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Lizardeyes
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MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow)
#23992661 - 01/08/17 02:56 PM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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Hey guys, I began my first try at this 8 days ago. I knocked up two brf bags and two jars, With Spore Syringes. I took all the precautions, Used a sterile still air enviroment etc. 8-9 days later they are still no signs of growth. No mycelium or any another thing (mold etc) The only notice I can tell is the two BRF bags smell more "strongly" than they did before, The jars are airtight with selfhealing ports so I never smelt anything then and now on them...But with the bags its not a sour or bad smell its the original earthy smell just stronger. I keep them anywhere from 70-75 degrees and give them some ambient light a few hours a day., Artificially of course lol.
Any idea whats going on? If you need anymore details of my situation just ask.
All equipment (jars bags and syringes) was ordered not self-made. All reputable vendors. Being new I didnt wanna make anything "wrong"
Edited by Lizardeyes (01/08/17 03:14 PM)
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: Lizardeyes]
#23992862 - 01/08/17 04:00 PM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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Anyone?
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: Lizardeyes]
#23992904 - 01/08/17 04:12 PM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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I started my first grow about two weeks ago. I didn't get signs of growth until about 8 days.
Also, your day your jars are airtight? The four holes on the top work to bring air in forum the mycelium to grow. They should be left uncovered.
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: Lizardeyes]
#23993271 - 01/08/17 06:27 PM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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Lizardeyes said: Being new I didnt wanna make anything "wrong"
i get it but honestly how can you trust the vendor when you are now 'misusing' the product by growing illegal mushrooms. how do you know the 'vendor' isnt some stoner half paying attention?
spores can take a week or so just to germinate let alone show visible signs. be patient. read teks. stalk the shroomery forums. ignore shroomery.org; only use shroomery.org/forums
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Lizardeyes
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: mushboy]
#23993397 - 01/08/17 06:58 PM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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They have a filter, I meant you cant really smell anything through a jar as oppossed the bags. The vendors are people your site reccomends so i don't know where that came from.... I have stalked, done research and seen jars colonize in 4 days O.O and thats why I was making sure.
Edited by Lizardeyes (01/08/17 07:00 PM)
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: Lizardeyes]
#23994941 - 01/09/17 11:38 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Been 10 days now. Nothing I'm gonna upload some pics of a few of my Bags/Jars.
Edited by Lizardeyes (01/09/17 11:43 AM)
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: Lizardeyes]
#23995012 - 01/09/17 11:55 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Lizardeyes said: I have stalked, done research and seen jars colonize in 4 days O.O and thats why I was making sure.

from spores to a brf cake in 4days? no. you did not see that. you saw something else like blenderless inoculate or liquid culture. do more research.
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Lizardeyes said: The vendors are people your site reccomends
1. its not my site. im a forum poster. 2. as it is not my site i would never under any circumstance recommend purchased jars. unless you are watching someone make them and they sell you one for 5bux. 3. do more research.
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: mushboy]
#23995046 - 01/09/17 12:07 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Lizardeyes said: I have stalked, done research and seen jars colonize in 4 days O.O and thats why I was making sure.

from spores to a brf cake in 4days? no. you did not see that. you saw something else like blenderless inoculate or liquid culture. do more research.
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Lizardeyes said: The vendors are people your site reccomends
1. its not my site. im a forum poster. 2. as it is not my site i would never under any circumstance recommend purchased jars. unless you are watching someone make them and they sell you one for 5bux. 3. do more research.
Spore to first signs of mycelium growth..... I know its not your site.... I don't understand why you are trolling me. But you need to stop taking shit so personally and literally. I'm not a fucking idiot.
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: Lizardeyes]
#23995048 - 01/09/17 12:08 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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didnt realize i was 'trolling you' im sorry.
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: mushboy]
#23995064 - 01/09/17 12:13 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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I make a post saying this was my first attempt at this and I used reputable vendors you immeaditly start trashing how some half baked stoner made them? And talk about how I'm breaking the law? You give this site a really really bad first impression for a new comer. I have stalked and did research I'm not a idiot. I'm not some kid either.
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: mushboy]
#23995092 - 01/09/17 12:23 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Lizardeyes said: Being new I didnt wanna make anything "wrong"
i get it
i did the same thing when i started and i got poorly prepped jars. grow fail. i was upset. said to vendor 'the jars arrived but they seem really wet and i think they will contaminate'
the response i got was 'since you misused them in order to grow active mushrooms we can not replace'
at no point did i mention anything about what i was growing. just that i thought the prep was off. i shit you not.
i tried to point out what types of people can be employed to mass produce a product used for illegal activities. intended or not. and you are better off making your own for far less $$
all this advice for free yet im a troll. you posted this information. dont be upset what people have to say about it.
