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The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread
    #23994343 - 01/09/17 03:23 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Hey I figured one of these might be fun. If you have a passing thought or tidbit of something you'd like to share that you think can help people, post away.

I've got two:

1. Never set anything down on the towel underneath your SAB. Treat bottoms of containers as if they're contaminated, and don't stack the bottom of something on wet micropore tape.

2. Don't forget to flame the needle red hot. No alcohol wipes needed. Flame outside the Still-Air Box, between jars not holes. You don't need to be super fast or pulling your arms out, causing air currents. It's the easiest and most important part of the whole thing no need to rush.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Adden] * 3
    #23994375 - 01/09/17 04:17 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Patience


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23994399 - 01/09/17 05:05 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

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Patience




The most important thing of all. I fuck up so many things because I rush. Rushing never leads to a satisfactory ending.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Tiamo]
    #23994417 - 01/09/17 05:27 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

If you got serious patience you could drop spores on several agar dishes, wait for a pin, then take a clone, then 1 transfer away from the clone to grains.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: wtfcrazymofo] * 1
    #23994429 - 01/09/17 05:42 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Do dry runs in front of a fake flow hood or SAB to get good at your technique. Amazing how repeating a few steps beforehand helps when you get to it. Aaaand smoke fatties, cuz it keeps you stoked!


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Crispykoot] * 1
    #23995916 - 01/09/17 05:40 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

work with confidence:cool: if you have any doubts about wtf you are about to do ASK


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Crispykoot]
    #23995950 - 01/09/17 05:47 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

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Do dry runs in front of a fake flow hood or SAB to get good at your technique. Amazing how repeating a few steps beforehand helps when you get to it. Aaaand smoke fatties, cuz it keeps you stoked!




Doing dry runs helped me out immensely.

Today's tip of the day:

1. Don't spray the insides of your SAB with anything but soapy water.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #23995987 - 01/09/17 05:55 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Be patient but also make things quick and simple, less steps = less mistakes. Over thinking and over complicating more often than not leads to failure.

KISS...Keep It Simple Shroomers...


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: PinPornProducer] * 1
    #23995995 - 01/09/17 05:57 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

You don't need to spend a lot.
Still air box is under $20


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23996024 - 01/09/17 06:04 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

read the date on the post before you quote it as gospel.

cultivation is like cooking. follow the recipes. some people want to bake a cake without flour it seems.

also learn to make vegan jello.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #23996115 - 01/09/17 06:24 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Don't drink as much as I do. Otherwise all your plates end up mislabeled and you have bathtubs you can't use. . .


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #23996118 - 01/09/17 06:24 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

mushrooms cured me of drinking (over share)


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #23996190 - 01/09/17 06:42 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)



Every empty box of these is 12k :awesomenod:


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Adden]
    #23997222 - 01/10/17 02:59 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Write down what you have done and when to keep track of things for better planning in the future.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23997265 - 01/10/17 03:38 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Plexiglass window for your sab, well worth the small effort :thumbup:


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Josex]
    #23997446 - 01/10/17 07:13 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Lurk, read, and learn. Once you find the answers to all your questions, keep going. I enjoy reading the Q & A.M.U. thread to find out answers to questions I don't even have yet.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: magicMerlin]
    #23997514 - 01/10/17 07:58 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Sub
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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Adden]
    #23997523 - 01/10/17 08:06 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Quote:

Adden said:
Hey I figured one of these might be fun. If you have a passing thought or tidbit of something you'd like to share that you think can help people, post away.

I've got two:

1. Never set anything down on the towel underneath your SAB. Treat bottoms of containers as if they're contaminated, and don't stack the bottom of something on wet micropore tape.

2. Don't forget to flame the needle red hot. No alcohol wipes needed. Flame outside the Still-Air Box, between jars not holes. You don't need to be super fast or pulling your arms out, causing air currents. It's the easiest and most important part of the whole thing no need to rush.




just wondering your technique when working and stacking plates with tape, and thanks for the post!


