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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid] 1
#24000357 - 01/11/17 06:55 AM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Is this too dry or is this moisture on the surface ok?
No pins yet ..


It's the same mono, one picutre with lightning one without
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
#24000796 - 01/11/17 10:52 AM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Thank you very much.
But now i am a Bit confused, since it's also Stated in this Thread, that a drying out surface is a pinning trigger or is it meint when the pinning has already started?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: projectbadass]
#24001106 - 01/11/17 12:48 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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thank you very much pasty!
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
#24003574 - 01/12/17 09:58 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Overnight the droplets on the surface / beds of moisture disappeared because I increased FAE (some fanning).
Therefore I misted this morning and the surface moisture disappears after half a hour so I misted again. I overmisted it a bit so I tilted the whole mono to get rid of the water on the surface.
Now it seems quite ok.
But I cant establish these small droplets on the surface anymore. When I mist, the surface gets glistening wet but there are no droplets.
Am I doing something wrong or is everything fine? Is it to wet in the corners? To dry in the middle? What can I do?
Here some pictures:

These black parts of the substrate on the three right pictures are only shadows from my arms holding the camera
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Edited by AlCapone2k (01/12/17 09:59 AM)
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Psilosoulful]
#24003636 - 01/12/17 10:18 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Actually I don't have a fan
If I fan it to increase the FAE, I'll get a quite dry surface in the middle.
Any idea how to do it without a fan?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid]
#24003866 - 01/12/17 11:50 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Mad Season said: Just keep it as is and get to practicing that misting. It takes practice but you will get it right. Once the surface dries, you'll find you gotta mist at least once a day.
thank you, I hope I haven't messed up the whole mono tub now and I will get some fruits eventhough the moisture is not perfect
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ComebackKid said: If the surface is drying out in a half hour I would tighten up the holes a bit monotubs are suposed to be generally low maintenance. If you're misting every half hour your not dialed in properly.
When misting you want to mist from far away and let the mist gently fall on the surface. They should bead up on their own. If you mist too close you risk pooling.
EDIT: I wrote this before I saw Mad's comment. Obviously take his advice. Although, I would advise against a fan. A properly dialed in monotub will circulate fresh air all on its own. No need to over-complicate anything by adding extra variables. Like Mad said leave it for now and focus on one thing at a time
The holes are really, really tight. I can't get them more tight, the poly can't even move a bit inside the hole. I think the problem is, that since yesterday I am fanning twice or three times a day to maintain FAE, because it seemed that my sub didn't get enough FAE.
Therefore the RH inside the mono was very low the whole day and I had to mist a lot.
So you also recommend like Mad to just take an eye on the surface and if it dries out, give it a slight mist?!
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Pastywhyte]
#24003993 - 01/12/17 12:49 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Thank you guys, I will keep you updated.
Sorry CCK for hijacking your thread but I think the answers to my questions could also help future guys reading in this thread!
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Pastywhyte]
#24004069 - 01/12/17 01:17 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Don't even worry about fanning a mono. The heat from the substrate cycles the air.
And what is with misting? I know that it should be alright if dialed in correctly, but if the surface dries out, shall I mist it eventhough I believe to see some hyphal knots?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid] 1
#24004657 - 01/12/17 04:17 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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I also experienced, that it's easier to Maintain a good Surface moisture, when you don't fruit at spawning.
And thank you to your answers, I hope I wont do anything wrong
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Mycolorado] 1
#24008871 - 01/14/17 04:33 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Hey guys,
what do you think?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: spore-ty] 1
#24022712 - 01/19/17 11:28 AM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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threw it away guys, got a light sour smell
I'll going to start the next mono in a few minutes, this time with micropore tape. My dry house does not allow me to dial it in right wih Poly
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid] 1
#24023005 - 01/19/17 01:56 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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Yeah, I thought so too, but if I think back, the spawn was a bit suspicious.
I noticed that when I shook my spawn right now before spawning into CVG, the rye berries separated from each other very easily. This wasn't that easy with the rye berries of the tub on the picture. So maybe the spawn was the fault for this sour smell.
I think this Tub will be better now, it looks really good and is now in colonization mode with a small pseudo-casing of CVG
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: ComebackKid] 2
#24023262 - 01/19/17 03:35 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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Yeah, I also was waiting for mold to come but nothing happened. Actually I live in Small Students Apartment and I can't risk to have mold spores flying around Here. So I throw stuff away a Bit early maybe.
Whatever, it's shit genetic anyway, had a tub with the Same genetic that didnt fruit after 30days of fruitung
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: mushboy] 1
#24029616 - 01/22/17 03:31 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Why what?
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Thedillestpickle] 1
#24035175 - 01/24/17 05:28 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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I like the Exoterra stuff, once I bought coco coir from the garden store and then realized, when I was at home, that it's fertilized.
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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: AlCapone2k] 1
#24050772 - 01/30/17 04:53 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Here some pictures of a - in my opinion - nice surface moisture. Pins are forming, still very small, but I think tomorrow or the day after I will increase FAE a bit by moving the upper Micropore-Tape of the upper holes
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