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InvisibleMadBotanist
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Florida attempts to ban Kratom again
    #23994368 - 01/09/17 03:58 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Florida State Rep. Kristin Jacobs, a Coconut Creek Democrat, filed legislation on Friday to add Kratom to the controlled substance list.

House Bill 183 would add Mitragynine and Hydroxymitragynine, constituents of Kratom, to the schedule of controlled substances, offering an exception for any FDA approved substance containing these chemicals.

Selling, delivering, manufacturing, or importing these Kratom chemical constituents into Florida would be considered a misdemeanor of the first degree, should the law go into effect.

Source - http://saintpetersblog.com/bill-filed-florida-house-make-kratom-controlled-substance/


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: MadBotanist] * 1
    #23994563 - 01/09/17 08:09 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Oh SO the Kristin Jacobs representing the good people of Florida...

https://ballotpedia.org/Kristin_Jacobs

https://www.billtrack50.com/BillDetail/655944

https://www.billtrack50.com/LegislatorDetail/19510

That's her facebook, email, etc. send here some useful information!


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: ellomello] * 1
    #23994627 - 01/09/17 08:48 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Good thing Datura is still legal.  Nobody ever cut their tongue off using that.

What's dangerous about kratom?


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23994688 - 01/09/17 09:37 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)



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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: azur]
    #23994785 - 01/09/17 10:28 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Nothing is dangerous about Kratom, perhaps it is competition for big pharma.

Datura is actually dangerous as far as i know

Scopalamine and Atropine are not substances I'd consider safe. kratom can be used as a natural subtitute for opioids, and thats probably why florida wants to ban it 


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: Fractal420]
    #23994858 - 01/09/17 11:02 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

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Fractal420 said:
Nothing is dangerous about Kratom, perhaps it is competition for big pharma.

Datura is actually dangerous as far as i know

Scopalamine and Atropine are not substances I'd consider safe. kratom can be used as a natural subtitute for opioids, and thats probably why florida wants to ban it 




Exactly that, big pharma competition, so banned, schedule 1.

Am i right? Same thing with weed, buttttttttt alcohol and tobacco industry also chip in against it!


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: Fractal420]
    #23994865 - 01/09/17 11:04 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Yes the Datura comment was and is sarcasm.

They should say that everything useful and enjoyed is schedule 1.


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: MadBotanist]
    #23995414 - 01/09/17 02:32 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

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MadBotanist said:
Florida State Rep. Kristin Jacobs, a Coconut Creek Democrat, filed legislation on Friday to add Kratom to the controlled substance list.

House Bill 183 would add Mitragynine and Hydroxymitragynine, constituents of Kratom, to the schedule of controlled substances, offering an exception for any FDA approved substance containing these chemicals.

Selling, delivering, manufacturing, or importing these Kratom chemical constituents into Florida would be considered a misdemeanor of the first degree, should the law go into effect.

Source - http://saintpetersblog.com/bill-filed-florida-house-make-kratom-controlled-substance/




Am I misreading this or does it say that it would be a misdemeanor to import the specific chemicals they intend to ban but not kratom itself?


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: musiclover420]
    #23995822 - 01/09/17 05:08 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

That's how most alkaloids get banned, then the plant becomes "manufacturing a schedule X" if intent to consume can be proved


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: MadBotanist]
    #23996532 - 01/09/17 08:40 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

meanwhile pharma continues to pump out addicting and deadly painkillers in surplus


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: Konyap]
    #23997360 - 01/10/17 05:48 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Modern world is all about ownership.  It's hard to own nature and make huge profits.


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23997861 - 01/10/17 11:03 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

This shit gets old..  they really need to back the fuck off.


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again *DELETED* [Re: Amanita86]
    #23998875 - 01/10/17 05:34 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: BlackWidow]
    #23998929 - 01/10/17 05:54 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

and theyll wonder whats with all the heroin ods


well no they wont


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: projectbadass]
    #24002345 - 01/11/17 08:33 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

They're not gonna care about heroin OD's. Those weren't paying customers (taxes or scripts).


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: Adden]
    #24002918 - 01/12/17 01:05 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

This is like the people who try to ban abortion, this is atleast the 3rd bill. The people clearly do not want it banned. The rehab industry is the biggest opposition in Florida.

And I just found the best kratom extract I have ever tried. Oh well, I will just stock pile


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: MadBotanist]
    #24002938 - 01/12/17 01:15 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Why?!


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: Didgedood]
    #24003839 - 01/12/17 11:40 AM (7 years, 18 days ago)

The rehab industry is against it? If true, thats super fucked up


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: ellomello]
    #24003918 - 01/12/17 12:14 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

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ellomello said:
Oh SO the Kristin Jacobs representing the good people of Florida...

https://ballotpedia.org/Kristin_Jacobs

https://www.billtrack50.com/BillDetail/655944

https://www.billtrack50.com/LegislatorDetail/19510

That's her facebook, email, etc. send here some useful information!



This woman's critical thinking skills are hopeless. In another article she compared kratom activists to Hitler and referred to all users as addicts, regardless of why they actually use kratom. She honestly believes heroin and kratom are the same thing.


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: D.M.T]
    #24003994 - 01/12/17 12:49 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

I suspect there are countless morons like her.  They understand next to nothing about pharmacology or neurology.

Tell her to take a nicotine antagonist.


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: D.M.T]
    #24005121 - 01/12/17 06:32 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

they've been doing this to the 2nd amendment slowly but surely.

now they are doing it to natural substances.

it is, and always has been, about control.


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: keyser_soze]
    #24005240 - 01/12/17 07:10 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Ya we can't have thousands of Earth lovers in the national forest getting high on plants!

Those situations are hard to control and could bring down the Union.


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24005402 - 01/12/17 08:03 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)



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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: ellomello]
    #24008439 - 01/13/17 11:10 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Shes maybe lobbying for the rehab centers in here area, here look at this. Really wouldnt be surprised if theres a lot more to it too

https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/comments/5n33oo/i_think_ive_discovered_why_kristin_jacobs_is/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=top_post&utm_content=1


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Re: Florida attempts to ban Kratom again [Re: Jvells]
    #24012245 - 01/15/17 01:32 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

I can tell whether it is ethical, and the will of the people, by the fact that is written, on a piece of paper.

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