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: synthetik]
    #23997554 - 01/10/17 08:27 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

5 Gallon Elastic Opening Paint Strainer Bags work great for rinsing off your perlite without that much of a mess.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: usmc0811]
    #23997699 - 01/10/17 09:40 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Psychadelics are fun unless they are not... :mushroom2:


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: mushhiehunter]
    #23997713 - 01/10/17 09:51 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Isn't that true for everything?


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Tiamo]
    #23997858 - 01/10/17 11:01 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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Isn't that true for everything?




Give me an example of trichoderma being fun...


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: mushhiehunter]
    #23997862 - 01/10/17 11:04 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

uhh

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Psychadelics are fun unless they are not... :mushroom2:





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Quote:

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Isn't that true for everything?




Give me an example of trichoderma being fun...




stop.

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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: mushhiehunter] * 1
    #23997990 - 01/10/17 11:52 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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Quote:

Tiamo said:
Isn't that true for everything?




Give me an example of trichoderma being fun...



Studying it is actually very fun. It decomposes higher fungi like butter, it has very cool mycelium, sometimes impossible to see without a scope, it has such a small amount of spores in the air, yet is the biggest contamination involved in this hobby, which really tells you about its aggressiveness, it grows with weed VERY nicely, it's in literally every inch of soil, and some species can even smell sweet like coconut, mint, or candy, some species can even be dangerous to people with low immune systems. Trichoderma is a very very unique and cool AF mold. Ya just gotta look at it as more than the bane of cultivation.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Mad Season]
    #23998005 - 01/10/17 11:56 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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Quote:

mushhiehunter said:
Quote:

Tiamo said:
Isn't that true for everything?




Give me an example of trichoderma being fun...



Studying it is actually very fun. It decomposes higher fungi like butter, it has very cool mycelium, sometimes impossible to see without a scope, it has such a small amount of spores in the air, yet is the biggest contamination involved in this hobby, which really tells you about its aggressiveness, it grows with weed VERY nicely, it's in literally every inch of soil, and some species can even smell sweet like coconut, mint, or candy, some species can even be dangerous to people with low immune systems. Trichoderma is a very very unique and cool AF mold. Ya just gotta look at it as more than the bane of cultivation.




Well, I guess trichoderma can be fun after all... def didn't know about the small number of spores..


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: mushhiehunter]
    #23998072 - 01/10/17 12:18 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Stay current, practice makes perfect


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Mad Season]
    #23998151 - 01/10/17 12:51 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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Quote:

mushhiehunter said:
Quote:

Tiamo said:
Isn't that true for everything?




Give me an example of trichoderma being fun...



Studying it is actually very fun. It decomposes higher fungi like butter, it has very cool mycelium, sometimes impossible to see without a scope, it has such a small amount of spores in the air, yet is the biggest contamination involved in this hobby, which really tells you about its aggressiveness, it grows with weed VERY nicely, it's in literally every inch of soil, and some species can even smell sweet like coconut, mint, or candy, some species can even be dangerous to people with low immune systems. Trichoderma is a very very unique and cool AF mold. Ya just gotta look at it as more than the bane of cultivation.




Hell just even to understand the enemy you must come to know and love it first. I never really saw much trich after I figured out my latent bacteria issues. It's pretty easy to be blasé about it when it never shows up before the first flush.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #23998247 - 01/10/17 01:28 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

I just read and read and I still learn shit every day


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: psilly the kid]
    #23998279 - 01/10/17 01:40 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

My 2 tips of the day is;

Smoke pot after you finished your day's lab/cultivation work

Buy a yearly planner and write down what you've done in your lab the moment you finish. Don't leave it for the next day or you'll be spending hours and hours sifting through photos and trying to remember crap that you've done when you were just too damn high


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Rosen_Rot] * 4
    #23998299 - 01/10/17 01:48 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

My only tip is this:

Use The Search Function (UTSF)
   

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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Mad Season]
    #23998328 - 01/10/17 01:58 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

FOTTSE  :rebelride:


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: PinPornProducer] * 1
    #23998348 - 01/10/17 02:07 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)



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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: filthyknees]
    #23998454 - 01/10/17 02:50 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

remember to have fun! And experiment.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: synthetik]
    #23998837 - 01/10/17 05:23 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Quote:

synthetik said:
Quote:

Adden said:
Hey I figured one of these might be fun. If you have a passing thought or tidbit of something you'd like to share that you think can help people, post away.

