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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
#26406310 - 12/29/19 12:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Update: Left for vacation for 7 days and came back to a monotub literally filled to maximum capacity. I probably would have taken them a 1-2 days earlier though as they definitely dropped all spores. I'll get some pics up later. Thanks for the help!
2nd Flush: How long do you soak your tubs for your 2nd flushes? Do you find that you need to mist with this tek or just set and forgot after the soak, like the first flush?
Also, do you advise doing a 3rd flush?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: markclark]
#26406332 - 12/29/19 01:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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never bother soaking . Just mist to get surface glistening again if it needs and keep in fruiting conditions.
Sometimes can get 5 plus flushes with some monsters in the later ones.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Luminous7]
#26406668 - 12/29/19 05:25 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can soak em for 12-18 hours or opt to just mist them heavily (my preference because I'm lazy)
You can keep 'em around for as many flushes as you can/want before they go green or the sub just whithers away to nothing. I usually dont bother with anything past second flush personally
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
#26406756 - 12/29/19 06:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks man!
One more for you: so I used an exacto knife and cut each stem at the base during harvest. Now I have quite a few "stem stumps" hanging out in my mycelium. Should I pull these stem stumps out or cut these out before soaking/misting for the second flush?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: markclark]
#26406816 - 12/29/19 07:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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They will be fine
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
#26407717 - 12/30/19 12:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have the sub from my very first grow still going, it’s on flush number 6 right now. I keep thinking there’s no way it’ll keep going but I soak it and sure enough more pins show up in a couple days. It’s a shoebox and the last couple flushes were like 5 grams dry but at this point I just want to see how far it’ll go.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: A.k.a]
#26410645 - 01/01/20 09:09 AM (4 years, 29 days ago) |
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This is way too wet and wanted the fam to see this for comparison
Didn't have my glasses again... misted and then I took this pict ... ggrrr

Something this wrong with the Shroomery today guys. The picts are not popping up. First time i ever seen this
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: YogiBear]
#26410655 - 01/01/20 09:19 AM (4 years, 29 days ago) |
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At first I thought a couple people just messed up the upload, but now...
Must be y2k20 issues.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
#26411939 - 01/02/20 06:20 AM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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I'm coming back with some pics for you. My first monotub with this tek crushed it (GT), filling the entire tub to the max, my second tub with B+ is looking very sparse and not yielding. It also has this white/tannish fuzz on the top of a few caps. I was told in another thread this could be genetic. Any thoughts on why this B+ tub isn't yielding. I used the identical set-up for the GT tub as I did with this B+ tub. Maybe my conditions aren't dialed in?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: markclark]
#26411964 - 01/02/20 06:46 AM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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markclark said: I'm coming back with some pics for you. My first monotub with this tek crushed it (GT), filling the entire tub to the max, my second tub with B+ is looking very sparse and not yielding. It also has this white/tannish fuzz on the top of a few caps. I was told in another thread this could be genetic. Any thoughts on why this B+ tub isn't yielding. I used the identical set-up for the GT tub as I did with this B+ tub. Maybe my conditions aren't dialed in?

Not bad man! Looks like you got some fatties in there...
Did you weigh any of those wet?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: markclark]
#26411965 - 01/02/20 06:48 AM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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Sex-E!
Keep up the good work!!
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: YogiBear]
#26411973 - 01/02/20 06:56 AM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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So I followed this guide (atleast I think I did). I kept an eye out for those nice little beads of water which I had. I thought it looked good. I never misted it as they never evaporated.
But i obviously didnt have enough FAE because i ended up with pseudomonas bacteria everywhere.
So I know it tells you how to tell if its moist enough, but when should those water beads evaporate? How long do you want your sub looking like that?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
#26411980 - 01/02/20 07:04 AM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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I keep ending up with small fruits because over hydrated sub. I need to dial my coir prep in. I keep beads of water on the surface besides some shoeboxes in the corners.
Is it better to bottom water after first flush?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
#26411998 - 01/02/20 07:21 AM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
SpunkyMonkey88 said: So I followed this guide (atleast I think I did). I kept an eye out for those nice little beads of water which I had. I thought it looked good. I never misted it as they never evaporated.
But i obviously didnt have enough FAE because i ended up with pseudomonas bacteria everywhere.
So I know it tells you how to tell if its moist enough, but when should those water beads evaporate? How long do you want your sub looking like that?
I use 2" holes I'm my tubs and these days I fruit right at spawn for max FAE.
Depending on the culture I'm running the beads of moisture usually evaporate soon after full colonization and I mist frequently. Some cultures hold a lot of excess moisture on the surface and they never need a mist.
If your tub is bacterial it's because the spawn you used was bacterial.
Markclark I would guess genetics. Some cultures just don't perform IME
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#26412000 - 01/02/20 07:23 AM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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Hobbit GDF said: I keep ending up with small fruits because over hydrated sub. I need to dial my coir prep in. I keep beads of water on the surface besides some shoeboxes in the corners.
Is it better to bottom water after first flush?
I wouldn't bother with bottom watering first flush unless you have a rediculous pinset
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
#26412016 - 01/02/20 07:35 AM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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Yeah mark is that ms?
Surface and fruits look pretty good so that’s probably why.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: A.k.a]
#26412337 - 01/02/20 11:09 AM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Yeah mark is that ms?
Surface and fruits look pretty good so that’s probably why.
Thanks for checking it out. Yep, ms from syringe. I want up my level eventually to agar/cloning etc once I have the basics dialed in. You think the low yield is primarily due to the fact that is ms?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
#26412340 - 01/02/20 11:10 AM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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Thanks man. Question about misting after pins have formed. Do you mist after pins have formed? Is it good to mist when fruits are present?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: markclark]
#26412563 - 01/02/20 01:45 PM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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AFAIK the general rule with misting is once there are pins you want to mist as lightly as possible or it could cause aborts. With more mature fruits misting won’t hurt them as long as the water evaporates and doesn’t sit on the cap.
I always misted with pins from either a few feet above the tub or aim the mister straight in front of me so it falls down into the tub, and I never noticed problems. More recently I’ve gotten my sub prep dialed in and haven’t had to mist at all really. This is all for shoeboxes they’re all I’ve done.
With your grow I would guess it’s just a bad roll of the genetic dice but I’m not an expert. I’ve only done ms so far and had decent to great outcomes but I’ve seen threads about it where a huge mono grows like six mushrooms.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: A.k.a]
#26412914 - 01/02/20 04:45 PM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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Multi spore be like that sometimes
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