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jiiko2361
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Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic
#23997146 - 01/10/17 01:38 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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I moved it to FC after dunk and roll 10 days ago. Please check my setup. is it something wrong? temp 68-77 RH 90-95 12/12 light. fan 4 a day, mist 2 a day. No pin no sign. is it looks bad?
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361] 1
#23997306 - 01/10/17 04:36 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Keep them moist and wait. Don't fan directly. They are alive.
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
#23997387 - 01/10/17 06:20 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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They look ok. Did you allow them 7-10 days to consolidate before birthing them?
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#23997416 - 01/10/17 06:55 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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yea how long did you wait after full colonization before you birthed them?
and those cakes look huge if they werent fully consolidated then theyre probably still colonizing in the fruiting chamber. Just wait they might take longer because of the size and the fact it probably needed longer then a week to consolidate because they are huge cakes
and the cake doesn't seem to appear to have eaten the layer of verm or whatever you rolled your cake in, that means to me its still colonizing inside the cake, and wont pin until its ready
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: cubensis333]
#23997429 - 01/10/17 07:05 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: amidogen]
#23997479 - 01/10/17 07:38 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Thanks everyone. I wait over a month after full colonization before i birthed them. because i didn't stay at home and came back there was one pin in the jar. black or green spot on the cake is just where pin came out. cake is not big its 300ml jar. FC is small. is this possible to be bad environment?
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#23997497 - 01/10/17 07:48 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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I always fan directly. how can fan it?
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#23997556 - 01/10/17 08:27 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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fan the cake after u mist so theres no water drops on the cake and to get fresh air into your FC, fresh air will assist initiate pinning
heres pinning triggers -light, like a 12/12 cycle -FAE,fanning -temp drop low 70
fan like 4-6 times mist around 3 times thruout the day (look at the cake when its wet it doesnt need mist, but if its dry give mist)
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: cubensis333]
#23997559 - 01/10/17 08:29 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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how are you fanning your fc it might not be getting enough fae
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: cubensis333]
#23997563 - 01/10/17 08:32 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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I fanned the cake after u mist by lid 30 second. umm my fan and mist might be not enough? I will do more fan and mist daily.
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: cubensis333] 1
#23997591 - 01/10/17 08:51 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: amidogen]
#23997623 - 01/10/17 09:08 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Thanks for advice. Shouldn't i mist to cake directly is it? i saw that someone say mist to cake, other say mist to cake.which is correct? and What is properly size of SGFC? I should go to buy properly size container if SGFC is wrong. I prefer small size. My room hasn't enough space. What size is better for small FC?
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#23997683 - 01/10/17 09:35 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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I'v seen cakes take 3 weeks to fruit. Nothing....Nothing....BAM, you got a field of dicks. Don't give up.
Did you dunk for 24 hrs???
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#23997684 - 01/10/17 09:36 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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A 66qt or bigger tub is preferable. Don't mist the cakes directly, spray above them and let the mist settle down below.
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: Psilosoulful]
#23998276 - 01/10/17 01:40 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Have you tried asking it??
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: MushroomBilly]
#23999625 - 01/10/17 09:51 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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cake looks dry? I mist wall. and cake not looks glisten. maybe SGFC is wrong? What do you see this cake? dry?
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#23999627 - 01/10/17 09:52 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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I dunked it 11days ago.
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: Psilosoulful]
#23999628 - 01/10/17 09:52 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
Psilosoulful said: Don't mist the cakes directly, spray above them and let the mist settle down below.
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: Psilosoulful]
#23999660 - 01/10/17 10:03 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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it means spray to it from a little distance?
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#23999725 - 01/10/17 10:24 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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mist above ur cakes and watch the mist descend onto your cakes,do it until it glistens,judge it with your eyes and when they look dry again give it another mist
i jus did my first grow to and dunked n rolled like 10 days ago and no pinning yet you can look atmy post to compare your cakes fruiting time to mine if you want my fc is a 2 liter though...
Edited by cubensis333 (01/10/17 10:32 PM)
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: cubensis333]
#23999736 - 01/10/17 10:28 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
cubensis333 said: mist above ur cakes and watch the mist descend onto your cakes,do it until it glistens,judge it with your eyes and when they look dry again give it another mist
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: cubensis333]
#23999744 - 01/10/17 10:29 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Ok I got it. Thanks!!
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#23999751 - 01/10/17 10:32 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: Psilosoulful]
#23999779 - 01/10/17 10:41 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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I misted as you describe just now. Is it better now? I still don't know SGFC is fine or not but hope this misting mistake getting better.
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#23999849 - 01/10/17 11:10 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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heres a visual guide for you
   cake (needs misting)
   cake (just misted)
look at difference
needs mist ---> <---misted
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#24000152 - 01/11/17 03:06 AM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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jiiko2361 said: cake looks dry? I mist wall. and cake not looks glisten. maybe SGFC is wrong? What do you see this cake? dry?

Misting the walls doesn't hydrate your cakes. Mist them directly. These are mushrooms that grow in nature. It rains outside, they can handle it. Consolidating for a month is a pretty long time. They were most likely super dry. Just mist more. Evaporation of the cakes is the main pinning trigger. The cakes look ok, but the verm looks super dry. There are a ton of teks for PF tek here. Don't try to experiment. Follow the teks step by step. Awesome people took the time to write everything down for.you.