I've got two:

1. Never set anything down on the towel underneath your SAB. Treat bottoms of containers as if they're contaminated, and don't stack the bottom of something on wet micropore tape.

2. Don't forget to flame the needle red hot. No alcohol wipes needed. Flame outside the Still-Air Box, between jars not holes. You don't need to be super fast or pulling your arms out, causing air currents. It's the easiest and most important part of the whole thing no need to rush.




just wondering your technique when working and stacking plates with tape, and thanks for the post!




I'll stack them in small pyramids. Two at the base and the one that stands on it just stands on the lids of the others.

Maybe it's a little overboard but hey it works for me.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Adden]
    #23998844 - 01/10/17 05:26 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

i just toss em in mason jar boxes.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: mushboy]
    #23998860 - 01/10/17 05:30 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Me too.. but while letting the tape dry in a SAB I don't stack them like I would in those. Some of mine go in little boxes from when I order stuff, so if I need xyz transfer 4 I can grab a small box and that set is in there ready to go.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Adden]
    #23998865 - 01/10/17 05:31 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

i dont stack them out of the pc either. i always set them out on my counter to dry before i stack. good looking out tho:thumbup:


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Adden]
    #24002166 - 01/11/17 07:26 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

ah ok, I left them to cool to room temp, stacked them still wrapped in foil and rubber banded them in 3's bout to noc these bitches up and break my cherry to this whole mycology thing once and for all... nervous!


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: synthetik]
    #24002307 - 01/11/17 08:20 PM (7 years, 19 days ago)

You'll get over it


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: synthetik]
    #24002687 - 01/11/17 11:08 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

After pouring/working your 10th plate it's not so special anymore and just annoying lol


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Rosen_Rot] * 1
    #24006598 - 01/13/17 09:06 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

:bump:

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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: spacechildo]
    #24006850 - 01/13/17 11:06 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

If you wear a watch when doing sterile work...Take it off. That shit is a contamination vector...


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    #24008324 - 01/13/17 09:41 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Don't open a dirty plate in front of a flow hood.  If you got to clean a contaminated plate use a sab.


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    #24008421 - 01/13/17 11:03 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

If you have bubbles on top of your agar after poring a quick pass with a propane torch makes them pop. Agar like glass.


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    #24009505 - 01/14/17 10:57 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

When soaking grain, use cold water (especially if you soak for 24h+) and don't leave it hydrating in a warm place. Talking from personal experience, it started fermenting (probably yeast) and smelled like vomit...:mad:


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    #24009545 - 01/14/17 11:11 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Cut a hole in the lid of your sab and glue in a magnifying glass, helps get a good close up of the plate surface to spot contams and be more precise during transfers


Drill a flame port into the lower side of the sab, leave the torch outside the hole and simply stick the scalpel/syringe through the hole into the flame. Helps keep air currents way down because you're not taking your hands in and out of the sab between transfers


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    #24009546 - 01/14/17 11:11 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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When soaking grain, use cold water (especially if you soak for 24h+) and don't leave it hydrating in a warm place.




i soak wbs 24hr with near boiling water in a stockpot lid closed tight. left where ever.:shrug:


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    #24009556 - 01/14/17 11:14 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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When soaking grain, use cold water (especially if you soak for 24h+) and don't leave it hydrating in a warm place.




