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OfflineShroomySeth
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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: Th3Issu3]
    #23997431 - 01/10/17 07:07 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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Th3Issu3 said:
If money isn't that much of a issue, buy some good stuff. Here's a few things to check out.

Premade flowhood.
Self healing injection ports
All American 930
1000 mediem spawn bags (bulk saves money )
Excalibur dehydrator
Potato dextrose agar
Petri dishes
Staples

I could probably go on for a week, but if you have the money to do it, mite as well do it right!




I've been seriously considering a laminar flow hood for a while actually... I've also got a spare bedroom that I've been considering turning into a clean room.

If i actually follow through on setting it up, I'll post a progress thread with pics. :smile:


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: ShroomySeth]
    #23997438 - 01/10/17 07:10 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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kenetic said:
Youll have much better results if you pick a tek and follow it until you get more experience.  I wouldnt get your hopes up gor this grow though




Yeah i hear ya.  I cherry picked certain aspects from a few different teks for this one.  Mostly just an experiment, but you're probably right.




And that sir is your mistake. With mushroom cultivation there really is no experimenting when you first start out. (It's all been done). The best way to learn is to follow 1 Tek EXACTLY till you have good results a few times to get the process and method down. Then in the future you can tweak an try new things. But at the beginning it will just try your patience.

You mentioned money isn't an issue and for most people its not either. It's time. A full tub grow can take 4-6 weeks depending on weather an other factors. That's a big time sink for something that's almost assuredly going to be a waste in the end you feel?

And though people in the cult forum can come off like dicks they generally are trying to help. It's just that literally all day every day posts like your come up. It can be a little annoying.

But stick with it cultivation is actually really interesting and a lot of fun it just requires patience and being able to follow directions EXACTLY (at first anyways).

Welcome!


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: AlCapone2k]
    #23997443 - 01/10/17 07:12 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

I think it's overkill to throw out the spawn. Might as well wait for them to colonize or contam while starting new jars. I recently put rye spawn to bulk with no contam problems and it was multispore. If he has to throw them out then so what he'll already have new jars knocked up with proper procedure. And if money is no object surely 10 bucks for a new pack of jars isn't an issue.


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: ShroomySeth]
    #23997447 - 01/10/17 07:13 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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ShroomySeth said:
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Th3Issu3 said:
If money isn't that much of a issue, buy some good stuff. Here's a few things to check out.

Premade flowhood.
Self healing injection ports
All American 930
1000 mediem spawn bags (bulk saves money )
Excalibur dehydrator
Potato dextrose agar
Petri dishes
Staples

I could probably go on for a week, but if you have the money to do it, mite as well do it right!




I've been seriously considering a laminar flow hood for a while actually... I've also got a spare bedroom that I've been considering turning into a clean room.

If i actually follow through on setting it up, I'll post a progress thread with pics. :smile:





Look up still air boxes to start they are worth their weight in gold an very easy to make. Also stupid cheap. That way you can find out if hardcore cultivation is your bag before throwing down big money.

:highfive:


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: Rewindicus]
    #23997670 - 01/10/17 09:29 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23998224 - 01/10/17 01:19 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Appreciate the input everyone. I think I've decided I'm going to build a SAB before dropping dough on the LFH. :smile:


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: berlinmyc]
    #23998498 - 01/10/17 03:13 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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berlinmyc said:
I've read some members talk about success in open air but I wouldn't risk it.



I don't think I have read of anyone cooking in grain bags and putting them into jars in open air. People even frown upon doing PF jars in open air, or using SHIPs in open air.

If doing high ratio G2G you could possibly get it to grow, as the already established growth is so quick to take off. Totally inadvisable though.

The only way this would work that I can see is if you transferred it while it was still at 100C, straight out of the PC so any airbourne contams would be possibly killed, but that is still totally inadvisable. But if the bags were only done for 90mins I think there is no hope. I would not do my 500ml jars for 90mins at 15psi.

I still think the best option is to sort the filters out and resterilize them in the PC, at least 120mins. Even just do half the jars or whatever will fit in the PC for one cycle.


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: blackout]
    #23999330 - 01/10/17 08:05 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

If you have the $$ you may want to consider a freeze dryer. It's an outstanding way to store your fruits for the long term and retain all the potency. Put them in as soon as you harvest and run it right away. It's awesome. But they are not cheap.


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: ShroomySeth]
    #23999626 - 01/10/17 09:51 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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Appreciate the input everyone. I think I've decided I'm going to build a SAB before dropping dough on the LFH. :smile:



Good call :super:


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #24008444 - 01/13/17 11:12 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Op sounds like you got some future contam-ed ms grain jars.(Please post future pics)




So far two of the twelve jars are showing signs of colonization.  One of those two also has what looks like black mold and the other looks healthy.

I shitcanned the jar with the mold. Did not open it for obvious reasons.



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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: ShroomySeth]
    #24008473 - 01/13/17 11:29 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

those grains look really wet. way to much water visible on the glass.


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: mushboy]
    #24009492 - 01/14/17 10:52 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

With grains gotta do the toilet paper test for moisture. That's what I do works every time. But keep us posted! :popcorn:


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: ShroomySeth]
    #24009847 - 01/14/17 01:41 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #24010016 - 01/14/17 03:08 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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:horrified:



:horrified: is quite correct


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: psilly the kid]
    #24010137 - 01/14/17 03:53 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Yea grain looks wet and then really dry at the top, because too much GE

You only want a small amount of GE too much will dry it out and the mycelium doesnt really need a lot of oxygen to colonize with just enough


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #24010140 - 01/14/17 03:56 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Yea grain looks wet and then really dry at the top, because too much GE





good eye!


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: mushboy]
    #24011697 - 01/15/17 10:00 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Some of them still look a little too wet, but most of them showing signs of healthy colonization with no contams (yet).

Would shaking them help at this point? I know you usually don't shake until 30% colonized (and right now it seems they are at around 10%), but would it possibly help with moisture distribution?


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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: ShroomySeth]
    #24011873 - 01/15/17 10:58 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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At the very least, if i should fail, my grow log will be documented and can be used as a "what not to do" example.





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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: Kenetic]
    #24024957 - 01/20/17 08:20 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Just a quick update.  The remaining 11 jars are about 20% colonized and are looking very healthy. :smile:



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Re: 1st Monotub.Golden Teacher. [Re: ShroomySeth]
    #24036664 - 01/24/17 05:17 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

So in direct opposition to what everyone says, it appears that besides the one jar that got contaminated, all of my white millet spawn jars are very healthy.

My question is this... Could it be that they just *appear* healthy and that contams could rear their ugly heads after I spawn to bulk substrate?


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