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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Kizzle] * 2
    #23999451 - 01/10/17 08:40 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

I like to have a good amount of surface moisture while waiting for the pins to set up. Whether you use a mister, a casing or a little less passive FAE to accomplish this, once the pins are in you definitely want the fae dialed up to promote healthy development.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: AlCapone2k] * 3
    #24000820 - 01/11/17 11:00 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Evaporation from the surface is a pinning trigger. Drying out causes death of the substrate. As the evaporation occurs you need to ensure the surface is still moist. With bulk often the heat produced by the sub can produce more condensation to be evaporated. If the FAE is too high then the surface can indeed dry out too much.

One of the reasons cakes are a great way to learn is because they stress the principle that we only mist when water from the previous mist has dissipated. But we need to ensure we mist enough so the cakes do not dry out.

With bulk it's no different except that much of our RH is supplied by the substrate rather than a chamber. But the cycle is the same.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: AlCapone2k]
    #24003900 - 01/12/17 12:06 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Don't even worry about fanning a mono. The heat from the substrate cycles the air.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: AlCapone2k]
    #24004073 - 01/12/17 01:18 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

If it's dry mist it. You can then dial it in for less FAE but always mist if it appears to be drying out.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Mad Season] * 1
    #24004114 - 01/12/17 01:31 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Hey mad. . . It's yer climate :wink:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: esse_jeremy]
    #24550570 - 08/13/17 12:21 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

As long as they aren't pooling it's fine.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: clan91]
    #25300635 - 06/30/18 11:08 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Looks unhealthy. That's some weak recovery on those grains. Watch out for green.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: clan91]
    #25300695 - 06/30/18 11:38 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Oats always look weak imo but that second pic looks a tad better. Just cross your fingers.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26392611 - 12/20/19 03:00 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I love this thread :rockon:


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Niceguy42] * 1
    #26841403 - 07/23/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Awesome write up and thread. One question though. You mention waiting for the substrate to colonize with duct tape or similar over the holes. Are you misting at all during this or just waiting until you start fruiting to mist?

I spawned my tub on monday and while there is condensation on the walls I dont see any small droplets on the substrate.







IME it takes a little time for the heat to build up enough to see real condensation to form. Insane mike did some testing way back with different monotub configurations, he got pretty deep down the rabbit hole. One of the things he discovered was that the temp seemed to rise quickly when more O2 was introduced and CO2 allowed to exhaust off. He did a lot of different things, was a pretty good round of experiments. I felt like not enough people were paying attention.

Anyways I started to introduce fruiting conditions at spawning and immediately noticed higher temps in the tubs during the spawn run. It then seemed to actually help the condensation form better in the long run. All I would say is be smart and if things are noticeably dry during the spawn run you need to mist it ASAP and then get shit dialed in better.

If that were my tub I’d rip that duct tape off, get some micropore on, hit the surface with a super gentle mist and keep an eye on it.


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Re: Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE [Re: Josborne] * 2
    #27128072 - 01/05/21 11:58 AM (3 years, 22 days ago)

I’m not sure how you’re going to not touch a mono until second or third flush no matter how well you dial it in. How are you going to harvest the first flush? At the least misting after you harvest a first flush cannot be that much of an inconvenience.


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