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: darbbase]
#24000363 - 01/11/17 06:58 AM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Just for future reference op, I know it doesn't help you now, but I stopped doing the roll after the dunk when I used to do cakes - just my experience and I'm sure others will say they've had great success but I had similar situations to yours when i rolled them in verm so stopped doing it. The unrolled superwhite cakes used to go off like a rocket in no time at all and the only variable seemed to be the verm (although they were multi spore so not entirely comparable).
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: MushroomBilly]
#24000493 - 01/11/17 08:38 AM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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If you roll it in verm and keep it properly hydrated, it will blow you away. The verm will keep more moisture in, which in turn means more water for fruit production.
The best grows I've ever seen always were rolled in verm and kept glistening, like in that tek. If it isn't working, dont just stop, practice til you get it right.
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: Mad Season]
#24000582 - 01/11/17 09:16 AM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Thanks guys! i'm luck that i noticed i was doing wrong. now i understand that how to mist and how looks like Glistening with moisture. but i see the cake dry out too fast after glistening with moisture. like i feel that need to mist it 20 times or more a day. how long does it take to looks dry normally? how often do you mist it? is this misting still not enough or SGFC problem?
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#24000624 - 01/11/17 09:39 AM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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it could be because you have 2 tubs stacked on eachother instead of the tub on top put a lid.] i think the extra space and holes are causing way extra FAE (causing ur cakes to dry out quickly)
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: cubensis333]
#24003309 - 01/12/17 07:44 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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If you find your cakes are drying out too fast then just mist directly. I have done it numerous ties and it doesn't effect the cake. I know, I know, everyone says don't, but if your cakes are drying too fast then the fae is probably up a bit more then it should. Everyone's drafts and air currents are different in their respective houses, closets, rooms etc. If its not fruiting and looks dry too often just spray the damn thing directly.
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: Mushenstein]
#24003365 - 01/12/17 08:24 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Thanks every one. now i mist directly. I try to look more days what happen.
Edited by jiiko2361 (01/12/17 08:27 AM)
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: Mushenstein]
#24003442 - 01/12/17 09:03 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Mushenstein said: If you find your cakes are drying out too fast then just mist directly. I have done it numerous ties and it doesn't effect the cake. I know, I know, everyone says don't, but if your cakes are drying too fast then the fae is probably up a bit more then it should. Everyone's drafts and air currents are different in their respective houses, closets, rooms etc. If its not fruiting and looks dry too often just spray the damn thing directly.
Yeah honestly I literally always mist directly. Letting it gently mist downwards just has never been my style.
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: Mad Season]
#24003500 - 01/12/17 09:31 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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I mist both ways just depends how dry the cake is
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: cubensis333]
#24003528 - 01/12/17 09:38 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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Since the sides dry out generally before the top IME, you should be misting directly pretty much every time. The passing from above just hits the tops of the cakes mostly, which is perfect for monos.
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: Mad Season]
#24011000 - 01/14/17 10:19 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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still no pin. hydrometer say RH in SGFC is always around 80% but cake dry so fast. I saw post that room RH should be below rh 30% for a shotgun to work properly. My rom is rh 20%. My air‐conditioner doesn't have humidifier fanction. WHat can i do?
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#24011063 - 01/14/17 11:10 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Redunk if they feel lighter than when you first birthed. Get them that water they lost, and they shouldn't be so thirsty
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: Mad Season]
#24040921 - 01/26/17 10:45 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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did they ever pin???
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: cubensis333]
#24043283 - 01/27/17 09:28 AM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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it didn't pin yet. maybe iv done something wrong. good luck next time! How about you?
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#24043460 - 01/27/17 10:57 AM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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1st cake pinned but they all just aborted i think im lookin at like 30 pins not growing lol
my 2nd cake be pinning healthy, and they growin bigger unlike my first, i just needed more fae, and less moisture. also i needed to make the sgfc, cuz i had it in a 2 liter
 
maybe try dunking your cakes for 12 hours and then put backj in chamber rolled in fine verm
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: cubensis333]
#24043567 - 01/27/17 11:53 AM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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#24045127 - 01/27/17 08:39 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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I disagree. Doing a dunk/reroll on a non-pinning cake will help in two circumstances.. 1) verm has either fallen off or been absorbed, and 2) for varieties like KSSS and PE that don't belong on cakes. I've saved bacterial cakes by a dunk/reroll after waiting weeks for pins.
How can a cake fruit if it doesn't have enough water or a casing layer? Easy. It won't. So giving it water and reapplying a casing layer will help.
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Re: Is My cakes dead? 10days birthing Pic [Re: jiiko2361]
#24045427 - 01/27/17 11:23 PM (7 years, 2 days ago) |
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Pinning can take up to 3 weeks sometimes. Just gotta be patient.
Also mist only when the cakes look dry. Dont mist on a schedule, its on a "as needed" basis.
So far, your cakes look fine. But u need to elevate your FC off that file cabinet thing. Needs to be up about 3 inches from any table or table-like surface it sits on.
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