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Downside of widespread cannabis legalization
    #23998339 - 01/10/17 02:02 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Let's face it: The DEA's biggest cash cow is busting cannabis related crimes. They get funding for it and they get to steal from the people they bust. Once that is no longer an option do you think there will be more heat on formally less scrutinized behavior? Like what goes on here at The Shroomery?


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: berlinmyc] * 2
    #23998349 - 01/10/17 02:07 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

I think that sites like the Shroomery are protected under the first amendment. I could be wrong, though. I don't see total legalization for the next four years with that crew Trump is bringing in. If Sessions makes it to attorney general, he may even shut down the states that have made it legal real quick like.


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: Le_Canard]
    #23998462 - 01/10/17 02:53 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

What do you mean exactly? The legalization of cannabis will only give the DEA more work, because when its legalized it will be more illegal to grow it, meaning they'll only have more work because people growing weed will infringe upon, "their" buissiness.


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: whitelights]
    #23998470 - 01/10/17 02:59 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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What do you mean exactly? The legalization of cannabis will only give the DEA more work, because when its legalized it will be more illegal to grow it, meaning they'll only have more work because people growing weed will infringe upon, "their" buissiness.




It's already legal to grow weed in Massachusetts. It's still going to over a year before retail stores can sell it.


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: Le_Canard] * 1
    #23998509 - 01/10/17 03:17 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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Le_Canard said:
I think that sites like the Shroomery are protected under the first amendment. I could be wrong, though. I don't see total legalization for the next four years with that crew Trump is bringing in. If Sessions makes it to attorney general, he may even shut down the states that have made it legal real quick like.




helluvalot of people post pictures of their grow ops n shit, i dont think that's protected under the 1st Amendment


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: berlinmyc]
    #23998517 - 01/10/17 03:22 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

I've had the same thoughts as the op. My guess is that mushrooms and LSD/ other analogs will be scrutinized more because they are still schedule 1. The cops need to keep patting themselves on the back for cleaning up society and ridding it of these horrible chems. Plus make budget. I certainly wouldn't be putting out any pics of huge mushroom grows in the cultivation forum...IDK, maybe I'm a bit paranoid but just check out some of the newsfeed articles on busted mushroom grows....these poor dudes get slammed hard especially when they weigh the jars and include that in the overall bust.

The one thing that is true is that these cops that are usually busting people for pot will have more time on their hands.....what they do with it is the unknown.


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23998567 - 01/10/17 03:54 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

They'll probably just have more time and resources to focus on hard drugs(cocaine,heroin etc) would they all of sudden focus on psychedelics and other drugs that barely anyone does anyway?


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: Mad_Larkin] * 3
    #23998674 - 01/10/17 04:32 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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Le_Canard said:
I think that sites like the Shroomery are protected under the first amendment. I could be wrong, though. I don't see total legalization for the next four years with that crew Trump is bringing in. If Sessions makes it to attorney general, he may even shut down the states that have made it legal real quick like.




helluvalot of people post pictures of their grow ops n shit, i dont think that's protected under the 1st Amendment



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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: berlinmyc]
    #23998700 - 01/10/17 04:41 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Meth, coke, and heroin keeps the DEA busy plenty and they prefer making those kind of busts anyway.


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #23998744 - 01/10/17 04:57 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

if the DEA gets stronger...then wow, who cares?

nothing gets done to remove that which is lies and nonsense from the political system.

:shrug: oh well. who cares. lies are what people love.


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23998770 - 01/10/17 05:04 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Huh?


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #23998854 - 01/10/17 05:29 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

my post had nothing to do with your referencing the DEA, to note.

i was just saying (if i was to reiterate) that if they start going after legal states, and trying to crack down on pot, then people are gonna take it...and that's sad.


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: MagicMush123]
    #23999586 - 01/10/17 09:30 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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whitelights said:
What do you mean exactly? The legalization of cannabis will only give the DEA more work, because when its legalized it will be more illegal to grow it, meaning they'll only have more work because people growing weed will infringe upon, "their" buissiness.



