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XUL
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California said: Sheekle isn't nearly as butthurt, petty, and childish as XUL obviously is.
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CookieCrumbs
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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: XUL] 2
#23993847 - 01/08/17 09:20 PM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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XUL said: Woops, wrong person.
Regardless, You can do it without being a moderator, but it's a principle.
I know I will never become a moderator because of this post and those before it. That proves my point.
What I am trying to say is that if you wish to help this website, you cannot. You may not wish to help this site, but rather you must be picked by a team of pickers. Those who pick your leadership based on their own standards rather than those of the website.
Members > Mods > Admins
Members recommended me as a moderator, mods agreed, admins approved it, now I'm a mod, and that's the way it should be imo.
If members did choose who would moderate then it very well could be a popularity buddy buddy thing. I've seen it happen on other sites. All you need is a large population of fuckwits active at just the right time when everyone is on vacation and then you get Trump. Er. Pris... er... 
Don't whistle and argue with me. Pris is good people and I don't care about Trump. It's a joke.
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psi
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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: XUL] 1
#23993853 - 01/08/17 09:23 PM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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XUL said: Considering you have no empirical evidence about the fact, means you may be mistaken.
It's a guess, but that is all.
For sure, but the assumption that asking to be a mod really does mean that you can never be one is less productive IMO.
If you take the statement at face value and assume that you've already blown your chance by asking, it seems like you have nothing to lose by making a big stink over it. If you don't, you may be more likely to consider the question "Does complaining about this in a Pub thread make me look like a good candidate for the position I want, or a bad one?"
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Dark_Star
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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: psi] 2
#23993923 - 01/08/17 09:56 PM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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Why the fuck would you want the job in the first place?
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mushboy
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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: Dark_Star]
#23994146 - 01/08/17 11:56 PM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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i only read the OPers post but i think a thread like this is why you arnt a mod.
i come from the cult forum(check my post stats) visit the pub when im bored but you cant blame the shroomery for 'leadership is fueled by its own agenda.'
you are fueled by your agenda. i am fulled by mine. thats a baseless argument. imo 
why the hell would you want too deal with a bunch of winy brats bickering online all day?? like super cereal.
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Prisoner#1
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CookieCrumbs said:
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XUL said: Woops, wrong person.
Regardless, You can do it without being a moderator, but it's a principle.
I know I will never become a moderator because of this post and those before it. That proves my point.
What I am trying to say is that if you wish to help this website, you cannot. You may not wish to help this site, but rather you must be picked by a team of pickers. Those who pick your leadership based on their own standards rather than those of the website.
Members > Mods > Admins
Members recommended me as a moderator, mods agreed, admins approved it, now I'm a mod, and that's the way it should be imo.
holy fucking shit... you're a mod?
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Call-Me-Bob
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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: Dark_Star]
#23994176 - 01/09/17 12:13 AM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Why the fuck would you want the job in the first place? 
It pays well
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Enlil
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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: XUL] 4
#23994193 - 01/09/17 12:22 AM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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XUL said: This community is only for those who embrace the ideology of Ythan and his minions. It reminds me of Hitler.
-XUL
I haven't read the thread, and I don't care enough to do so. I just wanted to remind you, since you seem to have forgotten, that this site is a privately owned computer running privately owned software, and connected to a bandwidth provider that is paid for by private funds.
You're using someone else's stuff for free.
This isn't a democracy any more than your living room is. If you invite me to your living room for a party, I don't get to decide how it should be decorated. You do. This site is the admin's party. You're a guest. Conduct yourself accordingly.
I just clean the toilets and take out the trash.
That's the basics of a moderator position here. It's an honor to be chosen because it's recognition of some kind, but the actual work isn't exactly rewarding stuff. You're the bad guy if you ban someone and the bad guy if you don't. It takes a lot of the fun out of the site, frankly.
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Shroomslip
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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: XUL]
#23994199 - 01/09/17 12:26 AM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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People who ask for or seek out power usually cannot handle it and become corrupt. Therefore his tek on automatically denying anyone who asks for it, is pretty legit.
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pachoo
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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: Shroomslip] 1
#23994240 - 01/09/17 01:10 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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I thought the whole 'chosen mod' thing came from being asked if you wanted the job. Like a mod-raffle win. Like, Surprise!!! Someone recommended you as a mod.
I don't really understand why it would be such a bad thing if you asked to help a specific subforum. Why would that automatically put you on the list to not become one? There really isn't any power from mods, so only weird people would think they are getting that out of it.
OP, How long have you asked about this?
Who did you ask?
And maybe not insult the creator by putting him next to an actual evil dictator....
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LogicaL Chaos
Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs




