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THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in?
    #23992040 - 01/08/17 10:28 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

As you may know California is going to put extra taxes and possibly obesity/diabetes warnings on sugary/hfcs soda drinks

Their motivation is not just to get extra tax revenue but also because research has shown that in the average American diet sugary/hfcs soda drinks are the WORST OFFENDER where it comes to Obesity, Diabetes and a host of other illnesses you won't immediately expect such as cardiovascular disease.

What is a can of soda?

Fizzy Demineralized Water
Lots of sugar or HFCS or chemical sweeteners
Natural and chemical additives
an acid like citric acid
Sometimes caffeine.

The only thing more or less OK about it would be the fizzy water BUT! Thats not mineral water but rather demineralized water so every drink tastes the same and demineralized water is stripped of its nutrients and osmotic value so even the WATER is shit!

The science is there: sugar and HCFS in excess of an ounce a day in all your foods is acutely bad for you and probably half an ounce would be closer to what your body likes.



:havesomescience:

Likewise, sugar free sweetened soda is bad for you, not just because of the questionable chemicals that are used as sweeteners but for the simple fact that tasting sweet in your mouth makes you produce extra insulin to deal with the sugar, that ISNT there, so the insulin instead turns the blood sugar that keeps you satiated and feeling fresh into bodyfat, making you fatter and hungry within about an hour, and closer to diabetes because you did something crazy with your insulin.


My proposal:

Let's, and thats the soda drinkers among us, commit ourselves to a simple experiment, a proof of concept diet! For 100 days starting when you want we're going to swap our soda cans and bottles for fizzy mineral water cans and bottles. They fizz, they can be bought in the same sizes and are cheaper. No flavorings, fruit juice or other cheating, just, swap out your soda for Mineral Water/Seltzer Water/Club Soda/Carbonated Water. A can for a can, a bottle for a bottle, or drink even more! Just make sure there are no additives.

If you find yourself more hungry eat something sensible fitting to your diet that isn't sugary, but starchy is OK. No honey, that's a fructose sugar too!

If the science is correct, in these 100 days if you are a regular soda drinker and stick with the plan you likely will start feeling noticably better and if you drank more of it and just stick with carbonated water, you will inevitably lose some weight.

If you know sugary stuff is bad and therefore use artifically sweetened stuff and dont believe it is bad for you, you have the opportunity to test this on your body and experience it yourself with you as the sole judge.

THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in?


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992067 - 01/08/17 10:39 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

I'll continue doing this. I haven't drank soda in a long time.

My dad hasn't drank soda in like 40 years. He says he used to be chubby, but then he stopped drinking soda and lost a lot of weight.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23992076 - 01/08/17 10:41 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

Kombucha should be allowed to drink during this, imo.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23992089 - 01/08/17 10:46 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

I used to drink a big bottle of diet coke a day many years ago and had all sorts of ailments that the doctor couldnt place that VANISHED when I stopped drinking that crap!

I drink maybe 2 or 3 cans of soda a year now.

But, I did a proof of concept diet some months ago where I ate crappy, white bread and all that, but with the exception that I kept all sugar under 30 grams a day as per the WHO recommendation. To my astonishment I lost 10 pounds in 6 weeks or so that stayed off  in the months after so it wasnt water weight and there was no voracious rebound.

CUTTING SUGAR WORKS.

So, two and two together this soda challenge will help a lot of Shoomerites because most Shoomerites are young Americans and precisly they tend to drink the most soda.

So, here we go!


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992094 - 01/08/17 10:48 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

Diet sodas are waaaay worse for you too...


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992100 - 01/08/17 10:51 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

Caffeine has a number of health benefits in moderation

I dont drink soda often, so Im not in


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23992104 - 01/08/17 10:51 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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sanchothestoner said:
Kombucha should be allowed to drink during this, imo.





Well made Kombucha, so that the sugars are digested, of course is fine, as would be unsweetened herbal teas, but for the proof of concept diet i kept it simple.

People will notice feeling better and their body will motivate them to take this further, like no amount of talking and explaining can.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23992111 - 01/08/17 10:54 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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Diet sodas are waaaay worse for you too...




It was total shit and once my body showed me the way, how my health improved not drinking that stuff, I havent had a bottle of it in my house since, now 10 years or so.

ITS CRAP!

