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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushroomnate] 1
#24938031 - 01/24/18 07:33 AM (6 years, 4 days ago) |
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I am linking this thread all the time for noobs. Can we get it a sticky in MC???
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24958862 - 02/01/18 04:36 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Great stuff! Thanks
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: OranguTrump]
#24991892 - 02/13/18 05:19 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm a noob!
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: noobextreme]
#25053732 - 03/10/18 05:46 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Great write-up, thanking you!
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: sherlockeddoor]
#25100619 - 03/29/18 08:03 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok.... I'm having a hard time understanding when my substrate needs watering... there doesn't seem to be a concrete indicator of whether or not my substrate is getting to dry and I need to mist...
The best thing I've picked up on is if it's dark brown its moist and if it's light brown it's dry. But I've looked at substrates and think they need watering and had other people tell me that they're soaked and I was also told that if it's damp you won't see moisture beads when you missed it?
I was missing the s*** out of my Subs like 2 to 3 times a day and I think I overdid it and f***** up my pin set.
Now I haven't missed it in two and a half days and I could really really use some guidance on what to look for when to mist and when not to mist.
.. I feel like if I miss too much I'm going to abort my pin set and if I don't missed enough then the pins aren't going to grow either. Like I said I haven't missed it in two and a half days and here are some pictures of my shoe boxes. If anyone could take a look and tell me what their opinion is as far as it being to dry or too moist please let me know I'm really trying to understand in my mind when it needs it.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: voodoochild1000]
#25102812 - 03/30/18 05:28 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here is my uncased tub I birthed 3 days ago on Mar 27. I used 4.25 quarts of water instead of 4.5 quarts per brick of coir because last time my sub seemed too wet. I don't see any beads on the surface. Do I need to mist? I haven't introduced FAE yet, the holes are sealed. 
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: senseit]
#25103279 - 03/30/18 09:14 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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senseit said: Here is my uncased tub I birthed 3 days ago on Mar 27. I used 4.25 quarts of water instead of 4.5 quarts per brick of coir because last time my sub seemed too wet. I don't see any beads on the surface. Do I need to mist? I haven't introduced FAE yet, the holes are sealed. 

No.Close the lid and let it colonize.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: voodoochild1000]
#25103332 - 03/30/18 09:49 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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voodoochild1000 said: Ok.... I'm having a hard time understanding when my substrate needs watering... there doesn't seem to be a concrete indicator of whether or not my substrate is getting to dry and I need to mist...
The best thing I've picked up on is if it's dark brown its moist and if it's light brown it's dry. But I've looked at substrates and think they need watering and had other people tell me that they're soaked and I was also told that if it's damp you won't see moisture beads when you missed it?
I was missing the s*** out of my Subs like 2 to 3 times a day and I think I overdid it and f***** up my pin set.
Now I haven't missed it in two and a half days and I could really really use some guidance on what to look for when to mist and when not to mist.
.. I feel like if I miss too much I'm going to abort my pin set and if I don't missed enough then the pins aren't going to grow either. Like I said I haven't missed it in two and a half days and here are some pictures of my shoe boxes. If anyone could take a look and tell me what their opinion is as far as it being to dry or too moist please let me know I'm really trying to understand in my mind when it needs it.

