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BANANA.MAN
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Hey. Tracers seem to be the most common visual effect for people and they seem to start at a low dose and early in the trip for alot of people.
I never get tracers. Ever. I get coulours on the edges of things and if im on shrooms i might have a haullucination that leaves a trace but real things never get tracers.
Do you guys get tracers? It seems kind of weird that i literally never get them. I want to know exactly how comon they are.
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Trypto-Fan
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I get them sober and always have.
They just get more intense tripping.
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AuroraBorealis88
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I chose rarely. I never understood what the big deal over tracers was, I get that shit sober...
If it happens to me while sober having it happen to me while on a psychedelic is gonna be like nothing, I'm not even going to notice it.
For me the most common visual effect is pareidolia.
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Trypto-Fan said: I get them sober and always have.
Fuck I knew I wasn't crazy.
I mean isn't it totally normal for this to happen sober anyways? Isn't this just how vision works? If something moves by you it's gonna look a little blurry or a little like a tracer.
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BANANA.MAN
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Trypto-Fan said: I get them sober and always have.
Fuck I knew I wasn't crazy.
I mean isn't it totally normal for this to happen sober anyways? Isn't this just how vision works? If something moves by you it's gonna look a little blurry or a little like a tracer.
I only get tracers if someone like throws or kicks a ball. I assume people mean on slow moving things or by changing the angle you are looking at things.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (01/08/17 10:18 AM)
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BANANA.MAN
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Guys if it looks exactly the same as when you are sober then they dont count.
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Take some Peganum Harmala seed and you'll definitely get some tracers, And Cannabis can potentiate it. I always get tracers from Harmalas or from Psychedelics.
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BANANA.MAN
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I get a glow of light around the edges of things sometimes. That doesnt seem to be what people mean though.
I have some syrian rue that been sitting around for a while. Im going to try it with my friend then combine it with mushrooms if it goes ok.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (01/08/17 10:22 AM)
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It happens with everything to some extent 
Even just me moving my hands or fingers slowly in front of my face shows them. Isn't the way a helicopter propeller looks essentially just an illusion caused by tracers? I know many people may only get them when things are moving fast but still, people are getting them.
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BANANA.MAN
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AuroraBorealis88 said: It happens with everything to some extent 
Even just me moving my hands or fingers slowly in front of my face shows them. Isn't the way a helicopter propeller looks essentially just an illusion caused by tracers? I know many people may only get them when things are moving fast but still, people are getting them.
But im asking if you get tracers when you take psychedelics. People commonly report that so its obviously not the same thing or they wouldnt mention it. Do you get tracers that are not exactly like anything you see sober or its the thing you see sober but significantly more often and on slower moving things.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (01/08/17 10:38 AM)
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BANANA.MAN said: I get a glow of light around the edges of things sometimes. That doesnt seem to be what people mean though.
I have some syrian rue that been sitting around for a while. Im going to try it with my friend then combine it with mushrooms if it goes ok.
Yeah 3 to 4 grams is the common dosage, 3 grams might not be enough to cause much trailing though, i can't remember. I usually use 4 grams but 4 grams can cause nausea/vomiting. And the more the Rue is taken, the more noticeable the trailing becomes, especially since the Harmalas have a reverse tolerance so it gets stronger the more it's consumed, eventually allowing you to handle strong/heavy Harmala dosages with ease and hardly any side-effects.
But yeah Rue with Shrooms is awesome!
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BANANA.MAN
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ChemicalSpark said: If I slowly wave my hand around in front of me, the tracers are like waving a glow stick around in the dark. And that's when I'm sober...
Thanks LSD
So you got them after LSD?
If you get them when you are sober because of the drug then please specify because if you got them your whole life then it clearly doesnt count as tracers when you are tripping for this pole.
I think everyone gets them if they move their hand infront of their face.
Im talking about an effect specific to psychedelics that people talk about. Or the same effect as when you are sober but more intense.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (01/08/17 10:43 AM)
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AuroraBorealis88 said: It happens with everything to some extent 
Even just me moving my hands or fingers slowly in front of my face shows them. Isn't the way a helicopter propeller looks essentially just an illusion caused by tracers? I know many people may only get them when things are moving fast but still, people are getting them.