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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: XUL]
#23994262 - 01/09/17 01:38 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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XUL said:
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Middleman said: Shroomery U is a pain in the ass, you can have it.
I can hopefully help organize it. Can you give me the chance?
Alright, i see your plea.
Im not sure what it takes to become a mod, but begging for it might not be in Ythans and company's interest.
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XUL
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LogicaL Chaos said:
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XUL said:
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Middleman said: Shroomery U is a pain in the ass, you can have it.
I can hopefully help organize it. Can you give me the chance?
Alright, i see your plea.
Im not sure what it takes to become a mod, but begging for it might not be in Ythans and company's interest.
Do you see me begging?
No.
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XUL
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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: Enlil]
#23994715 - 01/09/17 09:49 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Enlil said:
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XUL said: This community is only for those who embrace the ideology of Ythan and his minions. It reminds me of Hitler.
-XUL
I haven't read the thread, and I don't care enough to do so. I just wanted to remind you, since you seem to have forgotten, that this site is a privately owned computer running privately owned software, and connected to a bandwidth provider that is paid for by private funds.
You're using someone else's stuff for free.
This isn't a democracy any more than your living room is. If you invite me to your living room for a party, I don't get to decide how it should be decorated. You do. This site is the admin's party. You're a guest. Conduct yourself accordingly.
I just clean the toilets and take out the trash.
That's the basics of a moderator position here. It's an honor to be chosen because it's recognition of some kind, but the actual work isn't exactly rewarding stuff. You're the bad guy if you ban someone and the bad guy if you don't. It takes a lot of the fun out of the site, frankly.
I don't want to ban anybody. Being able to add a sticky thread would be a start.
I want to clean up the Shroomery University and organize it. I am passionate about it.
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specialpeopleclub


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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: XUL]
#23994738 - 01/09/17 10:00 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Being a mod isnt about banning. Its about being fair, values, respect for the forum and the community.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: XUL] 2
#23994741 - 01/09/17 10:02 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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XUL
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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23994777 - 01/09/17 10:23 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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XUL said: Do you see me begging?
No.
yes
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23993225#23993225
Be specific. At which point was I begging?
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CookieCrumbs
Fucked off to the pub


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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23994799 - 01/09/17 10:36 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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CookieCrumbs said:
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XUL said: Woops, wrong person.
Regardless, You can do it without being a moderator, but it's a principle.
I know I will never become a moderator because of this post and those before it. That proves my point.
What I am trying to say is that if you wish to help this website, you cannot. You may not wish to help this site, but rather you must be picked by a team of pickers. Those who pick your leadership based on their own standards rather than those of the website.
Members > Mods > Admins
Members recommended me as a moderator, mods agreed, admins approved it, now I'm a mod, and that's the way it should be imo.
holy fucking shit... you're a mod?
Yep. And I have recently confirmed that both you and Koods are Ythan s
Good post Enlil. Sums everything up pretty well.
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CookieCrumbs
Fucked off to the pub


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specialpeopleclub said: Being a mod isnt about banning. Its about being fair, values, respect for the forum and the community.
No it's not about banning but banning is the primary form of discipline mods have. It's the biggest tool of consequence we have to ensure that toxic people do not remain to negatively influence the community with their behavior. And I can almost guarantee you plenty of people read that and thought "well why is ____ banned but ____ isn't?" and that's exactly what Enlil is talking about.
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Cagney
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Being a mod should be just like any other leadership, mgmt. position. It's ALL about being fair, firm, and consistent.
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specialpeopleclub


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Re: Lies about the shroomery [Re: Cagney]
#23994890 - 01/09/17 11:12 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Cagney said: Being a mod should be just like any other leadership, mgmt. position. It's ALL about being fair, firm, and consistent.
No, you are thinking of mods somewhere else. This isnt the place for such grandiose ideals
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