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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25313357 - 07/07/18 12:30 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I'm still finding it a bit tricky to dial in my surface moisture. There is some matting, which I believe suggests the surface is a bit too dry, but then there are pools of moisture here and there as well, which makes me reluctant to mist too much. When I do mist, the surface either has really tiny droplets or it just looks kind of shiny wet (particularly the matted areas), rather than getting the nice water droplets shown in the main post.

Here's a pic from earlier today:



I believe that's a hyphael knot forming there in the bottom center. There is a bit of green near it, which I'm guessing is from bruising (doesn't look like green fuzz to me). Does the surface look maybe slightly on the dry side?

More generally, is it annoying when people solicit input on individual grows in threads like this? Should I create my own thread for this purpose? Still learning the ropes around here and didn't want to piss people off.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: clan91]
    #25313696 - 07/07/18 03:54 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

That looks okay. not ideal. If theres excess moisture I tip my tub to 45 degrees, let it pool at one corner, and use a paper towel to absorb it all.

I dont see green.

This is a good thread to post your question, in a tek thread like this your question serves as an "example", either good or bad or a difficult question. if a future newbie reads your question and its responses they can better gauge things for themselves


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ManifoldPrime]
    #25314144 - 07/07/18 09:23 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Cool. Thanks for the input. By "not ideal" do you mean too dry?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: clan91]
    #25314330 - 07/08/18 01:42 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

The matting and the incosistence of the beading. Dont worry too much though, if your genetics arent terrible, spawn was clean and you dont baby it, it will fruit.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ManifoldPrime] * 1
    #25314668 - 07/08/18 09:32 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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The matting and the incosistence of the beading. Dont worry too much though, if your genetics arent terrible, spawn was clean and you dont baby it, it will fruit.




Ok. I've been misting it kind of a lot, which would probably qualify as babying :grin:

Left the lid slightly ajar last night and it looked pretty damn dry this morning already. Like, one of the matted areas had a small crack in it dry. That was after misting quite a few times yesterday and once right before leaving it for the night. Seems like I give it a good mist and come back a couple hours later and it already looks pretty dried out. Misting every couple hours seems excessive though.

Probably just going to leave the lid flipped but not on sideways (using unmodified tub), I guess. Apparently evaporation isn't an issue.

Thanks again for the input.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: clan91]
    #25315043 - 07/08/18 01:40 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

May serve to bottom water it with an inch or so, but no longer than 24 hours with the same water... seems once they dry out too much, they don't even hold water anymore


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25315055 - 07/08/18 01:48 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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May serve to bottom water it with an inch or so, but no longer than 24 hours with the same water... seems once they dry out too much, they don't even hold water anymore




So, run some water down the side of the tub until it reaches ~1 in on the sides and let it sit for a while (no more than 24 hrs) before draining?

Originally I wasn't really misting at all because there was some water pooling on the sides, in-between the sub and the tub wall. I figured this meant it was a bit over-saturated. But with the surface drying out so much, this seems unlikely. Now it seems like every time I look at it, it needs more misting.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: clan91]
    #25315425 - 07/08/18 05:12 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Seems to do the trick, let it dry out and repeat if needed... easier to drill a couple 1/8" holes (easier to tape with electrical lol) in one corner to drain, or tilt it if you're comfortable... I think I saw bod uses a siphon hose when he floats for harvest... I forget, has it fruited at all?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25315848 - 07/08/18 08:45 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Nope, no fruiting yet.

I wound up adding 2 cups of water to my larger tub (54 qt) and 1 cup to the smaller one (34 qt). Gonna let it sit and see how much is soaked up in the morning and drain if needed. I think I should be able to tip it and soak up any excess liquid with paper towels or something.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: clan91]
    #25316323 - 07/09/18 07:25 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds legit, let us know!


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25316364 - 07/09/18 08:09 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

The small tub absorbed a good amount of the 1 cup I added. I tipped and sucked the remainder out of the corner with a bulb syringe. Worked pretty good.

From the large tub, I sucked probably about a cup out, maybe slightly less (of 2 cups added). Water was in there for ~12 hrs. The water was yellowish in tint. From bacteria, I'm guessing. Not surprising, given the slow growth.

The surfaces still kind of look like shit, actually. In the larger tub in particular, it looks like there's a thin dry film over it, kind of like the film you get when you cook starchy grains and you let it sit out or something (maybe not that bad, but kind of like that).

So, I may have managed to fuck up BOD's EAF monotub TEK :smile: I'm still waiting for g2g jars to colonize though, so I figure it can't hurt to wait it out. Fingers crossed. I'd be happy with some fucked up, gnarly side pins at this point. Or maybe one good mushroom that I can clone.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: clan91]
    #25316517 - 07/09/18 10:18 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

If it's not molded yet, you'll probably get SOMETHING


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25316698 - 07/09/18 12:15 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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If it's not molded yet, you'll probably get SOMETHING




Well, that's good to know. Fingers crossed.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #25752034 - 01/18/19 05:30 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

Thanks for the write up!! 

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: newtomyc]
    #25842378 - 02/27/19 09:07 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Just wanted to say thanks to Cck for this writeup.  Changed my whole game.  Getting MUCH better pinsets lately.  For me, I get my first natural glisten on and it seems to evap slow enough to trigger the first pins. I get my glisten back on and repeat and bam! More pins. 



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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #25854920 - 03/05/19 06:48 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I’ve always spawned and put my tubs into fruiting conditions immediately- never had perfect even pinsets and I think now I might try this tek with my next monotub and see if it improves!
Thanks for the writeup


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Ajr12100] * 1
    #25860216 - 03/08/19 06:46 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

So happy to hear this thread is still helping people dial in their tubs:grin:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
    #25921938 - 04/07/19 08:15 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I wish I found this thread months ago :facepalm3:
No more neglecting boxes.. next ones are going to be proper.  :takingnotes: :thumbup:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: staytrippy420]
    #25977237 - 05/07/19 06:50 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Possibly the greatest thread ever.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Roshambastic21]
    #25998320 - 05/17/19 04:41 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I read shroomy a long time ago

Decided to subscribe just to say thanks for this post.

I learn lots of things with it.

Thank all of u !

Now my Unmodified Mono is like this right now





Any coments about the pics ?

is that the point of the moisture or it is a little wet ?

Thank u !
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