i soak wbs 24hr with near boiling water in a stockpot lid closed tight. left where ever.:shrug:




I don't know what happen man... but the grain was bubbling and smelled like vomit. Anyway I cleaned the PC, sterilized it and am soaking second batch right now... hmmm, maybe the boiling water actually makes sense, it could kill some of the assholes on the surface


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    #24009559 - 01/14/17 11:15 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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When soaking grain, use cold water (especially if you soak for 24h+) and don't leave it hydrating in a warm place.




i soak wbs 24hr with near boiling water in a stockpot lid closed tight. left where ever.:shrug:




I don't know what happen man... but the grain was bubbling and smelled like vomit. Anyway I cleaned the PC, sterilized it and am soaking second batch right now... hmmm, maybe the boiling water actually makes sense, it could kill some of the assholes on the surface


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: mushhiehunter]
    #24009563 - 01/14/17 11:16 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

its near boiling from the tap. i turned the hot water up on my waterheater. be careful doing that. you can scald yourself easily.

and it losses its temp quickly. its not like im bucket tekking wbs... although...:rolleyes:

its going to be slightly bubbly/fermented. leave some grains stuck to the pot and the sprout in a few days :p dont dump them in the drain.


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    #24009583 - 01/14/17 11:24 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

or simply dont soak for anywhere close to 24 hrs :super:


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    #24009588 - 01/14/17 11:27 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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or simply dont soak for anywhere close to 24 hrs :super:




i figured 24hr for no simmer birdseed. its all ive read. would be nice if i could do 12hr.. maybe i'll try.


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    #24009974 - 01/14/17 02:53 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

foomans never worked well for me. stalled jars... might have been a noob with the water content though. i should give it another shot.

Cult tip! dont get too set in your ways. try a tek again if you failed before. ive come along way since i last did foomans.:thumbup:


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    #24009982 - 01/14/17 02:55 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Ive been doing the 12 hour soak and 20 min boil thing.


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    #24010056 - 01/14/17 03:22 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Cut a hole in the lid of your sab and glue in a magnifying glass, helps get a good close up of the plate surface to spot contams and be more precise during transfers


Drill a flame port into the lower side of the sab, leave the torch outside the hole and simply stick the scalpel/syringe through the hole into the flame. Helps keep air currents way down because you're not taking your hands in and out of the sab between transfers





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    #24011039 - 01/14/17 10:53 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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foomans never worked well for me. stalled jars... might have been a noob with the water content though. i should give it another shot.

Cult tip! dont get too set in your ways. try a tek again if you failed before. ive come along way since i last did foomans.:thumbup:




Fooman's WBS prep helped me be so much more efficient. I hope you can get it going this time around!


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    #24011062 - 01/14/17 11:09 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

im fine doing 24hr soak no simmer but reviewing foomans tek i basically already do his tek
just not with a 'rolling boil'

maybe i could bucket tek the birdseed to really keep the heat up and get 100% water content quicker..
ill play around with it. just as long as its hydrated and doesnt clump, im good.


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    #24011103 - 01/14/17 11:53 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Do NOT rely on cooking times with grain prep. it doesnt matter if it takes someone a 30 min soak or 40 min soak, the volume of grain and water is not constant, each stove is different and their are many other factors that have small influence

rely on manually checking your grains to ensure theyre at proper hydration. this avoids under cooking them and over cooking them. thanks Tmethyl!


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    #24011201 - 01/15/17 01:14 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Rolling boil, dump on rye, soak 1hour~ strain, load, and PC 90 mins 16psi

Mush- did you wait a day or so after making those fooman jars for the grains to absorb the moisture?


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    #24013230 - 01/15/17 09:28 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

IME, colonized grain>agar produces much more robust and fast-growing mycelium than MS>agar.


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    #24013277 - 01/15/17 09:44 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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IME, colonized grain>agar produces much more robust and fast-growing mycelium than MS>agar.