I'm no expert on surface conditions.Still learning.But I have noticed it's easier for me to over water when using a top layer.(casing)I can't see the beads.It soaks into the top layer.Best thing I've learned so far is less is better.I try not to mist at all til after the first flush.If I do,it's lightly.It was a challenge and I misted more often over the winter months,(heater on)but now,I've been able to just let then sit.Try NOT to mist as much as possible.I've waterlogged and ruined more than enough pinsets by thinking the same thing as you.("no droplets?")These shoeboxes have not been misted once since spawn on 3/12.Pins are just starting up.
 Like I said,I'm still learning and experimenting,and not the expert.Just giving my 2 cents.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: TheMadHatter420] 1
#25103346 - 03/30/18 10:00 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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TheMadHatter420 said: I am linking this thread all the time for noobs. Can we get it a sticky in MC???
jesus christ please
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Munchauzen]
#25103400 - 03/30/18 10:50 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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sticky go!
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushroomnate]
#25103560 - 03/31/18 01:14 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushroomnate said:
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voodoochild1000 said: Ok.... I'm having a hard time understanding when my substrate needs watering... there doesn't seem to be a concrete indicator of whether or not my substrate is getting to dry and I need to mist...
The best thing I've picked up on is if it's dark brown its moist and if it's light brown it's dry. But I've looked at substrates and think they need watering and had other people tell me that they're soaked and I was also told that if it's damp you won't see moisture beads when you missed it?
I was missing the s*** out of my Subs like 2 to 3 times a day and I think I overdid it and f***** up my pin set.
Now I haven't missed it in two and a half days and I could really really use some guidance on what to look for when to mist and when not to mist.
.. I feel like if I miss too much I'm going to abort my pin set and if I don't missed enough then the pins aren't going to grow either. Like I said I haven't missed it in two and a half days and here are some pictures of my shoe boxes. If anyone could take a look and tell me what their opinion is as far as it being to dry or too moist please let me know I'm really trying to understand in my mind when it needs it.

I'm no expert on surface conditions.Still learning.But I have noticed it's easier for me to over water when using a top layer.(casing)I can't see the beads.It soaks into the top layer.Best thing I've learned so far is less is better.I try not to mist at all til after the first flush.If I do,it's lightly.It was a challenge and I misted more often over the winter months,(heater on)but now,I've been able to just let then sit.Try NOT to mist as much as possible.I've waterlogged and ruined more than enough pinsets by thinking the same thing as you.("no droplets?")These shoeboxes have not been misted once since spawn on 3/12.Pins are just starting up.
 Like I said,I'm still learning and experimenting,and not the expert.Just giving my 2 cents.
...good info
.... I still don't know how good I am at looking at it and determining if it's too moist or not but the one thing I know is I definitely missed it too much this last time so I'll be doing like you say and just leave the lid on until that first flushes in and then maybe very light missing after that but going for no misting at all until the first flush is in
...thanks for info...best wishes
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Ziran]
#25104252 - 03/31/18 11:13 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said:
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TheMadHatter420 said: I am linking this thread all the time for noobs. Can we get it a sticky in MC???
jesus christ please
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Ziran said:
sticky go!
Thank you mods
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Ziran]
#25104274 - 03/31/18 11:22 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think I have been torturin my shoeboxes. My spray bottle was a windex reuse. I have used soap and even bleach, but overnight that fragrance leeches out of the plastic. I feel very foolish...
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Failboat] 1
#25105102 - 03/31/18 05:20 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: I think I have been torturin my shoeboxes. My spray bottle was a windex reuse. I have used soap and even bleach, but overnight that fragrance leeches out of the plastic. I feel very foolish...
...damn...best wishes....call it a learning experience...
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: voodoochild1000]
#25105927 - 04/01/18 01:57 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Glad too see this stickied.
Is this in getting started as well?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: van hatton]
#25107070 - 04/01/18 05:51 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Great stickie Mods!! This is one of the most referred threads out there.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Shrooms4life]
#25116445 - 04/05/18 05:30 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I figured there would be more questions, considering how frequently its been brought up lately
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Munchauzen]
#25116522 - 04/05/18 05:56 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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When using a casing/top layer/pseudo casing are we looking for the beads of water on the surface of the casing?Or should it just be misted when it looks dry?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushroomnate]
#25119331 - 04/06/18 06:59 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Someone said a few pages back that BOD stops misting after the pins are one inch. Do you completely stop misting until the first flush is completed and harvested?
Thanks for putting this thread together, it has helped me immensely.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: shroomflow] 1
#25119343 - 04/06/18 07:03 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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If the sub needs water, you need to give it water. There is no 'stop misting at X'. You need to observe your substrate and respond to it. You will notice when the fruits come in, they do help maintain humidity levels, so you can expect to mist less or stop when you have fruits. But its not a situation where you can say 'ok I have fruits, now stop misting.' You still need to look at the substrate and make the judgement call, and thats what Bod did when his fruits were 1" tall. It wasn't 'stop misting because fruits are 1" or anything, he just stopped because the sub didn't need it. I hope I didn't make that too complicated.
Edited by Munchauzen (04/06/18 07:57 PM)
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