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Munchauzen


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
#25174360 - 04/29/18 08:16 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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mushrooms benefit from light during all stages of life. 6500K cool blue lights are ideal. or natural indirect sunlight.
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Enkidu
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
#25174361 - 04/29/18 08:16 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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They might not "need" it but they sure as hell appreciate it.
I wish mushboy would pop up with his pics.
He has some tubs he did with no light and they fucking sucked.
I would recommend light, but it looks like that may not be the only issue going on unfortunately.
Have you made your own thread in Mush Cult ? I definitely think that pic deserves its own thread.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Enkidu]
#25174432 - 04/29/18 08:50 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, you're right,man. It's completely failed tubs as the first time I try without much research. Hope could do better next time.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
#25174454 - 04/29/18 09:00 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Grab a 6500k light like Munch said.
Put it on a 12 hours on /12 off cycle.
Make sure when you spawn your tubs you have the correct field capacity in your sub.
Did you spawn to coco coir? What was your spawn made out of?
Did you use a top layer / casing layer?
Did you read this tek? Your surface conditions look rather dry IMO.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Enkidu]
#25174458 - 04/29/18 09:03 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also is that a mono?
Am I wrong or does he need more water and air Munch?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Enkidu]
#25174482 - 04/29/18 09:19 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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How about if I setting this for now? Is that ok or any improved?
Substrate was made of coco coir. And i did have layer on top. I don't know about the light. Some said yes, some said no. I didn't start off with light. Next try, i will set up at the beginning.
In this case, anything I can do to save it?

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Enkidu said: Grab a 6500k light like Munch said.
Put it on a 12 hours on /12 off cycle.
Make sure when you spawn your tubs you have the correct field capacity in your sub.
Did you spawn to coco coir? What was your spawn made out of?
Did you use a top layer / casing layer?
Did you read this tek? Your surface conditions look rather dry IMO.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
#25174548 - 04/29/18 10:04 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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You leave the lid off?
When did you spawn it?
Do you have a spray bottle mister?
Was your sub field capacity ? The Coco coir. Field capacity means proper water content. If you squeeze a handful of your coir it should have a few drops fall out or a small trinkle of water.
I'm guessing your sub is dry as fuck and I'm wondering how long and in what conditions it has been.
If you have a place where the tub can get indirect sunlight I would put it there.
I would mist the sub, follow the tek on page 1 of this thread for misting.
Depending on what you respond you may need to give more water to your sub.
Put the lid on after you mist the sub.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
#25174695 - 04/30/18 01:15 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks like slight lack of fae and weak first flush. Give more air and more light. They will grow towards the light but looks like these guys are searching for air. The black ones will most likely fully abort. Make sure to pick them before they rot. I️ see tons of knots and pins coming in if you can keep that fae right you’ll have a nice full flush in a few days. Get a hygrometer and fan every few hours making sure the humidity never leaves 90%. You may need to mist to counter the extra fanning. I️ wouldnt normally fan but this will keep the rest of your pins from stalling. You don’t want to dry it out. Just get air in there a little more.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
#25174697 - 04/30/18 01:19 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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That’s exactly how it’s done. Patience is key. Most people mess up by lacking patience. Results are never immediate. You’ll learn very quickly to read the mycelium. Keep I️t up! I️ order my micropore from shroomsupply along with whatever else I️ need since there is a minimum $6 shipping. It’s cheaper there than ebay or amazon for the 1” 3M micro
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
#25174699 - 04/30/18 01:22 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Alot of people have success due to random minute variables or luck, however I️ always use my old reptile uvb bulbs. The light spectrum is blue goweber they emit uva and uvb mimicking the sun. I️ have always found that mushrooms grow stronger juicier and heavier from real sunlight. Def add some light to that tub. They’ll thank you with a bigger flush. If you don’t have uvb get a 6500k cfl from Home Depot. Can’t be more than $10 for a few of them.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Enkidu]
#25174702 - 04/30/18 01:30 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Enkidu is right. I️t looks like your moisture content could be off which isn’t game over. Your mycelium isn’t blue on top which tells me I️t never got too dry. Try adding more fae and a little light making sure your sub stays slightly moist. Don’t leave the tub open I️t will dry out in hours. The more water droplets resting on your sub the more FAE you will need. The drops are good for forming pins but you’ll need to assist their growth with fae and light. You’ll watch them literally soak up all the water. Without the fae the water will stand and you’ll get craters like I see. The wirey mycelium says I️t was too wet in there at one time/not enough fae, but not too wet to rot or turn blue. This tub actually looks saveable. Learn to read the mycelium and you’ll do jst great.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
#25174704 - 04/30/18 01:32 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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There are hundreds of primordia ready to mature if you can get the conditions right you’ll see pins in days or less.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Greenthumbs]
#25174756 - 04/30/18 03:04 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just put my box in another chamber with perlite at bottom and set up 1 20W - 6500K Led light on the top of the lid.
I see the Humid Meter going up to 97% at 28oC. Do you think this is going to help my mushroom?

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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
#25174772 - 04/30/18 03:23 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pick the heads that are turning black. Pick all your fully fruiting mushies how you like them. Give any pins 2-3 days to mature if they’re going to abort bybthen they’ll start turning black. Then pick everything. Soak for 45 minutes, and start your second flush with the conditions perfect. If you fan properly you shouldn’t have to put I️t in a chamber. It’s not the light so much as I️t is the relative humidity/moisture content of your sub with just the right FAE. You’re trying to use a monotub with SFC holes sonits not a surprise you’re having a little issue.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Greenthumbs]
#25174774 - 04/30/18 03:26 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Drill 3 inch holes on each side of your tub, fill with polyfill or cover with micropore tape, and put the lid on. That will fix all your problems. 2 inch holes would be fine. I️ always do bigger tubs with 3 1/2 inch holes stuffed with polyfill.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Greenthumbs]
#25174777 - 04/30/18 03:29 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just have an idea that i going to move the substrate out of that small box and I leave them on perlite. Is that gonna help with the air and solve the hole issue?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Dr.Greenthumbs]
#25175169 - 04/30/18 09:03 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dr.Greenthumbs said: Drill 3 inch holes on each side of your tub, fill with polyfill or cover with micropore tape, and put the lid on. That will fix all your problems. 2 inch holes would be fine. I️ always do bigger tubs with 3 1/2 inch holes stuffed with polyfill.
You mean drill 2-inch holes on bigger one? How many? 2 for each sides? Does position of the hole matter?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
#25175248 - 04/30/18 10:21 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would just leave it as is you have holes already.
Give light, keep humidity high, 28 Celsius? Probably want it closer to 24, mist the top as shown in the first page of this thread.
Are there holes in the top and bottom of the tub too and is it raised off the table to allow air to pass?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Enkidu]
#25176385 - 04/30/18 08:11 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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There are holes on top, but not the bottom.
I keep the light 12/24 now. I'm not sure if the humidity meets requirement or not but the digital meter always shows humidity at 95%. But there are a lot of mush boy with black heads coming up. Is it okay?
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Enkidu said: I would just leave it as is you have holes already.
Give light, keep humidity high, 28 Celsius? Probably want it closer to 24, mist the top as shown in the first page of this thread.
Are there holes in the top and bottom of the tub too and is it raised off the table to allow air to pass?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: lacaigicungdc]
#25177271 - 05/01/18 07:37 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Black heads sound like aborts but hopefully not
Humidity is fine. Humidity will be higher at the surface of the substrate.
Have you been misting ?
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