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Tylershatto5
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Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!!
#23997817 - 01/10/17 10:44 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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so i made a substitute agar and it worked one heres my results
this baby took over in 6 days from spore 
and it clearly has Primordia developing

so? should i throw it in the fruiting chamber??? or transfer to grain? or i thought about throwing it with a monotube thats started but isnt quite as mature? but it grew super fast so i would like to keep the genetics
heres the other one
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23997827 - 01/10/17 10:48 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Experiment failed
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23997829 - 01/10/17 10:48 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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should i throw it in the fruiting chamber??? or transfer to grain? or i thought about throwing it with a monotube thats started but isnt quite as mature?
put that to a new plate at least and petri wedges never go right to a fruiting chamber
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Tylershatto5
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: enlightenment]
#23997838 - 01/10/17 10:52 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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how does an experiment fail?
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Tylershatto5
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23997842 - 01/10/17 10:53 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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i ment just for the hell of it what should i do i have plenty fruiting but i wondered if itd be cool to fruit but i deff wanna keep the genetics
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23997898 - 01/10/17 11:20 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Maybe describe what it is you did with the agar substitute...like what it is and why you were considering it a viable alternative? The likelihood of cube spores germinating and covering the entire plate in six days is nil. And no, those are not primordia. Not bagging, just saying.
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23997916 - 01/10/17 11:26 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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I would say a failed experiment is a trial of a new idea without the desired result.
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this baby took over in 6 days from spore
You grew mold.
I doubt your desired result was to grow some mold, so I call it a failed experiment.
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Tylershatto5
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Mycolorado]
#23997931 - 01/10/17 11:30 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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i did it for people who need agar sub for any reason i have found a place to get agar agar locally but for the people who cant i found what id say is a pretty good media and it seem to germinate quite well and colonizes damn good for some bull shit mixed in a plastic playdough container but for those of you need a good easy agar sub u can PM me for the recipe and i didnt notice the primordia at first glance but then after the pic i noticed them at a better better angle ill post one for u so u could see there clearly primordia
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Tylershatto5
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23997946 - 01/10/17 11:36 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23997949 - 01/10/17 11:37 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Just describe what you did...asking people to pm you for the recipe is silly. Primordia are tiny mushrooms...like these (as soon as the knots start to look like mushrooms):
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23997954 - 01/10/17 11:39 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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That is mycelium strands.
That is mostly mold with a few cubensis strands poking through.
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Tylershatto5
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23997958 - 01/10/17 11:40 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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and as u seen pic 2 was much smaller with the mold thats why i was trying to keep the genetics bc it grew extremely fast but the container is small like a sample play dough container small and it was inoculated on 1/4/17 i have no reason to lie or post i was excited and wanted to share my results and see who people though but thanks for your thoughts
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23997976 - 01/10/17 11:48 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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no ones said you are lying.
you just have no idea what you are doing or talking about.
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23997978 - 01/10/17 11:48 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Oh, now I get it.
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Tylershatto5
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Mycolorado]
#23998006 - 01/10/17 11:56 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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i had no desired results other then for mycelium to be able to grow on it and actually im just doing my first grow and am completely clueless except what i have read and researched and came here to log my stuff as i learn and to get help and just get optionions and not one explanation bc im a noob but i was told that this site was to inform and if ur tired of noob questions why get on a site where thats what people do i no longer come here for advice more of a log to show a few out of state grow friends to view and once i learn ill be sure to nt mislead or act like a pussy on a site bc ppl ask questions on a site where u ask questions so its bubble gun and my very own urine and i was trying to grow the great white mold of neptune and i failed ill have to get to mixing my piss and bubble gum and if ur gonna try make sure its double mint chewed for 36 seconds no need to pressure cook ur mouth will clean it just fine then go fuck yourself
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23998009 - 01/10/17 11:58 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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we're not tired of noob questions, we're tired of noobs that don't take advice, do the research when we spoon feed them links or show them where to find the information they need is.
and especially ones that have dick attitudes like yours. pay attention to the noobs that get good help and do well 
half of us spend our whole day here helping noobs, for free, because we're nice shroomy people. if shroomery is a dick to you, maybe take a look at your own posts
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23998014 - 01/10/17 12:00 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Let's not spin out here...I just wanted to know what the recipe was and your thoughts on making it...
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Mycolorado]
#23998020 - 01/10/17 12:03 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Well regardless, that thing is almost all white mold with some small amounts of myc on there. Considering myc even grew, that says something. The problem is obviously with sterile techniques..
If you actually got sterility down, this would have worked out just fine. Just saying.
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Mad Season]
#23998040 - 01/10/17 12:09 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Tylershatto5
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Mad Season]
#23998050 - 01/10/17 12:12 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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i was steril to be honest the reason its broke up is bc i dropped them both and just threw it in on the shelf next to my dirty old hot water heater and seen it today and was gonna throw it out and they both had life on them that was the goal and i got it life mycelium preferably which also happened i just had like a half cc and did some bored shit bc i dont kno what im doing and didnt want to mess with agar bc only one i have the stuff to make is PDA and i dont have flakes i have to boil potatoes and since doing that u never know the tru amount of nutes i figures id use the last few drops on some bull shit concauction then when moving it after inoculation i droped it got pissed and set it up there incase shit worked but forgot until today while cleaning and was shocked to see the first one with the mold spot and mycel spot then the other was covered in white i sent a pic to my friend at IU here in bloomington who studies agriculture and he has a little grow going and he got the recipe to see if he could simplify or atlease try himself and i decided to post it
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Tylershatto5
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23998054 - 01/10/17 12:13 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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recipe is gum and piss mint gum and my thoughts were could mold and mycel live together in candyland whats ur thoughts on the experiment....
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23998071 - 01/10/17 12:17 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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my thought's are
one of these . can really go a long way in helping people understand what the hell you're saying.
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Tylershatto5
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: bodhisatta]
#23998073 - 01/10/17 12:18 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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great thoughts man!
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Tylershatto5]
#23998077 - 01/10/17 12:21 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Right on...go cutters! Try using dog food at 2-3%. Very simple and it works.
200ml H2O 4g agar 4-6g dog food
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Tylershatto5
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Re: Agar sub 2 Experiment results!!!! need advice!!!! [Re: Mycolorado]
#23998094 - 01/10/17 12:27 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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yeah but i dont have a dog and i could just get flakes for pda but this was just outta boredom
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