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Fuel pelet substrate
    #23994925 - 01/09/17 11:29 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

This ismy first time making this sub /not for reshi i want to use filter patch bags should thesebe pasturized or steralized im a little confused alli did was pasturize it for reshi


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: PieEyed-Messiah]
    #23994947 - 01/09/17 11:39 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

I pasteurized my fuel pellets for shitake in large filter bags last week. There is a tek that evilmushroom posted I believe it's called lipas fuel pellets Tek. That's the one I followed.


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: Snagman17]
    #23995035 - 01/09/17 12:05 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

If you supplement sterilize .....If you just use fuel pellets you can get by with pasteurized


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: Quadman]
    #23996157 - 01/09/17 06:34 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Thx youguys


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: PieEyed-Messiah]
    #23996252 - 01/09/17 07:04 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

To get the most out of each bag, which is the most expensive part, you want to supplement with 20% bran and slightly over hydrate then sterilize. Spawn thin, one quart jar can do 12-20 bags.


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: Gr0wer]
    #24000855 - 01/11/17 11:13 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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To get the most out of each bag, which is the most expensive part, you want to supplement with 20% bran and slightly over hydrate then sterilize. Spawn thin, one quart jar can do 12-20 bags.


shit really i made wayyy too much spawn then and should i mix it in or just sprinkle on top


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: PieEyed-Messiah]
    #24001711 - 01/11/17 04:41 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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To get the most out of each bag, which is the most expensive part, you want to supplement with 20% bran and slightly over hydrate then sterilize. Spawn thin, one quart jar can do 12-20 bags.


shit really i made wayyy too much spawn then and should i mix it in or just sprinkle on top




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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: RolledUhhp]
    #24001754 - 01/11/17 05:01 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: Gr0wer]
    #24001898 - 01/11/17 06:02 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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To get the most out of each bag, which is the most expensive part, you want to supplement with 20% bran and slightly over hydrate then sterilize. Spawn thin, one quart jar can do 12-20 bags.




What's the reasoning behind slightly over hydrating and how is that measured?  Why spawn so thin as well?  Wouldn't low spawn rate and wet sub invite bacterial contams?


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: browny]
    #24002104 - 01/11/17 06:56 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

there is a really good HWFP tek by Muskie. Just search 'Easy Supplemented HWFP' on google, it'll be the first result


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: poponon]
    #24002468 - 01/11/17 09:25 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

Only reishi you can spawn so thin. Extra water content is for loss during the 3 month time it takes to form conks


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: Gr0wer]
    #24002692 - 01/11/17 11:09 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Only reishi you can spawn so thin. Extra water content is for loss during the 3 month time it takes to form conks




Always dropping the nuggets of knowledge, I love it!


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: Gr0wer]
    #24002767 - 01/11/17 11:46 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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Only reishi you can spawn so thin. Extra water content is for loss during the 3 month time it takes to form conks




Word. Thought you were talking about Oysters.


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: MorePies]
    #24003261 - 01/12/17 07:02 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Grower, are you saying 12-20 5lb bags?


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: Snagman17]
    #24003650 - 01/12/17 10:24 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

He's saing one spawn jar of reshi can spawn alot of sub bags


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: PieEyed-Messiah]
    #24003712 - 01/12/17 10:55 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

I gathered that. The point was if he means 5lb bags. There is a big difference between 20 5lb bags and 20 1lb bags. More in amazement that 1 quart can do 20 5lb bags.


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: Snagman17]
    #24004146 - 01/12/17 01:39 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Im pretty shure he ment 5-6 lbs of sub my bags came in today so im going to fill them to 5 lbs my question is how do i inoculate should i mix in  the spawn as i would a monotub? Or sprinkle some on top


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: PieEyed-Messiah]
    #24004157 - 01/12/17 01:42 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

I have wayyy tooooo many spawn jars butt grower told me i can keep them in the refrigerator for um to a month befor they start to degrade


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: PieEyed-Messiah]
    #24006025 - 01/13/17 12:48 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

1 quart to 20 5lb bags is a 1% spawn rate, which will work but is very low. 5% is normally the lowest I would go if you are making your own spawn.
And you can store your jars for much longer than a month. I periodically store grain masters for several months and just pull them when I need them.
For instance I just pulled an Elm oyster grain master made 5 months ago. Spawned to more grain and they fully colonized in 5 days. No slowed growth.


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Re: Fuel pelet substrate [Re: MycoFlora]
    #24006376 - 01/13/17 07:00 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Typically, what I do is after a jar is colonized 100% I'll transfer to a zip lock and put in the fridge if I need the jar for something else.
I've kept white oyster grain in the fridge for longer than a month and it didn't seem to bother them, but other strains may be different, and if I really paid attention to yield, I might have noticed a decline, but no problems so far. I do make sure I rotate them, and use the oldest first.


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