But in asking if you get tracers when you take psychedelics. People commonly report that so its obviously not the same thing or they wouldnt mention it. Do you get tracers that are not exactly like anything you see sober or its the thing you see sober but significantly more often and on slower moving things.
But is that really true though? Is it really "not the same"? Or are these people just fucked up on drugs and don't know the difference? Cause you have to think to yourself about the user and how not used to the state they may be which may cause them to overblow little things like tracers and act like they've never seen them before. Psychedelics can often make us see what we've been ignoring.
Maybe people only talk about them while tripping because they're more intense in that state and that's simply it? Maybe it's there while sober but not intense enough to be deemed as notable. Plus maybe it's just the trip itself making the tracers seem qualitatively different which is why you notice them, maybe the tracers are different on shrooms than they are on acid.. I also get that aura thing like you describe like colors glowing or radiating around objects so maybe it's a combination of that and that plus a tracer that gets people to notice. I mean at the end of the day the devil's in the details. I'm sure people get them while sober it's just that they really suck at noticing it or analyzing it so when they finally take psychedelics not only will it intensify everyday little visual stuff like tracers for them (stuff that they already have) but it will also enhance their analytical abilities as well as give them personal bias suppression so they may be more able to become aware of things they or their ego have been ignoring or have been conditioned not to see.
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Sabnock said: Yeah 3 to 4 grams is the common dosage, 3 grams might not be enough to cause much trailing though, i can't remember. I usually use 4 grams but 4 grams can cause nausea/vomiting. And the more the Rue is taken, the more noticeable the trailing becomes, especially since the Harmalas have a reverse tolerance so it gets stronger the more it's consumed, eventually allowing you to handle strong/heavy Harmala dosages with ease and hardly any side-effects.
But yeah Rue with Shrooms is awesome!
I've heard Ibogaine gives more intense tracers than any psychedelic.
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But is that really true though? Is it really "not the same"? Or are these people just fucked up on drugs and don't know the difference?
Thats what im trying to find out so vote that you dont get them if its the same when you are sober.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (01/08/17 10:46 AM)
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But wouldn't that'd be like asking if I get music appreciation while tripping and then deeming it as irrelevant because I can appreciate music while sober as well?
Just because it happens while sober too (obviously in a qualitatively different way) why does it then not change under the context of tripping? Just because they occur in both states doesn't mean psychedelics don't have some effect on them. It isn't so black and white.
Edited by AuroraBorealis88 (01/08/17 10:48 AM)
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BANANA.MAN
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Increased music appretiaion is totally different.
It acctually feels way different than when you are sober. For example i was on a low dose of LSA and i wasnt feeling too happy and when my buddy was pissing i sung a song and i instantly got that feeling i get from shrooms when i listen to music and it made me happy instantly. When he came back and i stopped i was scared again. I wasnt getting any visuals but i got that exact feeling as i get from mushrooms.
If tracers arw just normal tracers then they clearly arent as distinguishable as music appreteation because i didnt notice them but i get intense, undeniable effects from music while tripping even if i am not tripling hard like the LSA.
thats just my experience though.
Anyway thats not the point. Im truing to find out with a pole if psyches produce more or different tracers so if they are exactlt the same and you vote no then its not a lie. Even if it was a lie its a strategy to get some information from people. How else would i find out?
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BANANA.MAN said: If tracers arw just normal tracers then they clearly arent as distinguishable as music appreteation because i didnt notice them but i get intense, undeniable effects from music while tripping even if i am not tripling hard like the LSA.
Just because you get music appreciation more intensely than tracers really doesn't mean anything because I assume that's the case for everyone else. We probably don't pay attention to tracers while tripping because we're the kind of people that notice them even when sober it's just that maybe the average retard doesn't. Again people who are unfamiliar with the mind state will often overblow everyday things like tracers even though they may see them everyday. Personal bias suppression. Psychedelics make you look at things out of context sometimes as if being seen for the first time ever.
Also no one's saying they're normal as the tracers we get while sober. It varies too much.
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Anyway thats not the point. Im truing to find out with a pole if psyches produce more or different tracers so if they are exactlt the same and you vote no then its not a lie.
I don't think anything is "exactly the same" while tripping though. Everything is essentially different than it was while sober.
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