Once it is mainstream I believe it would be regulated by the ATF and it won't necessarily be over funded by drug war paranoia dollars. I haven't seen any news of high profile tobacco busts by the ATF. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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They'll probably just have more time and resources to focus on hard drugs(cocaine,heroin etc) would they all of sudden focus on psychedelics and other drugs that barely anyone does anyway?



The same reason the DEA love's to bust "marijuana criminals." They tend to be more peaceful than those involved with the harder stuff. Though perhaps I am just stereotyping.
  All I'm trying to say is there may be a bit more heat. Mushrooms kind of fly under the radar most of the time now but when police departments loose their incentives for pot busts... Guess who might be putting a bit more pressure on the kid they caught with some shrooms.


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #23999925 - 01/10/17 11:47 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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ONE OZ SLUG said:
Meth, coke, and heroin keeps the DEA busy plenty and they prefer making those kind of busts anyway.




i dunno man... ever see this little gem?



DEA agent seems pretty serious about keeping marijuana illegal :lol:


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: 404]
    #24000035 - 01/11/17 12:51 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

I bet mister good guy went for a nice cold beer after this hearing.


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: twighead]
    #24000184 - 01/11/17 03:51 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Sweet LORD!

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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #24000333 - 01/11/17 06:34 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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They'll probably just have more time and resources to focus on hard drugs(cocaine,heroin etc)




Their new targets are chronic pain patients and the doctors that prescribe those drugs.  Now even with a legitimate condition it's almost impossible to get a prescription because the doctors are so paranoid. :uhoh:

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/12/06/chronic-pain-colorado-opioid-prescriptions/


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: Le_Canard]
    #24000339 - 01/11/17 06:41 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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If Sessions makes it to attorney general, he may even shut down the states that have made it legal real quick like.





Not going to happen.


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: Lucis]
    #24000381 - 01/11/17 07:08 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Im sure the DEA in legal states are still cracking down on BIG grows. Let us not forget that in legal states, u can only grow so much plants.

For example, in Oregon, its a 4 plant per household limit.

If cops found me with say 20 full grown plants in my house (for example), i would get in some trouble!

Also, with legal weed, im sure they are cracking down on DUI's (with weed driving) and underaged tokers.


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24000420 - 01/11/17 07:45 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

The Toronto police department has been testing a device for road side marijuana breath tests. They will stop you and tell you that they are testing a device. If the device finds something on your breath you are still free to go and "nothing can be used against you in a court of law". :rolleyes:


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: Lucis]
    #24000442 - 01/11/17 08:03 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Le_Canard said:
If Sessions makes it to attorney general, he may even shut down the states that have made it legal real quick like.





Not going to happen.






I dunno. I hope you're right and I'm wrong though.


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Re: Downside of widespread cannabis legalization [Re: Le_Canard]
    #24000539 - 01/11/17 09:02 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

It will be wayyy wayy wayyy more illegal to grow or sell marijuana in the states its legal recreationallly. Every state that went rec tightened up their medical laws. Mass is allowed 6 Oregon four. I promise if you buy marijuana, unless you bought it directly from the grower, it came from a large grow. Which would be extremely illegal, and if caught growing like that. Say 10-100 up to 1000 plants or more, (because that's the weed that makes it to the streets cheap enough to re sell, looks and smells good but is sprayed with pesticide and fed chemical fertilizer) will have even more of a sentence, than there would have been even before any state went medical. Trust me, the only thing this will do is give them more marijuana busts, cause now there is rules. Before there was no rules, just don't do it. Now you'll get in more trouble for breaking the rules they made, its only giving them more work. Especially all the people they need to hire to go and watch the legal rec market, the grows, the stores, everything is monitored by the DEA. Plus they'll still bust ya for your 6 plants ,take them, smash your equipment and grow room and hope they find something else illegal. Even if your under your plant limit, without you letting them in to check(which is illegal) they only know marijuana is growing there not how much. It happens to medical patients and caregivers EVERY SINGLE DAY.


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