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: Lizardeyes]
#23995120 - 01/09/17 12:37 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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and u really didn't specify anything so no one can help you like how much did you inoculate into the jars, how did you sterilize the needle in between inoculations, where are you storing the jars/bags
ALSO this might help you, when i was sterilizing my jars i had just prepared (steaming in a pot for 1 hour and a half)there was not enough space for all the jars. there was only enough room for 5 jars to fit, so the other 5 jars that i couldn't sterilize (because i only had 1 pot) i set aside until the next day and then i sterilized them and inoculated them as i did with the first 5 i sterilized the day before.
2 months later the first 5 i had sterilized right after preparing colonized. but the other 5 that i put aside for a day until the pot was able to be used, didn't colonize at all, in fact there still right here not colonized.
>>>>so i came to the assumption that the other 5 didn't colonize because they lost all their moisture (from waiting a day), so maybe the bags and jars you got lost their moisture from shipping, if it took a day or so it probably did
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Edited by cubensis333 (01/09/17 12:42 PM)
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: cubensis333]
#23995239 - 01/09/17 01:25 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Thanks for actually trying to help me, As far of lack of moisture, No thats not it, If anything I'm hoping I didn't inject too much solution. I administered 1-1.5 in each. Theres no wet spots though. I went in through the noc ports and went into the side (so I could see the first signs of colonization) sadly which I am yet to do lol. http://imgur.com/a/nRbC1
Edited by Lizardeyes (01/09/17 01:30 PM)
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: Lizardeyes]
#23995339 - 01/09/17 01:56 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: amidogen]
#23995387 - 01/09/17 02:17 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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70-75 degrees, I was giving them light 8 hours a day via a LED heatless indoor growlight, but after 10 days I have switched to total darkness. Halfpint jars and 12 ounce bags. I have more spores/bags if these are bad from too much solution. I bought enough spores so I could make my own sub later once I learned the hang of it. If I do that though I think I'd like rye berries best.
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: Lizardeyes]
#23995401 - 01/09/17 02:25 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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you hated on me for trolling you and you think either 8hrs or total darkness is good for colonizing.??
leave your jars on a shelf or something. total darkness is like a decade old practice.
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3. do more research.
I have stalked and did research
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: mushboy]
#23995420 - 01/09/17 02:35 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: mushboy]
#23995426 - 01/09/17 02:37 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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No...I know its a old practice. I said after 10 days I did that. I know ambient light doesnt harm growth. I built a place to store them with a light I built in. I've took the time and steps to try to do this the right way. I'll Just knock up some more and see how they react with half the dosage I used before. Def not gonna re-inoculate any. Hope its not my spores thats bad, but thats about impossible. I ordered 6 different strains from two different companies surely one should be pulling through lol.
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: Lizardeyes]
#23995460 - 01/09/17 02:52 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 01:12 PM)
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: amidogen]
#23995501 - 01/09/17 03:14 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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I understand what you are saying. I was seeing if it would "trigger something" for the hell of it. Bacterial you think so? The picture on here is massive it doesnt do it justice, I posted a imgur link where they are scaled down, guess that would explain a few things. I was very sterile and used a SAB would too much moisture/solution cause bacteria regardless if it wasnt from my end? and I don't just have jars, I have jars and bags with ports they came in two different shipments so did my spores. I'm pretty sure everything isnt shit I ordered or I hope so at least.
Edited by Lizardeyes (01/09/17 03:26 PM)
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Re: MYCELIUM CULTIVATION??? (Help First Grow) [Re: Lizardeyes]
#23998167 - 01/10/17 12:58 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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I don't know as much about bags, but the self healing injection points on lids can depend on where you inject it. If you inject towards the center of the jar it can take a few extra days to see growth because the mycelium has to grow towards the outside of the jar. 70f is lower on the end of temps and they grow far slower. 10 days or longer is not unheard of.
The general consensus over the years has been that it is better to produce your own materials. The problem is not always with the supplier but with the shipping. The handling of products can lead to issues outside of either party's control.
While it is normally the only way to get spores, the packages can be exposed to high temperatures in shipping. While it doesn't happen often, it can. Also some mail facilities and carriers irradiate mail.
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