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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Munchauzen]
    #25119699 - 04/06/18 10:08 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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If the sub needs water, you need to give it water. There is no 'stop misting at X'. You need to observe your substrate and respond to it. You will notice when the fruits come in, they do help maintain humidity levels, so you can expect to mist less or stop when you have fruits. But its not a situation where you can say 'ok I have fruits, now stop misting.' You still need to look at the substrate and make the judgement call, and thats what Bod did when his fruits were 1" tall. It wasn't 'stop misting because fruits are 1" or anything, he just stopped because the sub didn't need it. I hope I didn't make that too complicated.




Not too complicated at all; thank you for your response. I should have been more clear as well - I'm sure if BOD said that, he was referring to a specific time using his own "unmodified tub tek", which I am also using. I'll keep the moisture on my substrate consistent as outlined in this thread.

Thanks again!


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: shroomflow] * 3
    #25124651 - 04/08/18 11:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

If you are having a hard time seeing if your sub has moisture on top, get a flashlight and shine it through the edge of your tub at substrate level. Very easy to see water droplets that way. Works for me.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Cybin_man]
    #25126163 - 04/09/18 03:50 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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If you are having a hard time seeing if your sub has moisture on top, get a flashlight and shine it through the edge of your tub at substrate level. Very easy to see water droplets that way. Works for me.



Nice tip!:super:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushroomnate]
    #25146512 - 04/17/18 07:45 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)



It's uncased. What do you think? Look at the edges. Should I add a little water or just light mist the sides?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: JiM aYYYY]
    #25147397 - 04/18/18 06:32 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Mehm? It seems like it's at least the minimum moisture - seeing that you have condensation  on the sides- unless that's a result of your missing - but, there looks to be healthy growth  development so...

But... - and, maybe this read mentioned already -  but where are your air exchange poly-filled holes on the sides?? :P
A great easy to tell if you have the right amount of humidity -and more than likely, moisture -  is to see condensation built up on the sides of your FC. And if there is condensation everywhere with three exception of having dry spots directly under each poly-stuffed hole - which shows good air exchange  - FAE


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: JiM aYYYY]
    #25147400 - 04/18/18 06:34 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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It's uncased. What do you think? Look at the edges. Should I add a little water or just light mist the sides?




Don't mist the sides. Water is NOT the only reason they shrink. Substrates also shrink from the mycelium digesting the food.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Langcology]
    #25147405 - 04/18/18 06:36 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Mehm? It seems like it's at least the minimum moisture - seeing that you have condensation  on the sides- unless that's a result of your missing - but, there looks to be healthy growth  development so...

But... - and, maybe this read mentioned already -  but where are your air exchange poly-filled holes on the sides?? :P
A great easy to tell if you have the right amount of humidity -and more than likely, moisture -  is to see condensation built up on the sides of your FC. And if there is condensation everywhere with three exception of having dry spots directly under each poly-stuffed hole - which shows good air exchange  - FAE




Bro that's a 6qt shoebox, not a mono tub. No holes for a shoebox grow, the lid provides all the FAE need.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #25147603 - 04/18/18 09:21 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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It's uncased. What do you think? Look at the edges. Should I add a little water or just light mist the sides?




Don't mist the sides. Water is NOT the only reason they shrink. Substrates also shrink from the mycelium digesting the food.





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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: JiM aYYYY]
    #25147679 - 04/18/18 09:58 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I almost added more water. Would be a big mistake to do so. I didn't even think about the mycellium shrink. Thanks again man saved my grow from being ruined hahaha now though I do think I over misted seeing some yellow liquid on the side now. I need to let it evaporate or risk further contamination


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: JiM aYYYY]
    #25147769 - 04/18/18 10:43 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)


so this happened overnight. Any idea what I can do? It's just that side and I absorbed almost all of it already on a paper towel and looks good moisture beads on top


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: JiM aYYYY]
    #25148909 - 04/18/18 06:27 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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so this happened overnight. Any idea what I can do? It's just that side and I absorbed almost all of it already on a paper towel and looks good moisture beads on top



it just looks like the bottom of a shoebox. what exactly is your problem?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Munchauzen]
    #25149005 - 04/18/18 06:52 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I think the corner is side pins.

I think really the only solution to offer is work on surface conditions :shrug:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Munchauzen]
    #25149059 - 04/18/18 07:05 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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so this happened overnight. Any idea what I can do? It's just that side and I absorbed almost all of it already on a paper towel and looks good moisture beads on top



it just looks like the bottom of a shoebox. what exactly is your problem?



Lol I will take that as a good thing.the edge has yellow metabolites that I just fully understand today on what that sort of means haha but I got some of the excess water out and let the rest evaporate and all looks great now just have to keep that steady beads of moisture on the surface but so far that hasn't been a problem just only concerned me because the substrate was shrinking from the walls because I didn't line it and it's my first one so just barely getting a real concept on using Showbox Tek and now I want to try a dubtub for my next to compare. But mostly want monotub going. But small steps first and alot of fails haha


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: JiM aYYYY]
    #25149108 - 04/18/18 07:19 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Oh. It was fine. No need to soak that up.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Munchauzen]
    #25149211 - 04/18/18 07:43 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Right I found out it was more beneficial for it than just my mycellium is being attacked by something and slowly dying so I tried to do something before it got worse with something I didn't know about. Then I researched what it was just in case it came back. But hey all is good I guess


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: JiM aYYYY]
    #25149300 - 04/18/18 08:15 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Well I've been messing around trying to get the whole bulk down, and I'm thinking this has a bit more promise.  9 days in with a close-up in the second pic. What do you all think?


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Shineonyoucrazy]
    #25151357 - 04/19/18 05:47 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)



Is this looking ok? Been trying to bring up moisture back up slowly. I don't want to oversaturate the surface. I've tried looking up bottom watering but I haven't found a good explanation yet.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: JiM aYYYY]
    #25151572 - 04/19/18 06:52 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Bottom watering is as simple as pouring a few oz of water down the sides to the bottom. Let set about 30 min and pour off ANY water left standing in the bottom.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #25154400 - 04/20/18 11:25 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Right I just thought it might make the mycellium stall if it was done like that so I didn't do that because it will take like another week to get going again that's just my take on what other people said. I'm just going to keep the misting on the hour haha until it doesn't need it of course.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Kizzle]
    #25155661 - 04/21/18 03:14 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

kizzle, does this look like bacterial blotching?  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25155642/vc/1#25155642


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