful thread, very informative! Excited to give micropore tape a try on my next tub.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Om Namo Shivaya]
    #24240236 - 04/13/17 11:49 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

:bump:


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