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I like to do ms to small amounts of grain and then shake @ 30%. once recovered  you can just take one of the colonizing  grains to agar. :thumbup:


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    #24013322 - 01/15/17 10:12 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Well, yeah. There's no spore germination time.. so you save 3 to 7 days.


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I g2g with sterile hemostats super easy to grab a piece with


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    #24014351 - 01/16/17 11:06 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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Well, yeah. There's no spore germination time.. so you save 3 to 7 days.




Also taking mycelium from a high nutrient medium of grain to a low medium of agar will increase vigor. also from ms you will also be isolating as you do this, which will also increase vigor and health, granted you get a good iso.


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    #24014690 - 01/16/17 01:10 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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5 Gallon Elastic Opening Paint Strainer Bags work great for rinsing off your perlite without that much of a mess.






I use the smaller ones to strain my agar before i use pastys prepour tek.


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    #24027544 - 01/21/17 08:25 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Well, yeah. There's no spore germination time.. so you save 3 to 7 days.




Also taking mycelium from a high nutrient medium of grain to a low medium of agar will increase vigor. also from ms you will also be isolating as you do this, which will also increase vigor and health, granted you get a good iso.




That makes perfect sense, as the mycelium is obviously going to become more aggressive searching for nutrients. So if if i were to do the opposite like take mycelium from a low nutrient medium of agar to a high nutrient medium of grain, yet it still increases with great vigor & aggression, would that make for a promising iso?


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    #24038094 - 01/25/17 09:04 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)




That makes perfect sense, as the mycelium is obviously going to become more aggressive searching for nutrients. So if if i were to do the opposite like take mycelium from a low nutrient medium of agar to a high nutrient medium of grain, yet it still increases with great vigor & aggression, would that make for a promising iso?





What percentage do you use for this. Malt for instance?


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    #24039525 - 01/25/17 06:42 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

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    #24052501 - 01/30/17 06:19 PM (7 years, 4 hours ago)

Ok, reposting this in the appropriate thread, I posted it in "true confessions" by accident.

If you don't own a flowhood but love lc's there's a way I've come up with to noc liquid broth with minimum exposure to air, very very quick 'n clean and far less riskier than noccing with agar wedges. Here it is:

-Sterilize a syringe with some distilled water in it, the thinner the needle the better (I use a 23 G needle for this).
-Sterilize the liquid broth of your choice, however many ml you want.
-Choose a clean plate, I prefer a plate that's at least a third transfer from ms because that'll allow you to see what the fuck's actually going on in the plate more clearly. Choose the spot that looks the cleanest and with the most organized growth, it doesn't necessarily have to be the leading edge.
-Prep your SAB as usual, put all these things in it, pre-open the plate (if you use no-pours like me) and the lc jar.
-Flame sterilize needle, grab the plate, squirt some drops of water from the needle in the sab to cool it, pierce only once the spot of agar of your choice until you touch the base of the plate with the needle. Now take the syringe and squirt a small jet of water into the lc broth.

Done.

To avoid confusion, you don't have to squirt any water in the plate, none at all, only pierce it once with the cooled needle, that's it.

Pics, these lc's are 1 week old. The metallic balls you see are from some blender bottles :lol: they're nice to break the myc apart to speed things up.



I already tested one that's not pictured and it's very clean. I'd like to stress that you only need a few myc cells to get growth, that's all it takes, so you only need to pierce the agar once with a thin needle. You won't see anything in the lc and you'd probably think it won't work, but it will. You'll start to see a tiny fleck that's like a minuscule scrap of paper, that's what you want.


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    #24052685 - 01/30/17 07:28 PM (7 years, 3 hours ago)

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Ok, reposting this in the appropriate thread, I posted it in "true confessions" by accident.