But people need to experience it to believe it. You can make anything sound reasonable or silly, your body must show the way.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992130 - 01/08/17 11:04 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

I'm in :highfive: just water, tea, black coffee, and chocolate milk from here on out.  Those ones I need, but I think I can do without soda.  I never can believe how much sugar is actually in there.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23992136 - 01/08/17 11:08 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

Its a trip huh?




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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992139 - 01/08/17 11:09 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in?





I've been in for the last 30 years, in those 30 years I have drank maybe a total of around 20 cokes

once you're away from them they taste bad, downright gross


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23992142 - 01/08/17 11:10 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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Asante said:
THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in?





I've been in for the last 30 years, in those 30 years I have drank maybe a total of around 20 cokes

once you're away from them they taste bad, downright gross



Same it's pretty much all water and booze for me. Although I don't find them gross so much as unbelievably sweet


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23992154 - 01/08/17 11:16 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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Asante said:
THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in?





I've been in for the last 30 years, in those 30 years I have drank maybe a total of around 20 cokes

once you're away from them they taste bad, downright gross





They do, yes, I used to love Coke, but now it has an udertaste of machine oil and moments later you get that icky feeling of having consumed too much sugar with no nutrients to show for it.




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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992163 - 01/08/17 11:21 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

heck yeah.  i don't drink that shit.  i do however make my own kombucha, and i will continue to do so.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23992164 - 01/08/17 11:22 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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sanchothestoner said:
Kombucha should be allowed to drink during this, imo.





his point in all of this is to get away from sugars which isnt a bad idea, what is a
bad idea is buying into some bullshit about kombucha being some kind of super food
as the hipsters and hippies are trying to push it off as. if you enjoy it, drink it
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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992168 - 01/08/17 11:23 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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They do, yes, I used to love Coke, but now it has an udertaste of machine oil and moments later you get that icky feeling of having consumed too much sugar with no nutrients to show for it.




it's funny you say that because it does have a somewhat burnt hydraulic oil taste


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23992174 - 01/08/17 11:25 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

I already quit drinking soda in favor of sugar free sparkling water. Probably two years ago now.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992177 - 01/08/17 11:26 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

I haven't had soda in over a decade, so sure, I'm in.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: TNK]
    #23992226 - 01/08/17 12:00 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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I already quit drinking soda in favor of sugar free sparkling water. Probably two years ago now.





sparkling water should just be carbonated water, why add sugar


BTW, I just stumbled upon this

http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/01/concern-trolling-is-bullshit/


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23992234 - 01/08/17 12:07 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

you're like an inception concern troll


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23992244 - 01/08/17 12:12 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/01/concern-trolling-is-bullshit/




You must agree with everything they say, no questions or its back to the tolerance camp.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23992260 - 01/08/17 12:18 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

Im addicted to Coca cola Vanilla. I need help.

Its so flipping good thou! I cant resist it!!! :wtfsonic:


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23992291 - 01/08/17 12:30 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

There were years in my life where I didn't drink water. Just soda or other flavored drinks.

I used to wake up with a fucked feeling in my stomach every day.

I used to puke and have a messed up stomach every single time I tripped or drank alcohol.

I had a wild trip in the woods with a couple friends, and while I was drinking some water in my tent in the morning, it just felt so right. I could see the water cleaning the inside of my stomach. I instantly had the revelation that soda was slowly killing me. That if I cut just soda from my life I could probably add YEARS to my life.

I cut out soda that day, and have only had a few since then. Mostly 7-ups that I mixed with whiskey.

My trips are way way more enjoyable! I've been able to push my limits far beyond what I thought possible. Before taking even a moderate dose meant I spent at least the first half of the trip being sick. Now besides a little expected discomfort on the come up, I feel fantastic even on large doses.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Supachopped719]
    #23992299 - 01/08/17 12:32 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

7 and 7s are delicious.

I drink water most during the day, but occassionally, i get cravings for sodas. Occassionally :nerd:


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992306 - 01/08/17 12:35 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

My number one addiction lol I'm really stoping this year hopefully lol


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23992310 - 01/08/17 12:37 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

Shit I am in

I love diet soda though :sad:

Perhaps you can recommend some classy waters


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992335 - 01/08/17 12:51 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

i've already been soda free since september :grin: i used to be a regular soda drinker. the amount of pepsi i drank was disgusting. for the past few months i have just been drinking juice and tea. i feel noticably better. i get a lot less headaches and i feel so good waking up whereas i used to hate waking up because i felt like shit. :thumbdown: good luck to those of you partaking. whenever you crave that bubbly goodness just remember what it's doing to your health :tongue:


