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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24031783 - 01/22/17 10:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I was confused at first too. Didn't realize randy was bumping the thread :lol:
Thanks mushboy, cool if I steal that pic?
I'm starting a small collection and gunna update when I start the grow log portion.




yah go for it.. ill try to take glammer shots before/after misting and stuff:thumbup:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushboy]
    #24032157 - 01/23/17 12:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:takingnotes:
Keep the research goin! I'm lovin this thread
Following....
I have 6 monotubs all spawned out, first time I've had more than one colonized tub at the same time..
Been trying different methods of spawning/fruiting etc
So far I feel most confident with taping the holes first vs fruiting at spawn.
I am ATM slowly introducing air with minimal FAE to 3 of the colonized tubs, while misting every other day or when necessary to keep surface covered in micro beads.

I Have had the holes taped etc and I still have had a problem with dry monotubs.
sometimes with no condensation on the walls (though that may be temps) and surface seeming dry.
This may be because its winter?
I have had to open the monotubs and mist to compensate for the dryness. Most tubs are fully colonized so I am slowly giving them air with polyfil in some of the holes. One tub is fruiting, though more on that later...
I will post many photos soon that you may use!


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Motherload]
    #24032898 - 01/23/17 12:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That's odd. Have you considered adding more water when preparing your bulk sub?

Thanks mushboy! :rockon:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24033043 - 01/23/17 01:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I've been adding 4.25 quarts of water instead of just 4 though I may bump it up to 4.5. But at this point humidity is rising again, winter has been short this year... I was at 20 to 30% RH for awhile and now I'm back up to 50 - 60% RH
I didn't want to add too much water and create anaerobic environments..

What are your suggestions on water? 4.5 quarts wont hurt anything?

When you squeeze your coco/verm does it drizzle a bit of water or only a few drips?

I'll take photos today


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Motherload]
    #24033247 - 01/23/17 03:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I've personally been using 4.5 but I have a hard time believing that 4.25 would not be sufficient. Either way it may be worth a shot!


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24033419 - 01/23/17 04:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

what brand of coco??

on the left is a brand from the local garden supply joint.. nice people:thumbup:

the one on the right is ecoearth from random megashit mart. asshole everywhere.

anyway the 'premo' brand is $1 more but holds a solid 5qaurts everytime.
the ecoearth barely hold 4.5.

the ecoearth even weighs slightly more..:shrug:
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushboy]
    #24033426 - 01/23/17 04:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Wow! You'd think that at least weight would be reliable!!


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24033436 - 01/23/17 04:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Coir usually has a very high salt content.
I bet the garden store brand is flushed and buffered better compared to ecoearth


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushboy]
    #24033447 - 01/23/17 04:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

ive found nails, bug body parts... finger nail chunks.. all kinds of shit in ecoearth.
the shit at the garden store is hella clean. and really really hard to break up.

eco can brake up by hand sometimes.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushboy]
    #24034557 - 01/23/17 11:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yea I just bought a few big blocks from another supplier and was disappointed to find that after bucket tek it was completely soaked because it didn't have enough fine coir to absorb all the water... So mileage may vary with the amount of water to add to different brands of coir. 
Brand is Coco Earth, I don't recommend.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #24035175 - 01/24/17 07:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I like the Exoterra stuff, once I bought coco coir from the garden store and then realized, when I was at home, that it's fertilized.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: AlCapone2k]
    #24050772 - 01/30/17 06:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Here some pictures of a - in my opinion - nice surface moisture. Pins are forming, still very small, but I think tomorrow or the day after I will increase FAE a bit by moving the upper Micropore-Tape of the upper holes :smile:



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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: AlCapone2k]
    #24050805 - 01/30/17 08:07 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Nice stuff AL! Got some fat knots there!


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24070172 - 02/06/17 05:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Updated the grow log portion

FEB 6 2017

Spawned a 66qt monotub with:
4.5 quarts PFC grain spawn
1 brick coir
2 quarts verm
4.5 quarts water



I used 2 quarts of the bulk sub as a casing layer.

Havent grown this variety before. Excited to see how the PF Classic performs


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24070210 - 02/06/17 06:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Sweet!  Do you replace the Tuck Tape with micropore or poly or just leave it?  Sorry if I've missed the explanation previously.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24070227 - 02/06/17 06:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'll be replacing with MP tape.
I use pastys default setup from his easy micropore dialed monos tek
Although I have been itching to try out unmodified  lately :lol:

There's a rough outline of the procedures in the demonstration portion of the OP


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24070286 - 02/06/17 06:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks, CBK! I was being lazy...I read back through and see the mp dial in.  Hope the tub blows up for ya!


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24070351 - 02/06/17 07:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks man! Meee too  :loldongs:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24085919 - 02/12/17 10:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Feb 12 2017

6 days after spawn


Beads of water have started to form on the surface of the substrate where the myc has popped through. The drops will continue to form grow after I fruit the tub.

The sub is fully colonized under the 2 quarts of casing but I'm still going to give it a couple more days before fruiting.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24086079 - 02/12/17 11:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My beads stick around until harvest

You know what I don't even think it's condensation, I feel like it is the mycelium pumping out water dewdrops... could be wrong though

Getting the surface moisture has made growing monos such a breeze... I've stopped misting entirely and just focus on dialing in the mono and knowing when to open up FAE and when to hold off. 

I think it helps that I run a humidifier in the room at 60%RH, I'm not sure how well this would work without that boost in humidity. 

Been having a hard time to get the dew to form around the perimeter of the tub, it's always a bit drier near the walls... I really don't want to start misting though


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