If you don't own a flowhood but love lc's there's a way I've come up with to noc liquid broth with minimum exposure to air, very very quick 'n clean and far less riskier than noccing with agar wedges. Here it is:

-Sterilize a syringe with some distilled water in it, the thinner the needle the better (I use a 23 G needle for this).
-Sterilize the liquid broth of your choice, however many ml you want.
-Choose a clean plate, I prefer a plate that's at least a third transfer from ms because that'll allow you to see what the fuck's actually going on in the plate more clearly. Choose the spot that looks the cleanest and with the most organized growth, it doesn't necessarily have to be the leading edge.
-Prep your SAB as usual, put all these things in it, pre-open the plate (if you use no-pours like me) and the lc jar.
-Flame sterilize needle, grab the plate, squirt some drops of water from the needle in the sab to cool it, pierce only once the spot of agar of your choice until you touch the base of the plate with the needle. Now take the syringe and squirt a small jet of water into the lc broth.

Done.

To avoid confusion, you don't have to squirt any water in the plate, none at all, only pierce it once with the cooled needle, that's it.

Pics, these lc's are 1 week old. The metallic balls you see are from some blender bottles :lol: they're nice to break the myc apart to speed things up.



I already tested one that's not pictured and it's very clean. I'd like to stress that you only need a few myc cells to get growth, that's all it takes, so you only need to pierce the agar once with a thin needle. You won't see anything in the lc and you'd probably think it won't work, but it will. You'll start to see a tiny fleck that's like a minuscule scrap of paper, that's what you want.





This is pretty cool man, I wanna give this a try.

I've just used LME lc in the past. What do you prefer?


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    #24052712 - 01/30/17 07:35 PM (7 years, 3 hours ago)

I use lme at 0,3% strength. You should be fine with 0,2% lme (1 gram for 500 ml of water) and that'll give you a very clear lc and by the time the myc fully colonizes the lc it should almost be as clear as water.


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Pics, these lc's are 1 week old. The metallic balls you see are from some blender bottles :lol: they're nice to break the myc apart to speed things up.






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    #24052845 - 01/30/17 08:28 PM (7 years, 2 hours ago)

my preferred implement for taking agar transfers has become an empty spore syringe. the narrow shape of the needle allows you to make much more precise segments and really target a specific area.


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    #24052852 - 01/30/17 08:30 PM (7 years, 2 hours ago)

That's exactly what I do with LC and agar plates to avoid having a wedge in my LC. It's also a lot easier to see growth. You can also just use any sterile utensil and just scrape off the myc from the plate and swipe it off on  the inside edge of the glass lid.


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    #24052855 - 01/30/17 08:32 PM (7 years, 2 hours ago)

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    #24052884 - 01/30/17 08:41 PM (7 years, 1 hour ago)

Well a syringe should work for transfers but the thing is that if you transfer a very small sample it's going to take much longer to colonize the plate. I'd imagine it would very useful if you want to isolate strains.
With lc's is doesn't matter so much if you only transfer a few cells because you can greatly speed things up by shaking gently if you're poor like me or by using a magnetic stirrer.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: mushboy]
    #24052943 - 01/30/17 09:01 PM (7 years, 1 hour ago)

thanks, mushboy. hope everything is going good with your pan projects.

Josex, it does take a little longer but i don't know if it's that much. here's a 3x pan cyan transfer at 18 days of growth. the transfer on this was smaller than a grain of rice. two other transfers from this round grew out even faster but they wound up showing signs of infection.



i first tried it as part of an attempt to pull some mycelium of an infected plate. it worked out so i've just been using it since but i would agree that as the mycelium gets cleaned up it's not really necessary to take such small segments but i just like to get as many as i can.


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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Panarchist]
    #24052951 - 01/30/17 09:03 PM (7 years, 1 hour ago)

in a few days ill be spawning this half filled quart to some cvg.
ill do a mini tray inside a mini mono. i can really control the conditions
with those two working together.



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Re: The Cultivation Tip of the Day thread [Re: Panarchist]
    #24053003 - 01/30/17 09:24 PM (7 years, 1 hour ago)

sounds like a plan, hook it up!!:thumbup:


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