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23992363 - 01/08/17 01:01 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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sanchothestoner said:
Kombucha should be allowed to drink during this, imo.





his point in all of this is to get away from sugars which isnt a bad idea, what is a
bad idea is buying into some bullshit about kombucha being some kind of super food
as the hipsters and hippies are trying to push it off as. if you enjoy it, drink it
but dont go into it thinking it has some magical properties, it's just fermented
sweet tea which is in actuality a wine that will give you a really bad hang over if
you over do it, assuming you arent making your own and instead growing aspergillus




lol probiotics and b vitamins aren't magical properties :lol:

and i know the people who make the kombucha i drink and i know what kinda of scoby is in there.  you can't argue the health benefits it has.  i never said it was some magical drink.... it's just something that's good for you.  and i've never had a hangover from kombucha, or even heard of that...


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: PsilocybinPrincess]
    #23992370 - 01/08/17 01:04 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

Juice is basically unhealthy as well, at least pasturized juice without pulp.
Most of the nutrition in fruits are in the solids (pulp), and boiling reduces whats left in the juice.
So most juice is sugar water.

Typically I just drink water, maybe something like khefir or kamboucha here and there, done with coffee


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23992376 - 01/08/17 01:05 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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Juice is basically unhealthy as well, at least pasturized juice without pulp.
Most of the nutrition in fruits are in the solids (pulp), and boiling reduces whats left in the juice.
So most juice is sugar water.

Typically I just drink water, maybe something like khefir or kamboucha here and there, done with coffee




This is true. Cold pressed juices are where it's at. Juice from the grocery store has likely been pasteurized.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Supachopped719]
    #23992388 - 01/08/17 01:09 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

Fresh smoothies are pretty dank too

$5 milkshakes

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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23992427 - 01/08/17 01:25 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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sanchothestoner said:
Kombucha should be allowed to drink during this, imo.





his point in all of this is to get away from sugars which isnt a bad idea, what is a
bad idea is buying into some bullshit about kombucha being some kind of super food
as the hipsters and hippies are trying to push it off as. if you enjoy it, drink it
but dont go into it thinking it has some magical properties, it's just fermented
sweet tea which is in actuality a wine that will give you a really bad hang over if
you over do it, assuming you arent making your own and instead growing aspergillus




lol probiotics and b vitamins aren't magical properties :lol:

and i know the people who make the kombucha i drink and i know what kinda of scoby is in there.  you can't argue the health benefits it has.




yeah, I can actually. candida, acetaldehyde and lead arent really healthy


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23992451 - 01/08/17 01:33 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

oh wow didn't know about the lead.  it seems to be only small amounts though.


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You are my heroin, but there's an abscess... God damn, I miss the vein!


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23992452 - 01/08/17 01:35 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

Lead is good for you. Once they started removing lead from everything people got soft. We need leaded gas so the exhaust fumes makes us feel alive.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23992457 - 01/08/17 01:36 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

and the other reasons seems to be for poor care of the scoby.  in ideal conditions, it should be fine.  aside from the alcohol.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23992528 - 01/08/17 02:04 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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sanchothestoner said:
oh wow didn't know about the lead.  it seems to be only small amounts though.





there have been a number of cases of lead poisoning from kombucha, typically is
leaches out of the glazes on ceramics from people that ferment theirs in old
earthware and ceramic pots, some people have used lead crystal thinking it's
simply glass. the scoby is a biosorbent, it will pick up heavy metal such as
mercury, copper, arsenic and lead, these in turn are released into your kombucha


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992551 - 01/08/17 02:15 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

I don't drink soda, have always preferred water/alcohol and also never enjoyed chocolate/sugar, whether in coffee or tea or candy, never my thing


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992627 - 01/08/17 02:46 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

I'll quit drinking soda.



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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: Asante]
    #23992671 - 01/08/17 03:02 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

I cannot even remember the last time I drank soda.

Probably well over 10 years ago.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: yogabunny]
    #23992689 - 01/08/17 03:08 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

I haven't had soda since 2013


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: blackhawk] * 1
    #23992693 - 01/08/17 03:09 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

I haven't had a soda since noon.


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Re: THE 100 DAYS WITHOUT SODA CHALLENGE - are you in? [Re: yogabunny]
    #23993020 - 01/08/17 04:50 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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I cannot even remember the last time I drank soda.

Probably well over 10 years ago.




Sweet LORD!

Im guessing u drink tea?

Do u remember what that soda was 10 years ago? :lol:


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